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Establishing a Ready Reserve Corp
democrats.senate.gov ^ | 3-23-2010 | Democrats

Posted on 03/24/2010 8:39:48 AM PDT by Whenifhow

Please check out the provision for a Commissioned Corps and Ready Reserve Corps. in the healthcare bill. I don't know what it has to do with healthcare but it sounds an awful lot like Obama just got his own personal militia.

http://democrats.senate.gov/reform/patient-protection-affordable-ca...

it starts on page 1312.


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To: TankerKC
I found this on a site and would like to find out how you can search the bill to find if this is in it.

What Will Be Considered Mandatory The Federal Government’s proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current. It was also reported that the new health care reform bill was submitted with a provision that those doctors and hospitals who are not “meaningful users” of the new reform system will also be faced with fines and penalties. As well as the Secretary of Health and Human Services will be “permitted to impose more stringent measures of meaningful use over time.”

http://www.youronlineinsurance.com/health-insurance/will-fed-governments-proposed-mandatory-health-insurance-work-141/#comment-9

81 posted on 03/24/2010 10:47:09 AM PDT by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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To: hwkbeer
I am not declaring war on anyone

"Obama wants war lets give it to this butt wipe son of a whore."

You call defending the Constitution murder.How is that so?

"See how long his Corps lasts when they start loosing thousands lying dead in the streets." You don't have a state flag on your user page, but I assume your state's laws prohibit killing human beings except in very carefully defined circumstances. Is the mass killing of public health workers allowed in your state? If not, it is murder. Maybe you don't care about state law and you are answering to a higher power? You can't be acting as a wartime belligerent, since the law of armed conflict protects medical types. A higher power than that, then. Deus vult? And so we come back to jihad.

Are millions who swore an oath to defend the Constitution murderers in your eyes?

If they go on an insane jihad against the Public Health Service, yes. Unlawfully killing a human being makes one a murderer. It doesn't matter if one swore an oath to the Constitution, to Muhammad, or to the Tri-Lambs.

You spent a lot of time on my grammar,Yes I should have corrected that,but you seem like that bothered you more than my calling for the defense of this nation.I wonder about people like you.Drank the Kool aide have you?

You'd fit in at Jonestown better than me. They were paranoid apocalyptics, too. And they didn't bother with the PHS, they bagged a congressman! Not that I'd recommend it, but killing 535 members of Congress would do more to protect the Constitution than killing all 6000 commissioned members of the Public Health Service.

(Note to Echelon: I discourage the above course of action in the strongest possible terms. Please don't send a Predator after me.)

82 posted on 03/24/2010 10:55:09 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: luv2ndamend

I found this on a site and would like to find out how you can search the bill to find if this is in it.

What Will Be Considered Mandatory The Federal Government’s proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current. It was also reported that the new health care reform bill was submitted with a provision that those doctors and hospitals who are not “meaningful users” of the new reform system will also be faced with fines and penalties. As well as the Secretary of Health and Human Services will be “permitted to impose more stringent measures of meaningful use over time.”

http://www.youronlineinsurance.com/health-insurance/will-fed-governments-proposed-mandatory-health-insurance-work-141/#comment-9

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OMG - this is the end game!

Along with the fact they are trying to incite violence so they can impose Martial Law.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2471845/posts?page=30


83 posted on 03/24/2010 10:55:38 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Dead Corpse

Yeah I agree but again I am not advocating any offensive violence only readiness.I wish no one any physical harm and I have hope in our legal system so far.The ballot box and the courts is where this issue belongs first and foremost.However I don’t think you would disagree with being ready just in case.We the people have the right to form militias as found in the 2nd amendment.


84 posted on 03/24/2010 10:57:48 AM PDT by hwkbeer (Socialism is like rust,it's ugly,destructive,and never sleeps)
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To: Lexington Green
Crips and Bloods with badges

That's really just an armed mob/aka live targets according to this old Naval Air Chief.

Besides, how do you suppose anyone could get that sorry bunch more than a half mile out of their own 'hood?

85 posted on 03/24/2010 11:00:27 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (1032 and a wakeup)
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To: hwkbeer

Yeah I agree but again I am not advocating any offensive violence only readiness.I wish no one any physical harm and I have hope in our legal system so far.The ballot box and the courts is where this issue belongs first and foremost.However I don’t think you would disagree with being ready just in case.We the people have the right to form militias as found in the 2nd amendment.

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Regarding readiness
This article talks about state militias. Some states have them already.

Texas has a constitutional militia which actively trains. Vermont’s is almost non existent.

So the states themselves govern the constitutional militia and they follow state, not federal orders.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd479.htm

The author said to hand deliver to congress people at the end of her podcast.


86 posted on 03/24/2010 11:05:26 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Caesar Soze
Again I am not advocating murder in any form.I do say we need to be ready.You seem to trust that anything Obambi is setting up is benign.He could easily morph this thing into an army.Be ready is all that I am saying.Go try and kill some Congressmen and see how far you will get.Jonestown? ha you would fit right in with the sheeple who will one day be herded into a camp.I'm done with your idiocy.You seem to have set down common sense to drink the Kool aide.
87 posted on 03/24/2010 11:07:12 AM PDT by hwkbeer (Socialism is like rust,it's ugly,destructive,and never sleeps)
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To: hwkbeer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

Just a reminder to you before I move on.Don’t be naive or foolish.Put the Kool aide down and get your mind right


88 posted on 03/24/2010 11:23:32 AM PDT by hwkbeer (Socialism is like rust,it's ugly,destructive,and never sleeps)
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To: freedumb2003
The Resistance:

Bring it on.

