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A question for birthers: why Mombassa?
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Posted on 05/12/2010 8:47:16 AM PDT by curiosity

The origin of modern myths and legends is a side interest of mine, the birther myths among them.

Now I understand why Obama being born in Kenya made it into your belief system, despite it being physically impluasible (requiring around 5 days and five flights, most on propeller planes) and financially impossible (it would have cost about a year of her parents' combined salaries) for Stanley Ann & Obama Sr. to travel there for her to give birth. After all, Obama's Father was from Kenya, so if you are going to make up a myth about Obama being born abroad, what better place than Kenya?

Implausibilty, and even impossiblilty doesn't deter the making of myths if there is a strong emotional reason to believe them, as in this case.

What I don't understand is, of all possible places in Kenya, why make Mombassa the birthplace in your myth? If you look at the map of Kenya, it's on the other end of the country from Obama Sr.'s village, 762 miles away, which would make it a minimum 2 day train ride. Probably longer, since Kenyan trains were very fast in 1961.

I suppose you could argue that there were no hospitals in Obama's village, so they had to travel to a major city. But Nairobi was closer, and more modern.

So why Mombassa? Not only is it completely implausible; I don't see the emotional appeal. Why Mombasssa rather than his father's village? Or why Mombassa rather than Nairobi?

Help me out here, birthers. Why do you reserve this special place for Mombassa in your belief system?


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To: egannacht

It isn’t causing division anymore than Clinton’s daliences. It is just part of the overall picture and I think many of us are arguing on all fronts about policy from the WH and Congress.


121 posted on 05/12/2010 9:55:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: curiosity

Pure intellectual exercise starts at the source. Perhaps you should try contacting the WH for his birth certificate and Soros, Frank, and Dodd for the bubble information.


122 posted on 05/12/2010 9:55:17 AM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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To: knittnmom

Thx!

There once was a guy named Obama.
Who stars in this big panorama.
The Birfers heap scorn
On his “Hawaiian Born”
While the ruder ones yell “Oh, Yo Momma!”

FWIW, Urban Dictionary defines, “Yo Momma! as “One way to insult someone is by telling something false of their mother, as a form of negative comment.”

parsy, the purist


123 posted on 05/12/2010 9:55:39 AM PDT by parsifal (I will be sent to an area where people are demanding free speech and I will not like it there. Orly.)
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To: curiosity
I will concede that you have certainly raised some very good points. 12,000 miles is a long way for a teen age mother to be to leave her best friend. This would have been her mother under those circumstances. The fact remains that you yourself do not know where the now President was born, neither do I. Let me raise a non-sequitor (bit of a pun here)

A Patrick Hitler, who was a nephew of Adolf Hitler served in the US Navy in WW2. He was wounded in action and lived out his life in the USA. The truth stranger than fiction.

Impossible? No.

124 posted on 05/12/2010 9:56:50 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: Genoa

I asked already and you will not be receiving your answer.

He has no real information just a sense that we are totally wrong and only his opinion matters.


125 posted on 05/12/2010 9:56:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: curiosity

So, out of curiosity, do YOU have a a legit birth certificate for this straw man of a claim?


126 posted on 05/12/2010 9:57:30 AM PDT by bvw
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To: curiosity; astyanax

The information you are missing is a point by point rebuttal or even your own theory.

You just “feel this way”


127 posted on 05/12/2010 9:58:01 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Genoa

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/hawaiinews/20081101_officials_verify_birth_certificate_of_obama.html

and there have been many times since. Recently the governor said what hospital he was born in.


128 posted on 05/12/2010 9:58:36 AM PDT by ChurtleDawg (voting only encourages them)
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To: Peter Libra

Yet Stanley was in Seattle for college classes and Vancouver/Mercer Island to visit only weeks after the Holy Hawaiian Birth of the Obama Legend.


129 posted on 05/12/2010 9:59:16 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Peter Libra
The fact remains that you yourself do not know where the now President was born, neither do I.

The state of Hawaii says he was born in Hawaii. That's good enough for me, as well as any court and any Federal agency. Why does it not satistfy you?

130 posted on 05/12/2010 10:00:29 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: ChurtleDawg
That's where she said she has "seen his original birth certificate"! That's not about the so-called COLB image. It's about the one they won't release.

131 posted on 05/12/2010 10:00:45 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: FTJM
This what a Hawaiin Long Form Birth Certificate looks like:
 

132 posted on 05/12/2010 10:02:52 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: parsifal

He is a bastard.....


133 posted on 05/12/2010 10:03:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
The information you are missing is a point by point rebuttal

Rebuttal of what?

or even your own theory.

The state of Hawaii says he was born in Hawaii. Since that's good enough in any court and in any Federal avency, it's good enough for me.

But that's really beside the point. I see most birthers wouldn't be convinced no matter what Obama did. If he released a long form today, it woudn't take 5 minutes for internet hacks with phony Ph.D.'s (I'm looking at you, Polland) to declare them forgeries.

That's why I think I'm shifting my focus and treating birthers more as an anthropological phenomenon.

134 posted on 05/12/2010 10:04:08 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity
Are you saying you want him to "release his long form today"? Congratulations, and welcome to the dark side!

135 posted on 05/12/2010 10:05:23 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: curiosity; Peter Libra

let’s test the conviction of their statement and have them declare by affidavit and provide proof for their claim.


136 posted on 05/12/2010 10:05:35 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: curiosity

Who is Polland?


137 posted on 05/12/2010 10:06:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: parsifal
It’s easier for Birfers to put into limericks than Kanyadhiang?

LOL. Good one.

138 posted on 05/12/2010 10:06:50 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

139 posted on 05/12/2010 10:06:55 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Another one of your Con jobs? LOL Clever.


140 posted on 05/12/2010 10:07:42 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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