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Novelist Anne Rice says she's leaving Christianity (Uncoverts after converting)
Yahoo News ^ | 07/30/2010 | Hillel Itale

Posted on 07/30/2010 8:37:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

NEW YORK – Anne Rice has had a religious conversion: She's no longer a Christian.

"In the name of Christ, I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control," the author wrote Wednesday on her Facebook page. "In the name of ... Christ, I quit Christianity and being Christian. Amen."

Rice, 68, is best known for "Interview With a Vampire" and other gothic novels. Raised as a Catholic, she had rejected the church early in her life but renewed her faith in recent years and in 2008 released the memoir "Called Out of Darkness: A Spiritual Confession."

In a telephone interview Thursday, Rice said she had been having doubts for the past two to three years. She was troubled by the child abuse scandals in the church, and the church's defensive reaction, and by the ex-communication of Sister Margaret McBride, a nun and hospital administrator who had approved an abortion for a woman whose life was in danger.

"I believed for a long time that the differences, the quarrels among Christians didn't matter a lot for the individual, that you live your life and stay out of it. But then I began to realize that it wasn't an easy thing to do," said Rice, speaking from her home near Palm Springs, Calif. "I came to the conclusion that if I didn't make this declaration, I was going to lose my mind."

Rice said she is a Democrat who supports the health care legislation signed into law by President Barack Obama and believes gay marriage inevitably will be permitted throughout the country. Although no longer part of any denomination, she remains a believer and continues to read theology and post Biblical passages on her Facebook page.

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To: bronxville
Her son is gay which led to search for justifications to leave the Church.

Quite the shame. How many have shipwrecked their souls by leaving the strait and narrow way, by trying to go by the broad and wide path?
We mistake love for 'tolerance' and winning someone's short-term approval - rather than seeking to please God.
She should ask herself that if her son was an heroin addict would she consider it to be 'un-loving' for her to pray for him to leave this affliction, and to do all that she could to convince him to leave it? Probably not - but homosexuality, also a sinful affliction and addictive disorder, gets a wink and a nod from today's World.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4
But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

61 posted on 07/30/2010 9:52:32 AM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: SeekAndFind

She didn’t have to leave Christianity. She could just join one of the Liberal divisons of the Protestant church who share her beliefs.


62 posted on 07/30/2010 9:56:13 AM PDT by Retired Chemist
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To: SeekAndFind

Matt 12:45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other SPIRITS more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.


63 posted on 07/30/2010 9:59:20 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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To: barbarianbabs

a. rice is so overrated

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Yes she is, even within the genre. Her erotic novels are antidotes for insomnia as well. One would expect better from a New Orleanian, but Storeyville has been gone for a long time.

I feel bad for her though. Losing her daughter cost her a noticeable portion of her sanity, and I can think of no loss more painful.


64 posted on 07/30/2010 9:59:55 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Among the most tragic scriptural passages.


65 posted on 07/30/2010 10:00:53 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: a fool in paradise

I wonder when Barack Obama will come clean about not being a Christian as well.

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From the Capitol Mosque or at sentencing.


66 posted on 07/30/2010 10:02:58 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: PLD

Strange I never thought she was a Christian..since she has written so many gloomy books I thought she was already with the dark side..

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I think the term cultural Catholic fits, as it does a great many in New Orleans, even some who are nominally protestant or jewish.

Her husband thought that the death of their daughter at age six left her broken. Passages and characters in her writings certainly seem to confirm that.


67 posted on 07/30/2010 10:16:08 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: TopQuark
The praise goes to the "greatest generation" that managed to raise the most egotistic, anti-American, and best confused children.

You are correct but the schools were infiltrated by Progressives who undermined the philosophy and beliefs of the parents and taught cultural Marxism. The parents were just too trusting of the schools and the politicians for the most part. They thought the movies were harmless to values. They believed the MSM which was lying to them and full of agitprop, and they did not trust their own ideas but allowed Ann Landers to be their voice.

The infiltration by Marxists in all areas which created policy, curicula, and directed the thinking of the whole nation intentionally transformed a generation into narcisstic, atheist socialists.

68 posted on 07/30/2010 10:16:22 AM PDT by savagesusie
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To: wardaddy

Rice is a Christian name....what did she convert from to begin with?

odd

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Born Howard Allen O’Brien. She was married to Stan Rice until his death a few years ago.

Clearly, it is a bad onmen to name daughters “Howard”, “Stanley” or things like that. Boys named “Sue” perhaps, but give the daughters a decent start.


69 posted on 07/30/2010 10:27:50 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die. - Samuel Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

In other words....No one is paying any attetnion to me so I must throw a temper tantrum. Look at MEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!


70 posted on 07/30/2010 10:56:18 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: SeekAndFind
Another quitter who failed to remake God in her own image and was disappointed that other Christians were just the usual pain-in-the-@ss people and not a mystical, magical happy-folk, holding hands and singing kum-by-ya.

Happens a lot. Actually studying her Bible might have helped.

71 posted on 07/30/2010 11:03:37 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: Truth is a Weapon

Grace gives us what we do not deserve and mercy keeps us from what we do deserve. This Christ we worship is beyond all words. Thank you, Jesus!


72 posted on 07/30/2010 11:16:58 AM PDT by carton253 (Ask me about The Stainless Banner - a free e-zine dedicated to the armies of the Confederacy.)
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To: savagesusie
"You are correct but the schools were infiltrated by Progressives"

Why use "but" here, as if there were any contradiction. All evil begins with the indifference of the otherwise good people. Where were the patriots to allow an initially small number of Progressives to infiltrate?

