Why everything you've been told about evolution is wrong (now this is weird)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/mar/19/evolution-darwin-natural-selection-genes-wrong ^

[chessplayer]

What if Darwin's theory of natural selection is inaccurate? What if the way you live now affects the life expectancy of your descendants?

[celmak]

ping

[Uncle Miltie]

“You shall not prostrate yourself to them nor worship them, for I am Hashem, your G-d - a jealous G-d, Who visits the sin of the fathers upon children to the third and fourth generations, for My enemies”

- Exodus, 20:5

[celmak]

Yet epigenetics suggests this isn't the whole story. If what happens to you during your lifetime – living in a stress-inducing henhouse, say, or overeating in northern Sweden – can affect how your genes express themselves in future generations, the absolutely simple version of natural selection begins to look questionable."

Hmmm...

[Tucker39]

Help me out here. My one and only daughter was born when I was 26 years old and in svelte, trim and fit condition. The genetics I passed on to her were the best they could ever be.

In subsequent years I kind-of let down my guard, hit the smorgasbord a little too often, worked in a fairly high pressure business and never got more than 6 hours sleep a night in the last 50 years. Possible detrimental influences on my genes.

Please tell me in what way that will affect my grandchildren.
Thanks

[fanfan]

Will these twinkies make my daughter’s butt look big?

[ExpatGator]

Hey! Quit being logical!!!!

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

“Who visits the sin of the fathers upon children to the third and fourth generations, for My enemies”

Yup, you over-eat and gorge yourself, you wind up with kids that have heart disease, diabetes, cancer etc and die young - to the third and fourth generations.

And that btw is not intended to be a put down to your post. I agree with you, and I believe that even as God was in control in those times, he is now. The sun did stand still (the earth stopped rotating) and that day was lost. And so on. The whole point of evolutionary argument is to ‘prove’ that there is no God.

[winoneforthegipper]

There are those that believe that beside disease/bugs you catch from another via casual contact, you also are subjected to a dose of their DNA.

Think of it like a process not unlike a dog sniffin a newcomer mutt's tailwind.

There is much to be said to this thinking that has yet to be written but suffice it is to say, highly plausible.

It explains many things from “group think” to collapse walled off societies.

[celmak]

Don’t ask me this yet; I’m still trying to figure out the article... ???

[Maelstorm]

This is not new only ignored. There has been evidence for lamarkian processes in evolution for the past 20 years or more. Evolution has faced the same kind of leftist narrow often idiotic interpretation that we see coming out of environmental and social sciences. We live in generation where the information is everywhere and few comprehend the significance of anything.

[aruanan]

Wow, that article was almost as long as a pre-trib rapture piece.

[Popman]

The Swedish chicken study was one of several recent breakthroughs in the youthful field of epigenetics, which primarily studies the epigenome, the protective package of proteins around which genetic material – strands of DNA – is wrapped. The epigenome plays a crucial role in determining which genes actually express themselves in a creature's traits: in effect, it switches certain genes on or off, or turns them up or down in intensity. It isn't news that the environment can alter the epigenome; what's news is that those changes can be inherited. And this doesn't, of course, apply only to chickens: some of the most striking findings come from research involving humans.

This can explain why certain households in this country have generational problems even with the best intentions fail to correct.

Very interesting theory

[metmom]

What if Darwin's theory of evolution – or, at least, Darwin's theory of evolution as most of us learned it at school and believe we understand it – is, in crucial respects, not entirely accurate?

Such talk, naturally, is liable to drive evolutionary biologists into a rage, or, in the case of Richard Dawkins, into even more of a rage than usual. They have a point: nobody wants to provide ammunition to the proponents of creationism or "intelligent design", and it's true that few of the studies now coming to public prominence are all that revolutionary to the experts.

But, but, but,.... what about consensus? And peer review?

[metmom]

I recall hearing recently, in the last couple years, that if a woman smokes during her pregnancy, that her grandchildren, who had never been exposed to the cigarette smoke directly, stood a greater than average chance of developing asthma.

My m-i-l, who is not a Christian or creationist, was concerned about this and felt bad thinking that something she did may have contributed to the potential for asthma in our kids.

[metmom]

If you read the article and understand about passing things on genetically, you’d realize that they’re talking about children conceived after the stress.

How would your daughter, who was conceived and born when you weren’t under stress, pass on possible genetic problems that occurred to you after her birth?

[r9etb]

In subsequent years I kind-of let down my guard, hit the smorgasbord a little too often, worked in a fairly high pressure business and never got more than 6 hours sleep a night in the last 50 years. Possible detrimental influences on my genes. Please tell me in what way that will affect my grandchildren.

They might hate being around you.... ;-)

[metmom]

The Swedish chicken study was one of several recent breakthroughs in the youthful field of epigenetics, which primarily studies the epigenome, the protective package of proteins around which genetic material – strands of DNA – is wrapped. The epigenome plays a crucial role in determining which genes actually express themselves in a creature's traits: in effect, it switches certain genes on or off, or turns them up or down in intensity. It isn't news that the environment can alter the epigenome; what's news is that those changes can be inherited. And this doesn't, of course, apply only to chickens: some of the most striking findings come from research involving humans.

What's interesting, is that in light of how environment can affect genes to generations down the road, much of what God instituted in the Law, begins to make a lot more sense. As do the continual references to curses being passed down to the third and fourth generations.

[metmom]

But Lamarck was scorned for a much more general apparent mistake: the idea that lifestyle might be able to influence heredity. "Today," notes David Shenk, "any high school student knows that genes are passed on unchanged from parent to child, and to the next generation and the next. Lifestyle cannot alter heredity. Except now it turns out that it can . . ."

Time to rewrite the biology textbooks.

[wendy1946]

What if Darwin's theory of natural selection is inaccurate?

What if evolution is a bunch of brain-dead BS....