Posted on 04/01/2010 9:08:40 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
The following discussion assumes President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a United States citizen.
The purpose of this article is to highlight judicial and historical evidence suggesting that a "natural born citizen" must be born in the United States to parents who are citizens. By that definition, Obama is not eligible to be president. Therefore, his presidency and official administrative acts remain subject to being rendered void by the Supreme Court.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
And where has all these “famous” names taken us? Except YOU and your Freeper enablers helping your usurper (illegal alien?) in the White house to take this great nation rapidly downhill in the Socialistic lanes with your obvious approval!
Here is David Manning speaking directly to you and all of your “AFTER-BIRTHER” friends. You better wake up from your total naive but treasonous thinking about our country, otherwise you soon won’t have a country as we know it!!
http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=7133
Seems to me that if this ‘conversation’ was taking place in a drinking establishment where guns were permitted, Robinson would be seeking mew membership. lol
To you it’s all about the appearance of being smart, and the facts be darned.
Well-said.
Speaking of facts, I just found that in the state of Washington, you can get date of birth, certificate number and mother’s maiden name, all as part of the index data for birth records contemporary to when Obama was born. If Hawaii released this kind of information, they could have easily confirmed whether Obama’s alleged COLB was real or not. Why would they be so protective of this type of information when other states aren’t??
Which of my facts are you saying shows that I am foaming at the mouth?
You say you think the DOH’s consistent answers saying that Obama’s BC is amended are just incompetence (but believe everything else they say as if they were competent). Fine. Believe what you want. But how do you explain the Factcheck COLB receiving a later certificate number when it was given 3 days earlier than the Nordykes’ numbers?
These are facts, Drew - facts put out by the very people everybody else was saying all along were such credible, authoritative people. Why are any of us “foaming at the mouth kooks who will destroy conservatives’ credibility” because we actually listen to what the DOH IS saying?
Any chance you could ask them for that index data for Obama - see if they have anything on him?
Let's see - you quote "David Manning" and I quote National Review Online. Mhmm. I'll stick with NRO.
That’s why I was looking, although I don’t know if it would be under his name, his mom’s maiden name or under his biological name.
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.
The appearance of being smart? Good Grief.
If you're asking me to accept the opinion at face value of internet bloggers over the reasoned and informed legal opinions of people like Levin, Coulter and Jim DeMint, I'm going to go with the latter every time and I'll sleep better at night because of it.
There is hope at at least for half of you problem.
Go to K-Mart wait until the blue light comes on,race to the counter that has the Metamucil,buy all there is,take it home sprinkle it on your Grape Nuts "liberally" eat several bowls and in less time than it takes to say I love Obamama half of your problems will be solved!
The other half of your problems have to be solved by the mods,sorry.
Yeah thanks, I’m there.
Your response proves my point. I have never once seen you engage with any of the facts I’ve presented. Apparently it’s beneath your dignity.
I’d say try them all. Could be under anything.
I just sent a request. We’ll see what happens. Their Web site says ‘Research by appointment only.’
http://www.kingcounty.gov/operations/archives/vital/birth.aspx
Can’t wait to see the response. Should be interesting. Keep me posted. =)
YEP -- perhaps he's using a different definition for "credible evidence"??? It must include things that he pulls out of the thin ether over his head.
Perhaps the all-knowing deckhand can also cite that law that exists in this country that makes anchor babies Article II "natural born citizens"???
On law, ODH has been correct on pretty much every occasion as to how US law would work in regards to eligibility lawsuits.
On the alleged “facts” surrounding BHO, so many do not hold up under scrutiny.
The multiple SSN’s “fact” is unsupported.
The “fact” of a forged COLB is poorly supported at best.
The list goes on to cover the numerous “facts” that have come and go and come back again such as allegations that his grandmother said he was born in Kenya, his sister had a COLB stating place of birth in Hawaii, Pakistan being closed to Americans in 1981, BHO claiming Kenyan birth in a debate with Keyes, etc... None of it holds water.
Consider:
Earlier you made comparisons to the events of 9/11. Well, do you believe terrorists flew planes into the WTC and that’s why the towers fell?
Well, there are hundreds of websites and blogs run by folks who have convinced themselves otherwise. If you disagree with them, they will tell you that you are ignoring the “facts”.
They construct emotionally pleasing litanies for themselves about how the system is broken. How the government and the media are corrupted and conspiring to cover up the crimes of the Bushies/Israelis/NWO/Bilderbergers/CFR/Venutians and that they and they alone have figured out the truth. That the thousands of people who study this kind of thing for a living do not agree with them only proves how deep the conspiracy goes and how blind everyone else is.
Give it time and watch this issue. You’ll see it continue to go nowhere because there is nowhere for it to go.
Does it even register with you how you segued right through denouncing others for not buying into demonstrable fallacies to insulting them for pointing out your errors?
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