Posted on 06/12/2010 9:51:14 AM PDT by Talisker
I've found the slander and contempt expressed on Free Republic towards Abby Sunderland and her parents quite interesting. Of course, we're all supposed to believe that every post on FR is independently made, but these hate posts have been too interlocked in similiarly bizarre content for me to believe that.
Basically the hateful screeds boil down to Abby being a child instead of a young woman, unable to understand the danger of her trip, put at risk by fame seeking parents, to do something with no socially approved redeeming value, which ended in abject failure due to Abby's incompetence, and for which CPS should be called in to have Abby pulled from the family for re-education, while the parents are jailed, fined, and billed for the rescue efforts.
In short, an absolutely damning, completely collectivist viewpoint with zero acknowledgement of independent rights, which is based solely on collectivist evaluation, collectivist judgment, and collectivist punishment - fronted as family values and child protection.
Oh yeah, and also a complete and utter lie.
For there were many expert sailors as advisors behind this trip, all of whom signed off on both Abby's abilities, her equipment and her trip plan. And there was never any hint of her family not being willing to pay for any part of the rescue efforts. Entire ships have been destroyed through rogue waves, but there's no acknowledgement of that universal danger. And Abby performed beautifully as a sailor and as an adult, through storms, equipment failures, and difficulties across thousands of miles of sailing, and a crisis situation which would have had all of these naysayers pissing their pants.
But pants pissing is the point here - the very big point. Because Abby threatens the millions of families who base their concept of child rearing on the idea that childhood, literally, never ends. That children must be driven everywhere and monitored constantly, even as teenagers. That they need psych meds for growing pains. That responsibility is an injustice towards them, because they can't be allowed to develop any personal power that is not first approved by the mommy educational collective.
So pants pissing has become noble. It has become the sign of respect towards the community, of good parenting, and of normal childhood - the childhood that never ends. In fact, pants-pissing has become the litmus test of social approval itself, because it enables the protection of neurotic helicopter parents who see bogeymen under every bush so that they can justify an obsession about their children's safety that allows THEM to never grow up.
And guess which political party they ALL belong to, and HOPE to never CHANGE from?
So to them, now - now - "we" have this tiny little thumb-sucking girl child, only 16 years old and so barely out of diapers, being thrown into the ocean by greedy parents, straight into a hurricane to drown for their greed, with absolutely no approval from any group of safety parent educators or state approved parental control boards!
Do you realize what this could do to the carefully created psychological voting blocks of the pants pissers? Especially when that so-called "mom" from Alaska with the big family that hunts and fishes and camps and snow machines is running around actually threatening to run for high office?
Do you see the connection here? If Abby is praised and acknowledged for her courage and maturity, and for living life instead of just conforming to it, and especially - especially - for her individuality, her acceptance of personal risk and responsibility without the approval of the collective, people might start to remember what it means to be an American again! They might start to remember freedom, and risk for the sake of living life to the fullest, and learning through doing, and the value of learning courage in the face of difficulty, and they might start to discover their self-respect again, and build character.
And how would that effect the pants-pissing moms who scuttle through life at the end of the snapping fingers of feminist, communist, education-collective politicians? How would that effect their views of the locked-down, cop-patrolled, drug-infected, psych-medicated, fenced prison hellholes of morale-crushing subservience called public schools? How would that effect the ability of these politicians to convince these collectively-approved, latte-sucking "moms" to continue to destroy their children - by never letting them grow up - in the name of "safety"?
And above all, how would that effect the votes?
No, no, no, no, no. Call out the shills, invade the Net, and even get on Free Republic and in the name of God, parenting, sin, ego, vanity, stupidity and every other communist-studied conservative trigger-word, invoke cowardice in the name of responsibility, rip away adulthood with the insult of enforced childhood, hammer on cost without mentioning no resistance to payment, and above all sneer at parenting that is based of building courage and trust and adventure as an absolutely unforgivable violation of the sacred order of socially approved pants-pissing.
And demand wet pants! Wet pants for social justice! Wet pants for lack of guilt! And especially, wet pants for votes!
After all, it's for the children.
P.S. Congratulations to Abby and her family - you all did great. Abby sailed with competence, courage and joy, and inspired millions of people. If America is to have a future in freedom, she and people like her are the ones who will make it happen. But above all, she and her family made selfish cowards and conniving hypocrites everywhere publicly wet themselves, and for that America is truly grateful.
