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You Have the Right to Remain Silent (LT Colonel Lakin Read His Rights)
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Posted on 04/13/2010 8:19:14 AM PDT by Man50D

Washington, D.C., April 13, 2010. Army doctor Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin yesterday met with his brigade commander, Col. Gordon R. Roberts, who proceeded to read LTC Lakin his Miranda rights, and who informed LTC Lakin he had the “right to remain silent” because LTC Lakin is about to be charged with serious crimes. Col. Roberts was at age 19 awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor, the only recipient of the nation’s highest honor currently on active duty in the Army.

LTC Lakin had previously been ordered in writing to report yesterday to Ft. Campbell, KY and then on to deploy for his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Lakin refused to obey these orders and instead came to work yesterday morning at the Pentagon. Late yesterday afternoon he was confronted by his brigade commander.

Before the meeting was over, LTC Lakin’s Pentagon Access Pass had been revoked, and his laptop computer was set to be confiscated.

The message to LTC Lakin is clear; through official channels, he was informed yesterday that he will shortly be court-martialled for crimes (specifically, missing movement and conduct unbecoming an officer) that for others has led to lengthy imprisonment at hard labor.

Lakin has announced in a YouTube video that has now been viewed more than 110,000 times that he considers it his duty to refuse to obey orders that would be illegal if President Obama is ineligible to hold office.

Meanwhile, cries mount for proof of that eligibility, but nothing has been forthcoming. The Obama campaign at one point released a copy of computer-generated abstract of information purportedly in Hawaii's records system, but the source of this information is unclear and need not have been a birth certificate issued contemporaneously and signed by the doctor who attended the birth. Even the document released was only a copy, and the version printed in the Los Angeles Times on June 16, 2008 is on a form only in use since late 2001. Even as it is, the document contains a warning that it is merely “prima facie”--threshold, rebuttable and thus inconclusive --evidence of birth, and the copy the Times printed mysteriously has the certificate number blacked out, thereby rendering the document unusable according to language on the bottom.

Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: army; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; lakin; military; naturalborncitizen; obama; terrencelakin
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To: Mr Rogers
I haven't made a fool of myself, but you birthers are doing a good job of making conservatives look stupid.

Oh please, that asinine statement holds no value. Ridicule doesn't work w/conservatives.

O, ye, 'FOOL' apostle of Saul - Take your 'attempt' at ridicule as shove it! .
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule".

It's not impossible to counteract deceptive tactics. You lose, pawn of Saul.
521 posted on 04/13/2010 6:14:36 PM PDT by presently no screen name ( Repeal ZeroCare!)
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To: Mr Rogers; Jim Robinson
I haven't made a fool of myself, but you birthers are doing a good job of making conservatives look stupid.

I'd be careful with the insults as Jim Robinson is a "birther".

Post 131

To: pissant

Release the long form!

131 posted on Friday, February 12, 2010 8:28:17 PM by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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522 posted on 04/13/2010 6:15:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Mr Rogers

Citing WKA show just how little you know.....it was a CITIZENship case only and does not address NBC for the pupose of POTUS

Thanks for revealing yourself though.


523 posted on 04/13/2010 6:18:02 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Mr Rogers

Not a single official verified squat. The ones who were sued, such as our valiant Attorney General in WA, siad it was not his job to verify it.

You are hanging your hat on Nancy Pelosi and the marxist aholes at factcheck, skippy.


524 posted on 04/13/2010 6:18:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Red Steel
AH Obama, just for the cost of $12 measly dollars you can show your genuine long form birth certificate to the public.

and we both know that won't solve anything.

525 posted on 04/13/2010 6:32:09 PM PDT by lucysmom
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To: lucysmom

Yes it will.


526 posted on 04/13/2010 6:34:57 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Wonder Warthog

I agree, and that would be all it would take to settle the entire issue. So why hasn’t she issued such a legal document?? Nothing prevents her from finding a notary, handing him such a statement, and have it signed and embossed. The fact that NOBODY has taken any real action to provide legally qualified testimony means that reasonable doubt exists.


