Army Calls ‘Birther’ Doc’s Bluff

Military.com ^ | April 9, 2010 | Bryant Jordan

[EveningStar]

It's guts ball time for an Army surgeon who has vowed not to deploy to Afghanistan with his unit unless President Obama provides evidence that he's a "natural born" citizen of the United States.

In response to previously published statements by Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, the Army presented an official letter of counseling that directs him to report to Fort Campbell, Ky., on April 12 to begin deployment preparations with his unit.

[BP2]

So Lakin takes care to show Obama proper respect due a lawful President of the United States so as not to run afoul of the UCMJ, and then announces his intention to not obey any orders until Obama proves to him that he is, indeed, the President and due the respect he takes care to show.

Yep, it's the Eligibility to hold office that is the heart of the matter ... where this is all heading.

Quo warranto literally means "by what warrant?" Think of it as the Salute, which is based upon a medieval knight's gesture of raising his visor to reveal his identity. Obama occupies the office, that is undeniable. However, the question is: IS Obama Constitutionally-Eligible to act as the president?

Furthermore, Lt Col Lakin has NOT violated Article 88 (Contempt toward officials). It's a fine line, but it can be threaded if you know the limits of the law, in this case, as it applies in Military Court. It's obvious he and his attorney know those limits.

Background:

Following WWII, Congress debated and created the Uniform Code of Military Justice in 1950. For the re-numbered Article 88, the Senate agreed to use the 1949 Army Manual for Courts-Martial, which defined Contempt this way:

This article covers both (i) words which are contemptuous in themselves, such as abusive epithets, denunciatory or contemptuous expressions, or intemperate or malevolent comments upon official or personal acts, and (2) words which are contemptuous because of the connection in which they are used and the surrounding circumstances.

Compare Lt Col Lakin's necessary statements to address his conscientious objections in a respectful manner, to that of someone like Lt Howe in US v. Howe (1968), where the Fort Bliss officer carried a sign reading "End Johnson's Fascist Aggression in Vietnam," and you'll understand that Lt Col Lakin has NOT violated Article 88 (Contempt toward officials).

The government would simply be UNABLE to prove that Lt Col Lakin used "abusive epithets, denunciatory or contemptuous expressions, or intemperate or malevolent comments upon official or personal acts", etc.

[BP2]

At some point, deep down in your soul where you'd never openly admit here, you've gotta start wondering to yourself, “Holy sh!t. Maybe Barack lied to us, too!”

Even the Moderates can't poo-poo this. James Orengo (Minister of Lands) is very good friends with Prime Minister Raila Odinga. Raila Odinga is Obama's cousin. Odinga would know.

Can you feel it?
The lie is coming apart.

Hon. James Orengo:
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/tenth_forth_sess/Hansard/RDRAFT25.03P.pdf
(March 25, 2010 -- Kenya National Assembly Official Report, Page 31)

[bushpilot1]

Rep. A. Smyth (VA), House of Representatives, December 1820:

When we apply the term “citizens” to the inhabitants of States, it means those who are members of the political community. The civil law determined the condition of the son by that of the father. A man whose father was not a citizen was allowed to be a perpetual inhabitant, but not a citizen, unless citizenship was conferred on him.

[bushpilot1]

Speaker of the House of Representatives, Langdon Cheves, in February of 1814:

The children have a natural attachment to the society in which they are born: being obliged to acknowledge the protection it has granted to their fathers, they are obliged to it in a great measure for their birth and education. … We have just observed that they have a right to enter into the society of which their fathers were members. But every man born free, the son of a citizen, arrived at years of discretion, may examine whether it be convenient for him to join in the society for which he was destined by his birth.

[little jeremiah]

And/or, as parsnip is now doing, freepmailing people with uncontrollable weirdness!

(Cuckoo...cuckoo...)

[Non-Sequitur]

Which one of those is "not eligible"?

Fraud is defined as the intentional misrepresentation of material existing fact made by one person to another with knowledge of its falsity and for the purpose of inducing the other person to act. A felony in many states and certainly an impeachable offense.

[verity]

I’ll tell you again: You do not know what you are talking about. The Supreme Court is not in the chain of Command.

[bvw]

That list’s just as amazing — in a most sad way — as the election of the empty suit conman Marxist America-hater Obama.

I know many of us wondered “How did a modern intelligent first world nation like Germany ever elect and then allow and celebrate a Hitler.”

That list tells us we are able to do the same thing.

[HIDEK6]

I myself may not be brave enough to risk a career in this fashion,

Have we all forgotten the oath of the Founding Fathers?

To this end we pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I wouldn’t believe Nancy Pelosi or Barney Frank or Chris Dodd or Harry Reid if they spoke from the floor of their respective chambers and told the audience that Barack Obama was born in Indonesia. Why would I believe an assemblyman from Kenya who claims Obama was born in Kenya?

Perhaps the Assemblyman has heard all of the rumors and bought into them. What specific knowledge does he have of Obama’s birth?

His comments raise a question that should be investigated, nothing more. Unfortunately, nothing will come of it. Fox News won’t pick it up and neither will the Alphabet Media.

