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US says FL can't opt out (Of ObamaCare)
Health Florida News ^ | 4/24/10 | Carl Gentry

Posted on 04/24/2010 3:19:30 PM PDT by pissant

Only hours after the Florida House and Senate voted to “opt out” of the new federal health law, the top U.S. health official said Thursday night that will not be permitted.

Without mentioning any particular state or going into detail, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius said that state and local officials can vent all they want about a so-called “federal takeover” of health care. But they cannot deny their citizens access to its benefits or requirements, she told the Association of Health Care Journalists.

“They may want to opt out, but they don’t get to opt out all of their citizens who want and need health care,” Sebelius said.

Florida has an estimated 4 million uninsured, most of whom will be covered when the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA) takes full effect in 2014.

At least 30 states have passed state constitutional amendment legislation similar to that approved by the Florida Legislature, according to theNational Conference of State Legislatures.

Sebelius said the backlash against the ACA has been ginned up by “misinformation,” much of it deliberate. Thus HHS will be setting up an Internet site to answer frequent questions and a toll-free helpline, similar to that operated for Medicare beneficiaries. HHS staff members present at the conference said they hope to have the Internet site up by July 1 and the help desk soon after.

(Excerpt) Read more at healthnewsflorida.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; healthcare; isobamaateabagger; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamacare; socialism; statesrights
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To: Repeal The 17th

>>> So, when did Lincoln free the slaves in the northern states?

Were it not for slavery, there would not have ever been a civil war. That’s my point... my perspective... my opinion.

If someone can provide other SPECIFIC issues regarding states rights that were not linked to slavery for which states were willing to secede over, then i’m genuinely interested in knowing about it. No... i’m not a history buff... but I know enough about it to understand that slavery was at the core.

Technically, Lincoln didn’t free the slaves. It was an amendment to the constitution which made it illegal.


121 posted on 04/24/2010 5:23:35 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: depressed in 06
"When the feds vote a special tax on Florida, the sh!t will hit the fan."

They will just cut other forms of funding, highway funds and such. The Feds how to play the game. Its been done long before this bunch of Liberals got control.

122 posted on 04/24/2010 5:23:57 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

I think every day brings us one day closer where nearly everyone will see what we see in the obamanation!


123 posted on 04/24/2010 5:24:43 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Balding_Eagle

“I’m grateful for Pelosie, Reed, and now Sebelius.

In many ways God is still blessing America.”

Pelosi.

Still, your spelling excels your logic and theology.


124 posted on 04/24/2010 5:26:41 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: RightOnline

The primary reason for the secession of the southern states, precipitating the Civil war, was slavery.

Institutional slavery was written into the Confederate Constitution.

The best selling book was Uncle Tom’s Cabin, not a treatise on State’s Rights or the evils of cotton tariffs and regulated trade.

Lincoln and Douglas met for 7 debates and the issue of slavery dominated each and every one of those debates.

In 1861, the Vice President of the Confederacy, Alexander Stephens said that slavery was “the immediate cause of the late rupture and the present revolution.” He said the United States had been founded on the false belief that all men are created equal. The Confederacy, in contrast, had been “founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the Negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural moral condition.”

I am not asking you to believe me. I am asking you to question your conviction that the Civil War was only about State’s Rights and to read and study more and then come to your own conclusion.


125 posted on 04/24/2010 5:28:42 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: Safrguns

Wrong document - that was the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution mentions no right to life, liberty or the pursuit of happiness (property).


126 posted on 04/24/2010 5:30:45 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: pissant

Sorry, I bit out of the loop of late.

Unions, muslims and Amish can opt out, but not States???

Where does this leave Romneycare?


127 posted on 04/24/2010 5:30:57 PM PDT by maggief (Not everything is what it seems.)
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To: JoSixChip

LOL I have turned my doghouse into a man cave since I spend so much time in it. :D)


128 posted on 04/24/2010 5:31:55 PM PDT by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: goodnesswins

What is SO HARD about comprehending “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”


129 posted on 04/24/2010 5:32:07 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Safrguns

“...Technically, Lincoln didn’t free the slaves...”
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Only partly correct.


130 posted on 04/24/2010 5:32:13 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Greetings, and how are you today, comrade?)
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To: Mad Dawgg

When they cut funding, the city blacks will starve and revolt and get no care in hospitals and die


131 posted on 04/24/2010 5:33:31 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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To: demkicker

Are you still sane after putting this together or have they packed you off to “the” home? Thanks for posting this and I will save it!! I gave up - I could not take the stress of tearing into the bill(s)....doesn’t mean I won’t holler loud and long - just can’t dissect the bills like this and BRAVO to you for doing so.


132 posted on 04/24/2010 5:33:42 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Personal chattel slavery is over for nearly one and one half centuries then, and division remains.

Back to the distinction between reasons for wars, and pretexts for them.

Anyway, the mill of the gods keeps grinding.


133 posted on 04/24/2010 5:33:57 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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To: Jim 0216

“I’m getting tired of letting the women and the blacks run the show.”

If it weren’t for the strong women in the GOP, we’d be in a huge mess now. Bachman, Palin, Brewer, Malking, etc. The GOP men are wimps, generally speaking.


134 posted on 04/24/2010 5:36:37 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: Psalm 144

The Emancipation Proclamation was a successful maneuver that kept the British from supporting the Confederacy with arms and munitions, and naval assistance, if not soldiers.

Britain had wanted to trade directly with the South so as to get cheaper cotton. The Northern voters voted for high cotton tariffs that cost British buyers a lot of money. Britain had an economic interest in trading directly with a free Confederate nation of Southern states.

The British people were very anti-slavery, having demanded an end to slavery in Britain not 25 years before.

With the Emancipation Proclamation stating that all Southern slaves were free men, he boxed the British government into either supporting Confederate slave practice and alienating the British subjects, or appealing to the British people by not supporting the Confederacy.

It was a brilliant move by Lincoln that kept the British on the sidelines. It was never intended to free anybody as it carried no weight of enforcement. It was a shrewd political move.


135 posted on 04/24/2010 5:36:39 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Bye bye Miss American Freedom. When did we vote for Communism?)
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To: Safrguns

here you go some of his comments
I declare that I have no purposes directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

“If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do

will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races - that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.– Abraham Lincoln 1858


136 posted on 04/24/2010 5:38:41 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Safrguns

his famous speech was not to free slaves but to use slavery as two things, as a moral issue as the north was pissed off with war
2. because Europe was thinking about recognising the south as a country but would not if slavery was the top issue and Lincoln made it as such


137 posted on 04/24/2010 5:40:09 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: blackbart.223

correct and agree,


138 posted on 04/24/2010 5:43:11 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Terry Mross

they don’[t want states rights because it interferes with their power grab and overall control


139 posted on 04/24/2010 5:43:58 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“It was never intended to free anybody as it carried no weight of enforcement.”

On that, I can fully agree.

I don’t think there was any real prospect of any of the European powers entering the ACW. Just as we should have stayed out of the First World War, the Europeans saw no imperative interest in the fight. Personal opinion to be sure.


140 posted on 04/24/2010 5:45:16 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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