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First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?
Life Site News ^ | NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 | Commentary by John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII

Friday August 13, 2010


First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?

Commentary by John-Henry Westen

NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Appearing on The O’Reilly Factor yesterday, famed conservative Fox News host Glenn Beck may have shocked many Americans by noting that he was not very concerned about homosexual 'marriage.'

O’Reilly asked Beck, “Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country in any way?” Beck replied, “No, I don't,” adding sarcastically, “Will the gays come and get us?” 

After being pressed again on the question, Beck said, “I believe -- I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?”  Showing his own surprise, O’Reilly remarked, “Okay, so you don't. That's interesting. Because I don't think a lot of people understand that about you.”

The Glenn Beck revelation comes on the heels of two other startling announcements by conservative celebrity pundits in the last couple of weeks.  Earlier this week it was announced that conservative pundit Ann Coulter would headline a fundraiser for the homosexual activist group within the Republican Party, GOProud.  And on July 29, although his position had been revealed before, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh again came out in favor of homosexual civil unions, while being opposed to same-sex ‘marriage.’

To be fair, it must be pointed out that Beck said he was looking at the ‘big picture’ and promoting faith, the answer to all such things.  Moreover, he added that he was okay with gay ‘marriage’ with a caveat.  “As long as we are not going down the road of Canada, where it now is a problem for churches to have free speech. If they can still say, hey, we oppose it,” he said.

But even to have suggested, as strongly as he did, that he was not opposed to gay ‘marriage’ is detrimental and demonstrates a ‘small picture’ approach.

Beck seems like a good guy. He’s thoughtful.  He’s right on many matters in the culture war.  For instance, when O’Reilly followed up and asked if Beck thought abortion threatened the United States, Beck replied dramatically in the affirmative.  “Abortion is killing, it’s killing, you’re killing someone,” he said.

So I thought it’d be worth it to calmly and persuasively share concerns with Beck on his approach.  He may not read my email, but I’m sure if enough pro-family folks were to get the message to him, he’d reconsider his outlook.

Here’s Beck’s email:

And here’s the gist of what I wrote:

Laws teach people what is right and wrong and thus homosexual acts will implicitly be given the stamp of approval where such legal recognition is granted.  The young will be given the false impression that this behavior is safe and acceptable, or even good.

Society has a duty to legally recognize and support married couples since they are, through procreation, the source for the continuation of human life and thus society itself.  Homosexual couples cannot properly procreate and thus have no such claim to societal recognition.

The question is not so much about marriage, but about homosexual acts.  The acts are harmful to the individuals who engage in them. They are harmful physically, emotionally and spiritually. 

With regard to persons engaged in such behavior or identifying with it, there must never be unjust discrimination.  All gay bashing, name-calling and the like should be condemned.  However, there must be discrimination on this front, a just discrimination, to preserve societal recognition for marriage between one man and one woman. 

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To: plinyelder
"You ‘cannot’ separate the fact that conservative thinking, conservative values have strong ties to Christian teachings!"

Very good point!

21 posted on 08/14/2010 4:41:19 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: GonzoII
What’s Happening?

Culture warriors are getting their asses kicked by the political process, and as a result we're losing the country.

That's it in a nutshell.

Now, to anticipate all the replies: America needs a Christian revival, or she will perish. I would rather be governed by a Congress and a Judiciary composed of Human Life International and The Family Research Council than by the current Parliament of Whores.

But since our leaders are selected by universal franchise voting (and our judges are chosen by them), and since the population is now ruled by its crotch rather than by its heart, looking to the political process for revival is foolishness, and leads to misallocation of resources.

22 posted on 08/14/2010 4:42:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (If the answer is "Republican", it must be a stupid question.)
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To: GonzoII

Ratings


23 posted on 08/14/2010 4:43:23 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: onyx

Last time I checked the Constitution didn’t guarantee a marriage license. But the full faith and credit clause may play hob with that, so...Oy. What a mess. I bet the Founders are spinning.


24 posted on 08/14/2010 4:44:15 AM PDT by mewzilla (Still voteless in NY-29. Over 400 roll call votes missed and counting...)
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To: GonzoII
I heard this and it bothered my husband and I too.

There are some on FR who defend Rush & Ann as 'no big thing' in regards to their stance on gays.

I was quite surprised Beck would have this attitude.

Disturbing....for all three.