He is right. The nanny State is alive and well at Free Republic. A bunch of sour puss, meddlesome, feckless weak-kneed, hand wringing sad pussed fearfull little chicken littles.
What a nasty, hate-filled, sarcastic post. That girl must really be a threat to you. You say that sailing alone 12,000 miles - halfway around the world — is not an achievement. So be it. We disagree on that issue. But why the vitriol? I still say that jealousy (envy) is behind many of these negative posts.
I dont let my 18 or 20 year old take my boat out alone...
Congratulations on your and your families definitions of safety.
Don’t demand that everybody else follow your definition of prudence.
Why in the world would you think that what is right for you must be demanded of everybody else?
“Basically the hateful screeds boil down to Abby being a child instead of a young woman, unable to understand the danger of her trip, put at risk by fame seeking parents, to do something with no socially approved redeeming value, which ended in abject failure due to Abby’s incompetence, and for which CPS should be called in to have Abby pulled from the family for re-education, while the parents are jailed, fined, and billed for the rescue efforts. “
Sound about right to me...
Who cares if she gets book deals, stories and interviews. Heck, I’d love to see an interview of this adventure. What is wrong with you people on this site? This young woman very clearly has been raised outside the box. Kudos to her and her parents! I could care less if they make millions. That is clearly not what this is about.
Why can’t you just let that family do what they want to do? Why must you impose your vision of normal on them? What gives you the right to meddle in their decisions?
Someone’s tin foil hat needs to be replaced.
>> so you would be fine with this if the rescue were privately funded?
Basically, yeah, I guess I would. I would privately question the wisdom of Abby and, moreso, her parents for embarking on the trip, and if I were in a role to advise them I’d advise them against it. I think it’s a BAD idea.
But if THEY bear the entire risk for their own adventure, and THEY fund the entire support effort and the rescue should something go wrong, then it’s none of my business, regardless of what I think about the wisdom of it.
Praise the Lord!
Fact is yes she did, and so do a lot of folks. We hear of them every day. Her age and beauty tweaked this.
But I’m glad she’s safe and I for one, think she should push her own limits. Her parents evidently thought so too.
Meanwhile all other 16 year old kids are busy shopping, running up credit cards or whatever....
Your kidding right Bob?
Are you really so meddlesome and small that you would demand jail time for the family? So much for “Free” Republic.
wow. that’s some post you got there. back away from the keyboard and take a breath. You could not be more clueless.
Well done.
Absolutely.
For name, fame and glory.
Your great, great Aunt did something useful.
That’s the difference.
Are you truly that much of an idiot?
Or....do you just play one on FreeRepublic?
Best post of the day.
You really don’t get it, do you?
While I don’t think it wise, I really don’t give a rat’s a$$ what they do. Provided THEY furnish ALL the resources to do it.
Just like I don’t mind if you scrape together every cent you can borrow to buy a million dollar house, because you think tomorrow it’ll be worth two million. I’ll think you’re nuts, but that’s your deal. PROVIDED you don’t come running to me (as a taxpayer) to bail your sorry ass out when it becomes obvious that you got in way over your head.
That’s just how I feel about Miss Adventure here.
The original rant attributed all sorts of evil motives to FReepers who don’t want to bail out pseudo-adventurers, like we’re some kind of candy-ass socialists. But it misses the point. DO what you want! Just bear the WHOLE RESPONSIBILITY for what you do! That to me is a conservative attitude. This idea that we’re all supposed to help out the selfish egos that attack stuff like sailing around the world when you’re a kid strikes me as the ultimate Libtard attitude.
On the other hand are those who believe that minor children ought to have the right to express their sexuality by enjoying unrestricted sexual freedom. Is it nanny-statism to deny them that? I've no doubt it would be if we were dealing with adults. But minors require a certain degree of protection from society, including protections against being exploited by adults, or putting themselves (or being suffered to put themselves) into positions which may be harmful to those of their limited experience. I know there's a lot of debate as to what might constitute such positions, but if getting into a small boat and trying to sail unaccompanied around the world isn't one of them, then literally nothing is, and we might as well lower the age of majority to fourteen, or whatever we can agree upon. Of course at that point some valiant thirteen-year-old will come along pushing the envelope, and we'll be right back where we started.
As long as her parents pay for the cost of recovering/rescuing their daughter, it’s all fine with me. Just don’t charge taxpayers for saving this kid when she gets in trouble.
Just pathetic --- and the French captain of the fishing boat who saved her fell overboard and had to be rescued.
What an utterly nasty, stupid, narcissistic sicko family.
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