None of us have any idea what information was provided in the legal briefs in any of the 70-some Obama eligibility lawsuits that have been filed in local, state and federal courts all across the nation. If I were a defense attorney hoping to get a case summarily dismissed by a judge, I would definitely submit a notarized statement from Dr. Fukino and also from the Registrar of Vital Records for the state of Hawaii with my briefs for the judge to see.
Thus far about 68 Obama eligibility lawsuits have been dismissed.

A more pertinent “why” question to me is why hasn’t any prosecuting attorney in the entire nation: a US Attorney, a state Attorney General or a District Attorney simply subpoenaed Obama’s birth records for a forgery investigation? Hawaii law allows a birth certificate to be released (without Obama’s permission) to a person with a valid court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.
The Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark L. Bennett is the perfect prosecutor to seek such a court order. He’s a Republican. But he hasn’t chosen to do so.


527 posted on 04/13/2010 6:36:38 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: lucysmom
and we both know that won't solve anything.

It would verify what we've been saying all along....he's a fraud and a usurper.

Seems to me that would go a long ways in solving everything.

528 posted on 04/13/2010 6:38:45 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: lucysmom; Red Steel
and we both know that won't solve anything.

This is speculation and opinion, not fact.

529 posted on 04/13/2010 6:41:08 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: All


I just thought I would share this billboard that was erected on I70 in Missouri.

It's tough not having standing, I thought this was the peoples government - it turns out we have no standing in government issues no matter what. It's who you know and who you own!
530 posted on 04/13/2010 6:42:09 PM PDT by jcsjcm (American Patriot - follow the Constitution and in God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Mr Rogers
That was a wonderful cut and paste job, Humpty. Your kindergarden teacher would be proud of you.

But I still prefer the 200 year old traditional historical documented definition for "natural born citizen" that Conservatives and U.S. Supreme Court Justices have to the amorphous definition that you Obamabot Progressives don't have.

531 posted on 04/13/2010 6:44:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Man50D; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ..
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Larkin Civil Disobedience Ping! This is true Civil Disobedience in the American tradition of liberty. He has pledged to us his life, his fortune, and his sacred honor.

Now we patriots must NOT fail him. Let the news fly among patriots far and wide. "Larkin must NOT fail!"

Donate to his legal defence fund!

[Given the seriousness of the offenses with which LTC Lakin is about to be charged, the American Patriot Foundation today renewed its plea for donations to its legal defense fund for LTC Lakin. Details are available at APF's website, www.safeguardourconstitution.com]


532 posted on 04/13/2010 6:46:08 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Candor7

BUMP


533 posted on 04/13/2010 6:47:26 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Tallguy
The decorations that he wears of not part of the equation>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

Thats right. If he is an Obama man, then he can kiss his laurals goodbye IMHO.

534 posted on 04/13/2010 6:47:42 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Fascist Junta ( member NRA))
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To: Uncle Chip
"...that you Obamabot Progressives don't have."

Why is it that anybody that disagrees with you on this issue is a troll or "Obamabot Progressive"?

535 posted on 04/13/2010 6:49:34 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Any dissent means you are a troll.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Yeh — why are you guys so disagreeable???


536 posted on 04/13/2010 6:51:31 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Sue him in court.


537 posted on 04/13/2010 6:54:34 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( 0bama: Our first AINO president)
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To: Uncle Chip

There is a difference between being disagreeable and accusing someone of being a traitor to their country and their cause.


538 posted on 04/13/2010 6:54:36 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Any dissent means you are a troll.)
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To: Candor7

Thanks, Candor7. Lt. Col. Lakin has courage beyond measure. I hope he makes BO’s life a living hell.


539 posted on 04/13/2010 6:56:31 PM PDT by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: Mr Rogers; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Danae; STARWISE; STE=Q; DJ MacWoW; MHGinTN; butterdezillion; ...

Maybe you really should take some time off and check out Mario Apuzzo’s site. He explain it to you in plain language, but it takes a lot of time to go through, but it would be worth it for you to get your “knowledge” straighten up!!!

