Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII
“Your people skills need some work (and after this you should know it). “
I was annoying you and your friends quite on purpose - because each of you, in turn, struck out on arguments that bore no relation that was posted to you (what, did I catch you on bridge night? - wait - with you guys it HAS to be bingo night)
I must add that you guys have the lamest gang on FR.
“It was all you as far as failure... “
Yes, I failed to drill through each one of your thick skulls using tools of logic and observations of the obvious.
“I don’t believe debate is the point. I believe that ego trip is.”
Debate WAS the point. It became sport much later.....
“Whaddaya say? Or do you always need to have the last word?
My supposition is that you just can’t shut up...
Prove me wrong. Go ahead. “
No, by all means, you can have the last word.
“The early fathers of our country did not believe that the federal government had any religious role. Jefferson declared days of prayer and fasting as governor of Virginia but resisted doing so as President. He did not believe that was a Presidents job. That all the Founders were God-fearing men is a given. That few in DC today even know who God is is also a given. What’s there to discuss?”
You actually articulated a cogent thought that bears some relation to actual history! Congratulations.
When Jefferson was Governor of Virginia he passed the “religious freedom act” - previous to that the Church of England was the official religion in Virginia.
Back then, religion had political influence (It took two tries to pass it) - today, not so much.
Which was my point that got you and your buddies all excited - as you took it as a treatise against Christianity, which it was not. It was a statement of observational fact - when “gay marriage” can be declared a “constitutional right” by a federal judge, it means that Christianity, indeed religion in general, has no practical influence, politically, at the federal level - hence my view that a “revival of limited government” must occur before a “Christian revival” can occur.
So I accept your apology on behalf of you and your friends.
Or are you going to try and wiggle your way out of it again?
I have never said that I was for any laws. Quote me with post numbers or go away.
You aren't as smart as you think you are. That was not what our debate was about.
Bye.
Which puts you in direct opposition to the Founders. I agree with them, not you.
"(T)he foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained..." George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789
"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God? Thomas Jefferson
“Which puts you in direct opposition to the Founders. I agree with them, not you.”
No it doesn’t. They had no idea how big government would get, and how it would twist the constitution to support things that were obvious in their day - things like marriage being reserved between a man and a woman.
Believe it or not, I do see your point. You can’t generally go wrong standing with our founding fathers, but I think they would agree with me that our government has gone so far afield - directly opposing the original constitutional intent - that they would see that reeling that back to sanity was necessary as the first step.
Power must be wrested from tyrants, it will not be surrendered peaceably. While we may indeed have freedom of religion with those freedoms originating from God - our present government does not recognize that fact - just like the King in revolutionary times.
The exercise of God given freedoms necessarily required defeat of the tyrant in revolutionary times. It requires no less now.
“You aren’t as smart as you think you are. That was not what our debate was about. “
And I know that you and your clueless cabal on this thread are not as dumb as you seem. You debated agreement amongst yourselves, not with me (except the last couple of posts - refreshing!) but I’m sure you knew exactly what I was saying - you were just blinded by animus to admit it. That’s okay.
Don’t be hatin’, bro.
Good day to you.
No, by all means, you can have the last word.
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Thanks for proving me right. You just can't shut up.
Oh --OK...
If that was your intent -wow, you were ineffective; however, it was all my fault --I was just too moronic and brain dead to be annoyed -your skillfully threaded communicative interplay went right over my small head.
So long for now -I must make use of the short bus service and head into the primitive village center to pick up a few more decks of cards for group, my extra absorbent depends, and my mega dosage lithium prescription.
I can see I am no match for you and your superior self image just yet. I will have to study hard all manner of subjects if ever I hope to debate you again...
Thanks for that DBeers, my dosage just went up X4 with this thread because of all the trolls that occupied it. See you at the usual place for cards this evening.
Don't forget our Domino game on Wednesday, and bowling Friday.
You are right, Carolyn. No one can involve himself in every issue, not even Glenn. It’s Ann Coulter who absolutely disgusts me, as she readies herslf for a speech before the GOProud convention. *Barf* Bob
Is Ann herself a closet gay? You wonder why this bizarre issue would be of such importance to her. BTW, Rush ripped Vaughn and Ted Olsen apart last week over their participation in this monstrosity of a ruling. Bob
“Thanks for proving me right. You just can’t shut up.”
Well, you can’t be wrong about everything all the time.
But I observe that you don’t have even the slightest hint of a sense of humor.
“however, it was all my fault “
See, you are starting to master the art of self-deprecating humor. Good job. Of course, you seem to have more material than most from which to work.......
Of all of your friends on this thread though, you’ve got the best sense of humor.
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