[STARWISE]

The Post & Email has contacted the Kenyan Parliament regarding statement that Obama is Kenyan-born

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/04/12/the-post-email-has-contacted-the-kenyan-parliament-regarding-statement-that-obama-is-kenyan-born/

[curiosity]

Even the Moderates can't poo-poo this.

I'm no moderate, but a solid reality-based conservative, and I'll pooh-pooh it anyway.

James Orengo (Minister of Lands) is very good friends with Prime Minister Raila Odinga.

So? How exactly does that give him any special knowledge of the circumstances of Obama's birth?

Raila Odinga is Obama's cousin. Odinga would know.

Huh? How exactly does being a cousin give him any special knowledge of Bambi's birth?

[BP2]

Why would I believe an assemblyman from Kenya who claims Obama was born in Kenya?

Ah, so now Kenya's Minister of Lands is a kook, when he said, "how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America?"

And so is Michelle, when in a video uncovered last week said, "When we visited Barack’s home country of Kenya in Africa ..."

And his African grandmother, other Kenyan officials on Nov. 5, 2008, early newspaper reports, etc — ALL KOOKS in your mind, because Obama is such an HONEST man.

Sweetie, when you and others have to work as HARD as you are to BELIEVE a corrupt politician like Obama, versus several others around him who would KNOW the TRUTH, it's obvious to everyone but yourself that your partisan support for Obama BLINDS YOU from the very TRUTH that's RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES.

Unfortunately, nothing will come of it. Fox News won’t pick it up and neither will the Alphabet Media.

The "Alphabet Media" (sans FoxNews) is in Obama's pocket, so is the White House Press Corps. And yet, Obama's approval rating is at an all-time low of 43%, despite the "Alphabet Media's" support for Obama. People are obviously seeing through the bullsh!t LIES and ignoring the glorious & "un-biased" MSM ... to get their news elsewhere.

Furthermore, a similar sentiment was expressed by your side about Monica's blue dress and those Global Warming emails ... how did that turn out for you Libs?

[BP2]

So? How exactly does that give him any special knowledge of the circumstances of Obama's birth?

You're working awfully HARD to BELIEVE Obama, and DISCOUNT all the others who have contradicted him, aren't you?

That's okay ... a small subset of the population believes in BIGFOOT, too.

[BuckeyeTexan]

See there’s your first analytical mistake. You assume that I believe Obama. I don’t. Obama is a liar and a thug with clear plans to destroy our system of goverment.

But in your mind, the fact that I don’t find these newspaper sources credible evidence, much less, difinitive evidence, leads you to the erroneous conclusion that I support Obama. Wrong again.

Further I don’t believe Global Warming is a man-made phenonmenon. Read Michael Crichtons’s State of Fear. It provides all the evidence you’ll ever need to debunk global warming.

I was in college when Willy was chasing was Monica in her lovely blue dress. So I wasn’t paying much attention at the time and certainly wouldn’t have offered any execuses for a POTUS who I didn’t respect.

[LorenC]

"Raila Odinga is Obama's cousin. Odinga would know."

Huh? How exactly does being a cousin give him any special knowledge of Bambi's birth?

Wrong question. The better question is: why is anyone still repeating the false rumor that Odinga is Obama's cousin? That was thoroughly debunked two years ago. By multiple sources. There's not even a specific familial relationship alleged (notice that no conspiracy theorist ever says who they're supposedly related through), because Odinga's parents are known (Oginga and Mary Juma Odinga), Obama's aunts and uncles are known, and there's no connection between any of them.

[BP2]

> I was in college when Willy was chasing was Monica in her lovely blue
> dress. So I wasn’t paying much attention at the time and certainly
> wouldn’t have offered any execuses for a POTUS who I didn’t respect.

So, what are your excuses for the one in office now?

[Cicero]

So why do you get on every thread and pretend that there’s no problem with Obama’s birth certificate?

The liars in the news media keep saying that he has produced it, it’s on line, the authorities in Hawaii have vouched for him, la la la, but none of it is true.

We have NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE AT ALL concerning his supposed birth in Hawaii. We have NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE AT ALL that he is even an American citizen, let alone natural born.

And he refuses to address the problem or produce any of his records.

[jamese777]

That list’s just as amazing — in a most sad way — as the election of the empty suit conman Marxist America-hater Obama.

I know many of us wondered “How did a modern intelligent first world nation like Germany ever elect and then allow and celebrate a Hitler.”

That list tells us we are able to do the same thing.

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They have really good medications for paranoia these days. I suggest you look into it.

Obama’s a mainstream, lukewarm Democrat that even the left wing of the Democratic Party is disappointed in, nothing more, nothing less.
Do you really think that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, a Republican; Admiral Mike Mullen, Bush’s selection for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Ben Bernanke, a Bush appointee and General David Petreaus would work for a “Marxist America hater”?
Do you really think that the entire Republican delegation to Congress would invite a “Marxist America hater” to addres their winter retreat and dialog with them about his policies (with not one question asked about his birth certificate or eligiblity)?

[BP2]

because Odinga's parents are known (Oginga and Mary Juma Odinga), Obama's aunts and uncles are known, and there's no connection between any of them.

Are you saying you've seen their birth certificates on FactCheck, too?

OR

Do you just enjoy wasting your time blogging about an issue the Department of Defense, Justice Department & US Attorneys Office should have completely under control?

LOL.