89 posted on 03/24/2010 11:30:46 AM PDT by Salamander (....and I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.......)
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To: Dead Corpse
Would it have been “murder” for Jews to hunt down SS officers?

That's an interesting question, but hardly analogous to the question at hand. During the Nazi regime, the SS presented a danger to the life of every Jew in Europe. I would consider the killing of an SS in German territory to be an act of self-defense; obviously, the Germans disagreed, and would judge such an act to be murder. There's also the old maxim that it is never murder to kill a tyrant. In a combat zone, the SS would not be covered by the laws of war--they didn't obey the laws, themselves--so the killing of an SS by a nonbelligerent would have been permissible under international law and may or may not have been permissible under municipal law. As in the above case, I'd consider it self-defense or national defense.

After the war, the extrajudicial killing of an SS not in self-defense would be murder. The killer might get off with the jury's sympathy, might not. The killing of an SS by an organ or agent of the State of Israel falls into the gray area of covert action. States can't commit murder, and the officers employed by states to covertly kill their enemies usually have diplomatic immunity. States may practice proportional retribution, and as the state of much of Europe's surviving Jewry, a case could be made that killing SS is an act of legal retribution. (I don't think they did it willy-nilly, either. They tried to bring them back for trial.)

Anyway, it's all a red herring, the Public Health Service has nothing in common with the SS. The SS was the Nazi Party's army. It institutionalized genocide and, in historical terms, was deemed criminal and destroyed almost as soon as it appeared. The PHS is the Federal government's medical agency and has existed, in one form or another, since 1798. Its officers are commissioned in accordance with Article II, Section 3 of the US Constitution, and the organization's existence stems from Article II, Section 8's authorization to provide for a navy. (The Public Health Service used to be the Marine Health Service; its scope broadened when we started figuring out how diseases are transmitted.) There might be something wrong with the Commissioned Corps of the PHS, but the comparison to the SS is unconscionable. The other poster's call for thousands of murders is obscene.

90 posted on 03/24/2010 11:42:55 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: patriot preacher

that is Obama Corpse thank you!


91 posted on 03/24/2010 11:46:29 AM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: luv2ndamend

To find out if this is in the bill, try looking on this website:

http://www.breakitapart.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page


92 posted on 03/24/2010 11:46:59 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

Thank you!


93 posted on 03/24/2010 11:48:16 AM PDT by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

It’s in the welfare and free goodies clause


94 posted on 03/24/2010 11:58:31 AM PDT by boxlunch
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To: Whenifhow

http://politicaljules.com/2009/08/03/obamacare-changes-include-creation-of-a-citzen-corps-army/


95 posted on 03/24/2010 12:06:45 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: luv2ndamend

In a 2700 page bill, it appears Obama slipped in the framework for his quasi protection force.


96 posted on 03/24/2010 12:07:41 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jerrybob

I hear ya but I don’t think the IRS agents would be called this.

If they are we need to educate all on the words GESTAPO
and brown coats.


97 posted on 03/24/2010 12:08:44 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: luv2ndamend

Here is an article from last August telling about this!

http://politicaljules.com/2009/08/03/obamacare-changes-include-creation-of-a-citzen-corps-army/


98 posted on 03/24/2010 12:10:58 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: hwkbeer
Again I am not advocating murder in any form.

Simply the extrajudicial killing of civilian medical professionals. Got it. Nothing murderous about that at all. It's a time-honored tradition.

I do say we need to be ready.You seem to trust that anything Obambi is setting up is benign.

Obama didn't set up the Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Grover Cleveland did. And that was just a reorganization of a system signed into law by John Adams. For all of Obama's many sins, no one has advanced one single credible claim in this thread that he has made the PHS into some kind of threat.

He could easily morph this thing into an army.

"Easily?" The Commissioned Corps has about 6000 officers; 1000 physicians, 1400 nurses, and the rest are pharmacists, dietitians, shrinks, therapists, vets, etc. Do you have any idea how much time, work, materiel, and money it would take to turn a cadre of 6000 civilian medical professionals into an army? Don't you think most medical professionals that would want to be in an army would have joined the Army instead of the PHS? Why would Obama go about creating an army out of a civilian organization with no military training or warrior ethos when he already has the US Armed Forces, every 1811 federal agent, and the entire Intelligence Community already working for him? (Not to mention the Democratic Party, ACORN, COI, SEIU, and the mainstream media.)

Besides, what kind of Army wears Navy uniforms?

Be ready is all that I am saying.Go try and kill some Congressmen and see how far you will get.Jonestown? ha you would fit right in with the sheeple who will one day be herded into a camp.I'm done with your idiocy.You seem to have set down common sense to drink the Kool aide.

Spew all the insults you want, it doesn't upset me, I am rubber you are glue. All I ask is that you think before you address matters of national policy, maybe do a little research before your next call to arms.

99 posted on 03/24/2010 12:11:39 PM PDT by Caesar Soze
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To: Whenifhow

Ah Zero must be a devotee of the National Socialist of Germany in the 30’s.

I wonder how much longer we will be allowed to view FR?


100 posted on 03/24/2010 12:11:59 PM PDT by Marty62 ( Marty60)
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