Posted on 05/26/2010 1:49:19 PM PDT by Positive
I have been monitoring the live feed of the "Top Kill" apparatus from BP.com and after about three hours there is a definite change of events down there.
For the first couple of hours we could see several views of a very complex device rocking around in clear water.
Now there is gushing of what I presume is the "mud" plumeing.
We may get some incite as to progress soon.
Never seen anything like this,but when I was growing up in the East Texas field, a 500 barrel tank of oil broke open in a flooding of the Sabine River bottom near
Kilgore. Quite a mess when the water went down. oil all over the place. But two year later little evidence of it. So I am hopeful that natural forces will get rid of this stuff. But it is a mell of a hess.
Sorry, east. Didn’t mean to offend. Just responding to EPA’s interview and NOAA’s info:
“FROM NOAA.GOV: Marine mammals and turtles (effective May 23):
Marine Mammals - To date, 19 dead dolphins have been verified since April 30 within the “designated spill area” ?none of which have had visible external or internal signs of oiling.
Sea Turtles - A total of 209 sea turtles have been verified since April 30 within the designated spill.
Of that, three entirely oiled turtles were captured alive during dedicated on-water surveys last week: two small Kemp’s ridley and a larger subadult loggerhead turtle. All three were returned to shore and taken to the Audubon Aquarium where they are undergoing de-oiling and care. They are doing well in rehabilitation.
These were the only turtles with visable signs of oil on their bodies.
In addition, 194 dead and 12 live sea turtles stranded (of those 12 live strandings, two have died in rehab).”
I guess I wouldn’t drink it until some of these questions are answered.
Our Government: Screw the people. Save the turtles.
I’ve heard some similar stories. I’ve also heard about Prince William Sound after the Valdez grounding. They “cleaned€ all but one beach, left it as a control. That beach recovered in 2 years. Some of the others are still sterile, seems high pressure hot water combined with concentrated dispersant’s will clean up the oil, and all life forms. Nature will clean this up, thought moderate concentrations of dispersant’s will help mitigate the short term damage.
The government will have a real problem now. The whackos drove them offshore to a point of major problems becoming much more probable. We have one and it will be used against oil of any kind.
This leak must be stopped as soon as practically possible. The fight then ensues that land drilling vs no drilling commences. What I hate about this entire event is that very important find and placement will be out of reach for a very long time, if forever.
The government will have a real problem now. The whackos drove them offshore to a point of major problems becoming much more probable. We have one and it will be used against oil of any kind.
This leak must be stopped as soon as practically possible. The fight then ensues that land drilling vs no drilling commences. What I hate about this entire event is that very important find and placement will be out of reach for a very long time, if forever.
I was wondering about that myself, Mojito, but hesitated to ask.
You stuned Justin Bieber????
Thanks for the info.
Just detergent? Get real. Don’t even bother to reply to me again.
They have released 500-750,000 gallons of the two dispersants, Corexit EC9500A and Corexit EC9527A. So far dispersants have been used in much greater volume than ever before in US waters. The dispersant goes by the trade name “Corexit.” It’s supposed to be a pun on the words “corrects it.” Corexit is called “Hidez-It” by insiders because its purpose is not to correct but deceive. These facts have been known for decades. Corexit was banned in Great Britian over a decade ago. Corexit is 2.61 in toxicity, which means it’s highly toxic. It has an effectiveness of 54.7. more toxic and less effective than other approved mixtures, has been deployed in large amounts and at great depths in an attempt to break up the oil billowing out of the well head, and on the surface.
The environmental effects of this unprecedented use at great depths are unknown. Corexit 9500 was banned in Britain for use in oil spills over a decade ago because of concerns over its environmental impact. There are also reports that health problems among workers involved in the cleanup following the 1989 Exxon-Valdez spill in Alaska, including respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders, were linked to an earlier version of the Corexit dispersant. Why are marine ecosystems being sacrificed to save coastal habitats, a trade off that wouldn’t be an issue if less toxic solutions were stockpiled.
Here’s some info for you, try to stay informed and keep up before you spout off the next time:
The decision, first reported in the Washington Post, comes only hours after Congress heard devastating testimony from BP executives and scientists on the high toxicity of two forms of Corexit, and their relative ineffectiveness against the type of crude now polluting the Gulf. The two versions of the chemical being used on the spill are banned in the UK because they are damaging to sealife.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/may/20/gulf-oil-spill-chemical-dispersant
BP’s investment in Nalco and oil industry representation on the board is the main reasons that Corexit was used instead of Dispirsit, which EPA testing shows to be twice as effective and a third less toxic. BP is hedging its losses with the profit it will make with its investment in Nalco, but who else benefits?
Follow the money...and the money goes to Goldman Sachs and friends.
Don’t listen to him. I can assure you it is NOT just a detergent. He probably thinks Katrina was just a pesky little storm too, no big deal. If it’s a big deal, I say it’s a big deal. This is a big deal. The rest of the world thinks it’s a big deal, read their newspapers. Why he chooses to act as if it is nothing is beyond me. Probably works for an oil company.
Just do a search for:
Toxicity of Corexit
seems high pressure hot water combined with concentrated dispersant’s will clean up the oil, and all life forms
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you are wrong again... completely wrong. Leaving it alone is better than using hot water and disperants. Check out studies and see which fared better and recuperated in the long term. Left alone or using disperants and hot water under pressure.
Get back to me after you complete your research and why do you keep stating “facts” with no links. With no links, it’s just your opinion and you hope people just take your word for it. I know for a fact you are wrong and I can provide links but I’ll let you do the homework to back up what you claim.
The info you provided above is more in line with the research I've been doing on the subject.
Yeah, bacteria will eat anything, so will one of my dogs. That doesn't mean it's good for it.
We catch and eat Snapper, Grouper, etc. about 3-5 times a week. In the summer we eat also get Lobster and in the winter Stone Crabs. Stone Crabs and most lobster come from the Gulf. I don’t want to eat toxins that are stored in their bodies.
You're calling him wrong even though he was making the same point.
I’m with you bro. Neither do I.
You may not realize the proportions. The wellhead/BlowOffPreventer/assembly/manifold/contraption whatever you would like to call it is about 5 stories high with its associated plumbing surrounding it. The live shot is the actual well piping that connects to the top the wellhead and normally runs to the surface drilling rig or platforms.
The rig blew up (RIP) and all the piping free falls to the ocean bottom and stayed connected at the wellhead but laid over or crimped or buckled but still is attached with stress cracks or holes spewing oil/gas/mud through them at this bend in the damaged pipe. (video camera monitoring)
Normally the BOP is there to shut the flow of oil off but failed or partially failed. With all the stress it went through I’m amazed they can still work with it.
Complex fix to plug the leak yes but basic....from the BP website ‘how we try stop this’ write up:
“....With the manifold, we can also pump the ‘junk shot’ if necessary to stop too much of the kill mud going out through the top of the BOP rather than going down into the well to stop the flow. By switching valves in the subsea manifold, we can inject the ‘bridging material’ (the junk), which will prevent such losses and enable the top kill to continue.
We’ve been testing the junk shot on-shore, looking at different configurations of what might restrict the flow out of the Deepwater Horizon riser and what types of materials would help shut it off. Materials in a junk shot can include well-known items such as pieces of tires, golf balls, and pieces of rope.
Most of the equipment is on site and preparations continue for this operation.”
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