Friday, April 2, 2010
Founder and Historian David Ramsay Defines a Natural Born Citizen in 1789
In defining an Article II “natural born Citizen,” it is important to find any authority from the Founding period who may inform us how the Founders and Framers themselves defined the clause. Who else but a highly respected historian from the Founding period itself would be highly persuasive in telling us how the Founders and Framers defined a “natural born Citizen. ” Such an important person is David Ramsay, who in 1789 wrote, A Dissertation on the Manners of Acquiring the Character and Privileges of a Citizen (1789), a very important and influential essay on defining a “natural born Citizen.”

David Ramsay (April 2, 1749 to May 8, 1815) was an American physician, patriot, and historian from South Carolina and a delegate from that state to the Continental Congress in 1782-1783 and 1785-1786. He was the Acting President of the United States in Congress Assembled. He was one of the American Revolution’s first major historians. A contemporary of Washington, Ramsay writes with the knowledge and insights one acquires only by being personally involved in the events of the Founding period. In 1785 he published History of the Revolution of South Carolina (two volumes), in 1789 History of the American Revolution (two volumes), in 1807 a Life of Washington, and in 1809 a History of South Carolina (two volumes). Ramsay “was a major intellectual figure in the early republic, known and respected in America and abroad for his medical and historical writings, especially for The History of the American Revolution (1789)…” Arthur H. Shaffer, Between Two Worlds: David Ramsay and the Politics of Slavery, J.S.Hist., Vol. L, No. 2 (May 1984). “During the progress of the Revolution, Doctor Ramsay collected materials for its history, and his great impartiality, his fine memory, and his acquaintance with many of the actors in the contest, eminently qualified him for the task….” http://www.famousamericans.net/davidramsay/. In 1965 Professor Page Smith of the University of California at Los Angeles published an extensive study of Ramsay’s History of the American Revolution in which he stressed the advantage that Ramsay had because of being involved in the events of which he wrote and the wisdom he exercised in taking advantage of this opportunity. “The generosity of mind and spirit which marks his pages, his critical sense, his balanced judgment and compassion,’’ Professor Smith concluded, “are gifts that were uniquely his own and that clearly entitle him to an honorable position in the front rank of American historians.”

In his 1789 article, Ramsay first explained who the “original citizens” were and then defined the “natural born citizens” as the children born in the country to citizen parents. He said concerning the children born after the declaration of independence, “[c]itizenship is the inheritance of the children of those who have taken part in the late revolution; but this is confined exclusively to the children of those who were themselves citizens….” Id. at 6. He added that “citizenship by inheritance belongs to none but the children of those Americans, who, having survived the declaration of independence, acquired that adventitious character in their own right, and transmitted it to their offspring….” Id. at 7. He continued that citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776….” Id. at 6.

Here we have direct and convincing evidence of how a very influential Founder defined a “natural born citizen.” Given his position of influence and especially given that he was a highly respected historian, Ramsay would have had the contacts with other influential Founders and Framers and would have known how they too defined “natural born Citizen.” Ramsay, being of the Founding generation and being intimately involved in the events of the time would have known how the Founders and Framers defined a “natural born Citizen” and he told us that definition was one where the child was born in the country of citizen parents. In giving us this definition, it is clear that Ramsay did not follow the English common law but rather natural law, the law of nations, and Emer de Vattel, who also defined a “natural-born citizen” the same as did Ramsay in his highly acclaimed and influential, The Law of Nations, Or, Principles of the Law of Nature, Applied to the Conduct and Affairs of Nations and Sovereigns, Section 212 (1758 French) (1759 English). We can reasonably assume that the other Founders and Framers would have defined a “natural born Citizen” the same way the Ramsay did, for being a meticulous historian he would have gotten his definition from the general consensus that existed at the time.