25 posted on 08/14/2010 4:45:42 AM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: GonzoII

Rush is not a moralist. I don’t understand Coulter and Beck


26 posted on 08/14/2010 4:45:48 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: GonzoII

Looks like the gay mafia has gotten to them...(city people anyway)


27 posted on 08/14/2010 4:46:47 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: GonzoII
I can't figure these people out. First they say they're for “Faith, Hope & Charity”. Particularly, they embrace “Faith” and align themselves with the “Framers” who also embraced “Faith” and a belief in decency and morality. Now, they say homosexuality is OK. I just have to shake my head and wonder what planet these people were born. Just because one of the “famous framers” said “if it don't try to kill me or pick my pocket” it doesn't make it “Gospel”. You can't take the Gospel and make a buffet out of it, Accepting and rejecting what ever “pleases” you. Remember what our Lord said, “I'd rather that one was hot or cold. If one is luke warm I'll spew you out of my mouth”. Either you follow the Gospel and EVERYTHING that it stands for or one might as well hop the fence and take the road to perdition along with Satan and the rest of the liberal progressives.
28 posted on 08/14/2010 4:47:38 AM PDT by Jim Shoe
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To: nonliberal

The gay lifestyle is one of loose morals. Society does not give special rights to a group based on immoral behavior and survive.


29 posted on 08/14/2010 4:50:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: nonliberal

Yup.

Genesis 19
1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.”
“No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”

3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

9 “Get out of our way,” they replied. And they said, “This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.

10 But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11 Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door.

12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”


30 posted on 08/14/2010 4:50:46 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: nonliberal

***Will there be gay gangs doing drive by spankings?***

No...it will be part of the school curricula - OH WAIT!!

It is already.

Consider that a nation founded on Judeo-Christian tenets to include heterosexual monogamy, has created the most advanced society on the face of the Earth in a short span of 200 years. Now, watch its destruction in 20 years.


31 posted on 08/14/2010 4:50:53 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: GonzoII
Beck said, “I believe -- I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?”

So if I use the word "N_gg_r" in front of Glen, he'll be cool with it. After all, it neither breaks his leg nor picks his pocket. Who would have thought? Oh well, I guess you learn something new every day.

32 posted on 08/14/2010 4:50:56 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope for survival.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
O'Reilly asked Beck, "Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country in any way?" Beck replied, "No, I don't," adding sarcastically, "Will the gays come and get us?" ... "I believe -- I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?" ...Earlier this week it was announced that conservative pundit Ann Coulter would headline a fundraiser for the homosexual activist group within the Republican Party, GOProud. And on July 29, although his position had been revealed before, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh again came out in favor of homosexual civil unions, while being opposed to same-sex 'marriage.' To be fair, it must be pointed out that Beck said he was looking at the 'big picture' and promoting faith, the answer to all such things. Moreover, he added that he was okay with gay 'marriage' with a caveat. "As long as we are not going down the road of Canada, where it now is a problem for churches to have free speech. If they can still say, hey, we oppose it," he said.

33 posted on 08/14/2010 4:51:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: GonzoII

Based upon casual observation I would say conservatives who are not anti gay marriage believe homosexuals were born that way. Anti gay marriage conservatives believe homosexuals choose the queer lifestyle.


34 posted on 08/14/2010 4:51:14 AM PDT by csmusaret (A government that can dictate how much water flows into a toilet is a powerful government indeed.)
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To: Jim Shoe
Just because one of the “famous framers” said “if it don't try to kill me or pick my pocket” it doesn't make it “Gospel”.

Jefferson was not referring to homosexuality. He wanted sodomites castrated. George Washington threw them out of his Army. There have been sodomy laws in the US up until the 1970's when states started striking them down.

35 posted on 08/14/2010 4:53:37 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ikka

C.S. Lewis’ wisdom and way with words has never ceased to amaze me.


36 posted on 08/14/2010 4:54:13 AM PDT by FourPeas (God Save America)
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To: TalBlack
I suspect that Glen is simply not finished with his “reeducation” process. He admits to having had a turning point about two years ago, resulting in the realization that much of what he had been taught simply wasn't true. Let's hope that as his process of self education proceeds he will gain a knowledge of truths that elude him today. Undoing decades of bad teaching takes time.
37 posted on 08/14/2010 4:55:37 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker
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To: GonzoII

You get what you will tolerate.


38 posted on 08/14/2010 4:56:14 AM PDT by Boucheau
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To: sodpoodle

Actually, Glenn, they will come after (your) minister (maybe) for preaching that homosexuality is an abomination, based on what the Bible says.

So, yes, in a sense, they will come after you.


39 posted on 08/14/2010 4:57:42 AM PDT by Reagan69 (Let me know when those health insurance premiums go down.)
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To: GonzoII

Glenn, Rush and Ann are all syndicated in various different markets. Any bets those involved in their business success are homosexual? Any bets they’ve let their personal views be known in more ways than one to their clients?


40 posted on 08/14/2010 4:58:38 AM PDT by mo
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