Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D
Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.
LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.
Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.
The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.
Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.
Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.
Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com
Cool, thanks! The number isn’t as high as I would’ve guessed for me! “ONLY” 12,571 posts in about 9 1/2 years! ;) I guess this makes it 12,572!
Means you’ve accomplished a lot more in your life than I have.
My kids are long gone, too.
I’ll see your Wong and raise you one sitting Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Senator Patrick Leahy.
On April 10, 2008, Sens. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduced a resolution expressing the sense of the U.S. Senate that presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) was a ‘natural born Citizen,’ as specified in the Constitution and eligible to run for president.
It was during the bill’s hearing that Sen. Patrick Leahy, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, made the following statement:
“Because he was born to American citizens, there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen,” said Leahy. “I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the Senate.”
At a Judiciary Committee hearing on April 3, Leahy asked Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, himself a former Federal judge, if he had doubts that McCain was eligible to serve as President.
“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied.
“That is mine, too,” said Leahy.
What’s interesting here is that Sen. Leahy, the Chairman of the Senate Judiciary, confirms that a “natural born” citizen is the child of American citizen parents.
Parents — that’s two. That’s BOTH parents.
Every time the words, “citizen” and “parent,” are used by Sen. Leahy and Sec. Chertoff, the plural case, “citizens” and “parents,” is used. The plural case is the operative case.
It is Sen. Leahy’s opinion — his own recorded words, in a formal Senate Resolution and on his U. S. Senate website — that Barack Obama is not a “natural born” citizen, and therefore not eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief, regardless of his birthplace.
Obama had one American parent —singular — his mother. His father was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain.
Obama, himself, “at birth,” was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain — he says so on his own campaign website. This fact introduces the concept of “divided loyalties,” — the reason the founders created the eligibility requirement in the first place — a fact that further underlines Obama’s ineligibility.
The source of this information is Sen. Leahy’s own website. The webpage contains a statement about the resolution; the resolution, itself; the Statement Of Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.); and an excerpt of Sec. Chertoff’s testimony.
The plural word “parents” is used four times. When used to identify the parents, the word “citizens” is used five times. That’s nine times that Sen. Leahy, on his own website describes the eligibility requirement. There is NO PLACE in any of these four documents where the singular case of “parent” or “citizen” is used.
The real purpose of this bill was to change article II, section 1, clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States with reference to the requirements of being a “natural born citizen” by the Democratic Party leadership — paving the way for an Obama run.
Both Leahy and Chertoff avoid addressing the “in the US mainland” (jus solis) element of the eligibility requirement and focus solely on parentage (Jus sanguinis) in making their arguments and by doing so bring focus to the fundamental reason Obama is not qualified. He had one American parent and one foreign parent. Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen — no matter where he was born.
Obama is a co-signer of this resolution. So, I guess he too agrees that one needs two American parents to be eligible for POTUS — except he doesn’t care — after all, he’s the Obamamessiah. Rules don’t apply to him.
And you are poorly mannered, and far too free with insults.
I suspect overwhelmingly. Their objective is to disrupt by diluting or derailing the threads as much as possible. Even if it is not their objective, their actions have the same effect.
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Fake IDs, based upon fake Birth Certificates, are an all-too-common occurrence in America. Ask any high school student who's been busted for carrying a fake drivers license to buy alcohol how easy it is to obtain what they need.
All but one of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers carried government-issued IDs – mostly state driver’s licenses. The hijackers found it easy to obtain these documents, often by taking advantage of an underground network that services illegal workers.
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This thread is out performing the energizer bunny rabbit.
May God bless Lt. Col Larkin. It is a courageous stand he is taking, and I wish Col. Roberts and many other officers and enlisted men would join him.
Why do we have a President about whom we do not know:
1. Grade School records
2. High School records
3. Occidental College records
4. Columbia University records
5. Columbia thesis
6. Harvard Law School records
7. Harvard Law Review articles
8. Articles from the University of Chicago
9. Passport History
10. Medical records
11. Files from his years as an Illinois state senator
12. Illinois State Bar Association records
13. Baptism records
14. Adoption records.
Obama is a fraud, America is in danger, and the framers of the Constitution probably didn’t envision a time when the Constitution would not be enforced by a sitting Congress.
These scumbags need to be removed from office ASAP.
*snerk* :-D
> This thread is out performing the energizer bunny rabbit.
That’s fine — it parks Obama’s After-Birther troll herds here so we
can correct their misinformation on the spot!
It’s always surprising to see how many lurkers are here just to learn
about what’s going on, and even more surprising to see the CORRECT
information posted from the Eligibility threads here on other websites
other than FR.
bump
AMEN and a hundred thousand kudos to you sir for all your well researched and informative posts over these many threads. Well done, I always learn something!
