Posted on 04/14/2010 9:10:31 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
An Army doc who refuses to go to Afghanistan until President Obama produces a birth certificate will face court-martial.
Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, a decorated military man who has become a part of the fringe "birther" movement - which believes President Obama was not born in the United States - could face a dishonorable discharge for failing to obey orders, MSNBC reported on Tuesday.
The 18-year veteran came out in support of the largely discredited conspiracy theorists at the end of March, proclaiming he would "disobey" his "illegal" orders to deploy.
"I believe all servicemen and women, and the American people, deserve the truth about President Obama's constitutional eligibility to the office of the presidency and the commander in chief," he said in a video statement posted on YouTube on March 30.
The Bronze Star Medal recipient refuses to go to Afghanistan for a second tour until Obama releases his birth certificate showing he was, in fact, born in the U.S.
"Seeking out public office, especially the highest in our land, means you must uphold the Constitution, Mr. President, and confirm your eligibility," Lakin said in the video.
The Army doctor was informed of his court-martial by his brigade commander, and his Pentagon building pass and laptop have been seized, MSNBC reported.
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Really? U.S. Armed Forces Oath of Enlistment
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
Imagine, a world of knowledgeable and principled Americans. Well, we can dream . . .
You’re right. What I was trying to show is the enlisted personnel have to follow President’s orders, and officers do not.
The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:
Enlisted Oath
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
(Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).
Officer Oath
I, _____ (SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God.
With all due respect, how do we know that the man who Obama claims as his father is, in fact, his father?
I don’t know one damned thing about Obama, including the identity of his biological paternal parent. It could be Rosie O’ Donnel for all I know.
Or Frank Davis, who was an american.
We are going to need to see the official record. Obama has lied about EVERY SINGLE THING, and that is all there is to it.
Well, Bill Clinton did. But BHO takes "shady, sleazy & disjointed" to a whole nother level.
Interesting. Although we do not actually know whether or not BHO, Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham were ever married, it is official that they were divorced, and that BHO, Sr. accepted paternity of young Barack.
So it is an interesting legal point you raise about the FMD connection. However, it would not be on the birth certificate.
Those who wish to see that becoming-mythical, actual long-form Birth Certificate should be in Honolulu, bringing suit against the State of Hawaii, which is bound by statute to release the documentation they used to announce to the world that BHO, Jr. was a "Natural Born Citizen."
Joseph Farah of WND, among other people, would serve the cause one hell of a lot better if they concentrated their BC paper chase in the right court.
I too, would like to see the BC. But to me, it is a bit beside the point. For example, a Hawaiian Dog License or Car Title has a better chance of being truly genuine than an Hawaiian BC of this era. That is because many Hawaiian residents did their overseas relatives a favor by registering the foreign birth of young relatives in Hawaii. Not even the State has any idea which birth certificates are for real, and which were obtained under false pretenses.
Gramma Dunham, for one, could have handled it very efficiently. The hospital nonsense, the delivery doctor nonsense? Nonsense. In those days, the person who obtained the birth certificate for a little foreign kid could just say "home birth," and that was that.
So, be prepared that at the end of the long paper chase there might well be an official Hawaiian Birth Certificate .... which although a sign, still doesn't really prove anything.
In the meantime, it is incontrovertible that Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., (a drunken, wife-beating, commie polygamist bum) was the official father of our POTUS,and was a foreigner.
At any rate, what difference does this all make? If every court case underway in every court, were to suddenly take a turn in our direction, we would still be stuck with this SOB until the end of his term. The cases will take that long to come to a finale. No matter what any court finds, remember it is still up to Congress to remove the SOB.
The Constitution BHO, Jr. violated, ironically now protects him in the usurped office!
Sorry.
It's the "duly elected" part that is at issue.
He was clearly an American - sort of.
That said, a court-martial will be asked to interpret the colonel's actions in the narrowest possible sense (Conduct Unbecoming) and the prosecution will object to any attempt to widen the issue. That's the way the 'game' gets played.
Maybe this case will force this intruding imposter into the light of day.
They HAVE to neutralize him. He’s destroying our economy, planning to make masses of illegal invaders citizens, creating total chaos in the international field and governing outside the Constitution.
This issue could very well do it. It could provide the tinder to have him removed from office. It would totally discredit the Democrats with the Independents.
A weakened Biden would be easier to deal with and easier to defeat.
Yes, but many of the cases that have been brought have been killed in their infancy because of "lack-of-standing" on the part of those bringing suit. The civilian courts are clearly ducking the whole issue. Perhaps it's going to take a military court-martial to break the dam?
I respect what you're trying to say, however.
It’s no problem. Although I do consider myself a “birther”, I am not holding my breath on any of this.
I also agree that we are stuck with this man at least until the end of his first term. I am not convinced at this point that the GOP can do anything other than lose.
I HOPE that at least one state is smart enough to enact a law that requires Obama to prove his eligibilty before 2012, but I am not counting on it.
It also seems clear that Hawaii is breaking its own laws in an effort not to reveal anything on Boy Obama. Something stinks to high Heaven here, and a whole lot of people know about it.
But you know, I am not going to sweat this. If this is the half assed effort that the powers that be, the media, Bill O’ Really, Glenn Beck, and whomever else put forth to defend this great country, then so be it.
As far as the irony of the usurper being protected by the very constitution that he violated, I would expect nothing less from a stealth muslim jihadist. Their MO is to use the systems of the infidel country against itself, and that is exactly what he is doing.
Saul? Is that you?
I luv you two conspirists guys......
Please explain why he would be charged with conduct unbecoming if all they need is missing movement? If it's conduct unbecoming BECAUSE he missed movement, what's the point of charging him with unbecoming?
Why charge any defendant with multiple infractions? Both would apply. Officers are expected to deploy with their units. Deliberately failing to do so is certainly conduct unbecoming.
“Oh, Ive noticed that the only time you float to the surface is in threads such as these, otherwise you really dont have much to contribute.”
Non-Sequitur was posting here years before anyone heard of Obama. A quick check would reveal he (or she, don’t know which) posts on a variety of topics.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:nonsequitur/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change
Of course, I’m a paid Obama troll myself, according to birthers - most of whom I first encountered a couple of days ago.
Hmm...so how does the chain of command work? If not the President, then the Sec of Def and/or the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is a loose cannon with deployment orders? My understanding is that the President directs one or the other to issue those orders.
Long time no see. Good comments!
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