You picture, I am afraid, is also too simplistic. The "progressive" movement began at the end of 1800s. Marx had published his Das Capital just a couple of decades earlier, and socialism was in the air, seducing many. The patriots, the proponents of freedom did not act firmly enough and allowed the ignorant to get used to those seductive ideas. We have elected the "progressive" Wilson long before out schools were infiltrated. We have elected an outright socialist and dictator FDR and reelected him multiple times.

It seems to me that this march of the left is over a century old, and we have nobody to blame but ourselves. People who don't care how their children are raised get the children and country they deserve.

73 posted on 07/30/2010 11:19:44 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Sans-Culotte
"It is not merely how she was brought up. Even church-going Christians are ignorant of basic doctrine."

Instilling the understanding of the difference between the substance and merely going through the motions is a part of bringing up a child, isn't it?

74 posted on 07/30/2010 11:23:46 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: SeekAndFind

So sad. Hopefully she will return after being treated badly by the Devil.


75 posted on 07/30/2010 11:36:47 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: TopQuark

I do agree with you that the transformation started originally with the post-modern German philosophers whose influx into Columbia U. and Harvard in the 1880’s was the start of the paradigm shift from a dominant Christian philosophy in the US to the atheist-relativism that now is so obvious by the election of zero and the corruption in Congress. (Documented by Bloom in “The Closing of the American Mind.”

1880’s was the start of the infiltration which consisted of the elites in our Universities from Frankfurt, Germany. With their “comrades” in positions of power which encompassed the publishing companies and media, books by their darlings, like Carl Becker and Charles Beard, etc. were published in 1913 and glorified, of course, and put into curricula (Founders were evil white oppressors who only wanted wealth and power).

This way of thinking was alien to most people but the gradual indoctrination started seriously with the Progressive John Dewey who had enormous influence in American education. Facts were twisted and revisionism started earnestly and put into children’s heads.
http://www.ilt.columbia.edu/publications/Projects/digitexts/dewey/d_e/chapter02.html

My point is that the ideas of the Progressives were seductive and the average, hardworking people were raised to trust people and believe in what they say. That a handshake meant the world to a man.

I am a very attentive parent and when good people were explaining their curricula in the 70’s, I could not figure out why it was evil at that time. It sounded so good but I was bothered by the terms like “Situational Ethics” “Values Clarification”, Multiculteralism and Tolerance. They sounded so Christian. Yet, like social Darwinism, it destroys revelation and Christianity by invalidating Moral Absolutes.

The teachers promoting the curricula were good people also and loved the children. The curricula was designed by the likes of people like Ayers and Dewey so the “conditioning” (Skinner) started to lull adults into a false sense of security and unless you had the time to do research (which they could NOT very easily do because of no internet, nor did they have the time) because the media controlled the “right way to think” and had a monopoly on it. They filtered all the information just like Hitler did in the 1930’s.

“Witness” by Chambers explains this “fight” for the minds of people in 1950’s. Chambers explained it as a battle between Man and God. “....that man without God is just what Communism said he was: the most intelligent of the animals, that man without God is a beast, never more beastly than when he is most intelligent about his beastliness.”


76 posted on 07/30/2010 12:48:34 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: TopQuark
Really was not trying to start an argument. She may have come from an atheist family. Whether or not she is/was a Christian is not based strictly on her upbringing. Christ is there for anyone, regardless of age. Many people have been brought up in religious households and still rejected religion later on. Remember famous atheist Madlyn Murray O'Hair's son became a Christian after years of negative indoctrination. Christopher Hitchens' brother is a Christian while Christopher hates religion. The great Swedish film director Ingmar Bergman was son of a minister yet he rejected and did not believe in God.

If they did not have a proper upbringing as children, that's water under the bridge. And even if they did, they may still reject Christ.

The point I was making is that people can join a church and think of themselves as Christians. But they are not taught any doctrine by the church while they are in it, and so many leave. I do not think Ann Rice knew any important doctrine at all, and if she had, she would not have joined a church. She was probably one of those Bishop Spong type of Christians, who think Christianity is only about loving everything about everybody.

77 posted on 07/30/2010 1:23:11 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: TopQuark
This was written by Dewey in 1916 and he was one of the chief designers of our educational system....His understanding of psychology is obvious and most people at that time had little knowledge in that area of science:

"We never educate directly, but indirectly by means of the environment. Whether we permit chance environments to do the work, or whether we design environments for the purpose makes a great difference. And any environment is a chance environment so far as its educative influence is concerned unless it has been deliberately regulated with reference to its educative effect. An intelligent home differs from an unintelligent one chiefly in that the habits of life and intercourse which prevail are chosen, or at least colored, by the thought of their bearing upon the development of children. But schools remain, of course, the typical instance of environments framed with express reference to influencing the mental and moral disposition of their members."

(My emphasis added).

78 posted on 07/30/2010 1:43:14 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie
The thought expressed in italics is not a new one. There is nothing subversive in emphasizing morality in the schools. The issue is whose morality is being emphasized.

Before the progressives we emphasized patriotism, respect for the Constitution, and the exceptionalism of this great country. Children prayed in the schools and pledge allegiance. The progressives gradually substituted that agenda. But the did so only because patriots, resting on the laurals, left moral vacuum to be filled by the Left.

79 posted on 07/30/2010 4:57:57 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Sans-Culotte

Thank you for your detailed clarification. I now understand your point better and completely agree with you.


80 posted on 07/30/2010 5:00:49 PM PDT by TopQuark
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