I never thought I’d see Pat Leahy supported on FreeRepublic as an authority on anything. However, the question he was addressing was someone born abroad, not in the USA. Therefor, it is apples and oranges.
Sorry you don’t like my attitude, but I found within hours of my first post that birthers felt free to say I was being paid by Obama, an Obamabot, that I didn’t give a rat’s rear end about my country, that I wasn’t a conservative at all...and I”ve had it up to the eyeballs with their stupidity.
You see, no one will ever beat Obama by sitting on their duff, waiting for a court somewhere to throw him out of office.
IT WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Money going to Lakin and supporting these bogus lawsuits needs to go to conservative candidates. We can only beat Obama at the ballot box, because the legal arguments being made by birthers don’t count for squat.
The US Supreme Court, prior to Obama taking office, blew them off without comment. Birthers have lost everywhere, and deservedly so. It isn’t the courts that have jurisdiction over a presidential election - it is Congress. And if Congress decides Obama meets the requirements, then it is over. It is Congress that gets to say what a NBC is, not the courts.
The idea that Pat Leahy believes Obama is not a NBC qualified to be President is ridiculous. It is even more ridiculous to claim “Obama, himself, “at birth,” was a citizen of Kenya, and a subject of Great Britain — he says so on his own campaign website. This fact introduces the concept of “divided loyalties,” — the reason the founders created the eligibility requirement in the first place — a fact that further underlines Obama’s ineligibility.”
1 - Obama’s citizenship and ‘loyalty’ would have transferred to Kenya in 1964. If he failed to denounce his US citizenship and file for citizenship in Kenya by the time he was 21, he would (and did) lose any claim to Kenyan citizenship.
2 - Obama hates the UK. The idea that Obama gives a tinker’s damn about the UK in any positive sense is equally ludicrous.
Sorry, but these arguments are 1) stupid, 2) distracting from the real business of getting conservatives in government, and 3) make conservatives look like nutjobs. The only one benefiting from the birther movement is Obama.
“...one time a Kenyan/British citizen that you can NEVER lose that, it’s permanent!!!”
Actually, Kenya’s Constitution, as I have posted, specifically states that at one’s 21st birthday, they must either renounce their other citizenship or lose Kenyan citizenship. So no, Obama cannot be a Kenyan citizen.
And since his ‘British citizenship’ was part and parcel of Kenya, he’s not a British citizen either.
Meanwhile, as I have pointed out, it is stupid to say a foreign country can force you to be a citizen. It true, then Russia could make us all Russian citizens, and no one could be President...
And again, you will note that NO ONE - no state, no member of Congress and no court - agrees with your ‘legal’ interpretation. The folks who make and interpret the laws all, without exception, say birthers arguments are bogus.
So no, no court anywhere is going to throw Obama out. And wasting time and effort pretending otherwise helps Obama and the Democrats.
If your purpose is to dissuade people, you won't. Wen it comes to info on this, you are an amateur.
You twist Leahy’s and Chertoff’s words to suit your argument.
Your defense misquotes the transcript of the hearing. Typical — cheap dissimulation.
You base your reply by misquoting the transcript, writing, “he was addressing someone born abroad.”
No Leahy wasn’t. Neither was Chertoff’s reference. They addressed a single issue — parentage — and the conclusion of the two was a “natural born” citizen required two American citizen parents.
And born in the US of A.
And his motives are transparent, as are the others who have *all of a sudden* jumped on this issue, from the “you’re all idiots/kooks/it’s going nowhere” side.
Anyone can easily check posting histories and they tell the tale. On FR no one can erase their previous comments. It’s all crystal clear.
(Their angry arrogance also says something about them.)
And to top it all off, if they were so concerned about electing conservatives, as many of them claim, well heck - why are they wasting valuable time on threads that are discussing useless, doomed, kookdom issues?
That alone proves their real agenda.
They won't dissuade anyone. The intent now is to insult. That isn't working either.
Yeah, most of them seem to be reduced to p***ing on real freepers. Very, very childish.
They’re arguments (if they can be elevated as though they were sincere or real arguments) have been shot down so many times it’s pathetic to see them drag out the carcasses. It’s almost embarrassing!
So now, insults. It’s the last arrow in their little quiver.
I twisted nothing. They were speaking of McCain, and his birth in Panama.
If Obama HAD been born in Kenya, then having only one US citizen for a parent would have disqualified him. If born in the US, then he is a citizen by right of his natural birth - a natural born citizen. At least, that is how 50 states, Congress, and every court has called it...but what do they know?
Y’all just continue to wait for a military court to throw out Obama...and wait...and wait...
Me? I’ll donate to JD Hayworth and try to get some conservatives into our government.
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