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hence my view that a “revival of limited government” must occur before a “Christian revival” can occur

Which puts you in direct opposition to the Founders. I agree with them, not you.

"(T)he foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained..." George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams

"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God? Thomas Jefferson

847 posted on 08/17/2010 4:50:07 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Which puts you in direct opposition to the Founders. I agree with them, not you.”

No it doesn’t. They had no idea how big government would get, and how it would twist the constitution to support things that were obvious in their day - things like marriage being reserved between a man and a woman.

Believe it or not, I do see your point. You can’t generally go wrong standing with our founding fathers, but I think they would agree with me that our government has gone so far afield - directly opposing the original constitutional intent - that they would see that reeling that back to sanity was necessary as the first step.

Power must be wrested from tyrants, it will not be surrendered peaceably. While we may indeed have freedom of religion with those freedoms originating from God - our present government does not recognize that fact - just like the King in revolutionary times.

The exercise of God given freedoms necessarily required defeat of the tyrant in revolutionary times. It requires no less now.


848 posted on 08/17/2010 5:47:47 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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