Ramsay’s article and explication are further evidence of the influence that Vattel had on the Founders in how they defined the new national citizenship. This article by Ramsay is one of the most important pieces of evidence recently found (provided to us by an anonymous source) which provides direct evidence on how the Founders and Framers defined a “natural born Citizen” and that there is little doubt that they defined one as a child born in the country to citizen parents. This time-honored definition of a “natural born Citizen” has been confirmed by subsequent United States Supreme Court and lower court cases such as The Venus, 12 U.S. (8 Cranch) 253, 289 (1814) (Marshall, C.J., concurring and dissenting for other reasons, cites Vattel and provides his definition of natural born citizens); Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857) (Justice Daniels concurring took out of Vattel’s definition the reference to “fathers” and “father” and replaced it with “parents” and “person,” respectively); Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) (same definition without citing Vattel); Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. 36, 21 L.Ed. 394, 16 Wall. 36 (1872) (in explaining the meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment clause, “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” said that the clause “was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States;” Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884) (“the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government, or the children born within the United States, of ambassadors or other public ministers of foreign nations” are not citizens under the Fourteenth Amendment because they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States); Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875) (same definition without citing Vattel); Ex parte Reynolds, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 (same definition and cites Vattel); United States v. Ward, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D.Cal. 1890) (same definition and cites Vattel); U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) (quoted from the same definition of “natural born Citizen” as did Minor v. Happersett); Rep. John Bingham (in the House on March 9, 1866, in commenting on the Civil Rights Act of 1866 which was the precursor to the Fourteenth Amendment: “[I] find no fault with the introductory clause, which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen. . . . ” John A. Bingham, (R-Ohio) US Congressman, March 9, 1866 Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866), Sec. 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866)).

The two-citizen-parent requirement would have followed from the common law that provided that a woman upon marriage took the citizenship of her husband. In other words, the Framers required both (1) birth on United States soil (or its equivalent) and (2) birth to two United States citizen parents as necessary conditions of being granted that special status which under our Constitution only the President and Commander in Chief of the Military (and also the Vice President under the Twelfth Amendment) must have at the time of his or her birth. Given the necessary conditions that must be satisfied to be granted the status, all “natural born Citizens” are “Citizens of the United States” but not all “Citizens of the United States” are “natural born Citizens.” It was only through both parents being citizens that the child was born with unity of citizenship and allegiance to the United States which the Framers required the President and Commander in Chief to have.

Obama fails to meet this “natural born Citizen” eligibility test because when he was born in 1961 (wherever that may be), he was not born to a United States citizen mother and father. At his birth, his mother was a United States citizen. But under the British Nationality Act 1948, his father, who was born in the British colony of Kenya, was born a Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) which by descent made Obama himself a CUKC. Prior to Obama’s birth, Obama’s father neither intended to nor did he become a United States citizen. Being temporarily in the United States only for purpose of study and with the intent to return to Kenya, his father did not intend to nor did he even become a legal resident or immigrant to the United States.

Obama may be a plain born “citizen of the United States” under the 14th Amendment or a Congressional Act (if he was born in Hawaii). But as we can see from David Ramsay’s clear presentation, citizenship “as a natural right, belongs to none but those who have been born of citizens since the 4th of July, 1776….” Id. at 6. Hence, Obama is not an Article II “natural born Citizen,” for upon Obama’s birth his father was a British subject and Obama himself by descent was also the same. Hence, Obama was born subject to a foreign power. Obama lacks the birth status of natural sole and absolute allegiance and loyalty to the United States which only the President and Commander in Chief of the Military and Vice President must have at the time of birth. Being born subject to a foreign power, he lacks Unity of Citizenship and Allegiance to the United States from the time of birth which assures that required degree of natural sole and absolute birth allegiance and loyalty to the United States, a trait that is constitutionally indispensable in a President and Commander in Chief of the Military. Like a naturalized citizen, who despite taking an oath later in life to having sole allegiance to the United States cannot be President because of being born subject to a foreign power, Obama too cannot be President.

Mario Apuzzo, Esq.
April 2, 2010
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


540 posted on 04/13/2010 6:58:18 PM PDT by danamco (")
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