Posted on 03/10/2010 1:08:06 PM PST by Pilsner
Democracy by Slaughter [Daniel Foster]
The sense around here for the last week or so has been that "only the House vote matters" in deciding the fate of Obamacare. But what if the Democrats can pass the bill with no House vote at all?
Astoundingly, House Democrats appear to be preparing to do just that:
House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday.
Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version. (emphasis added)
Slaughter has not taken the plan to Speaker Pelosi as Democrats await CBO scores on the corrections bill. "Once the CBO gives us the score we'll spring right on it," she said. . . .
House members are concerned the Senate could fail to approve the corrections bill, making them nervous about passing the Senate bill with its much-maligned sweetheart deals for certain states. "We're well beyond that," Pelosi said Tuesday, though she did not clarify.
That the Democrats could take this extraordinary step to avoid passing the Senate bill tells you that they have zero trust in the Senate to pass reconciliation "fixes," and zero trust in the president not to sign the Senate bill should it reach his desk and a reconciliation effort collapse. But most crucially, it gives the lie in a big, big way to the Democratic narrative that health-care reform should and will be finished via simple "majority rule," and not bound up in the arcane rules of the United States Senate.
The National Journal story is at http://www.nationaljournal.com/congressdaily/hca_20100310_2179.php?mrefid=site_search, but it is available only to subscribers.
Don't you just love the Wicked Witch of the West ?
I agree. But... There is the "enrolled bill" rule. Meaning that the Supreme Court has ruled that once the leaders of the House and Senate formally attest that a bill was passed by the House and Senate, the Courts cannot go back and second guess them. That is a good rule if the House and Senate aren't run by a bunch of crooks. If they are...
I'm not a pitch fork kind of guy, but if they can do this, why do we bother having rules?
We are entering the slippery slope phase now.....Oligarchy the rule of the few, and those few are generally the people who are wealthier or more powerful than the others. Sometimes they may be elected, and sometimes they are born into their position. The most likely mechanism for transformation into an Oligarchy is a gradual accumulation of unchecked economic power. They know exactly what they are doing. They will never get this close again, they have awakened a sleeping giant... WE the PEOPLE. If we don’t stop them now, soon there will be anarchy.
There will be a revolution and this nation’s traitors will be dealt with ruthlessly and harshly.
all those who do not want to oppose this bill by refusing to not say “aye”, please indicate this by remaining seated...
uh.............right............
Do they want open season declared on congress critters or what? I can’t beleive they think that this is ok to do?
L&L’ed
They don’t want to go on record because they hope there might be one or two of their voters who won’t blame them anyway.
WRONG, TARDS, you WILL be blamed because you did not stop this disaster. There won’t be any hand washing if this gets passed. You can forget that.
How many Americans have to tell you “not no, but hell no” for how long before you finally get it? We aren’t going to like it afterwards, we all know it will be worse than the care we have now - if it wasn’t going to be worse congress critters would be enrolled in it too.
AND afterwards we will immediately have our taxes raised for something we do NOT WANT with the so called “reward” that we DON’T want, years down the road.
I sent the NRO Link to Mark Levin’s facebook pace, which I understand he watches. Hopefully if he didn’t know about this, he does now.
I think it's in the back of many people's minds.
Laws without votes.
I certainly hope the SCOTUS would throw it out, whats next elections without voters?
Stealing 1/6th of the economy without a vote is probably the craziest thing I ever heard.
Should lead to civil war, but then again if “say yes” sex-ed for elementary kids didn’t do it, nothing will cause a revolt.
Kevin Jennings and all that...
Here’s another one... You know its getting tax dollars somehow
“Just Say yes” (to sex) for kids... nice
http://www.positive.org/Home/index.html
No revolt??
Unconstitutional and insane.
It’s “hook or crook”, naked in the showers, slime ‘em and butter ‘em up for the basting.
I heard Hannity discussing this seriously today. No FRiend, we are at the gate of I Clavdivs. It seems harmless on the surface, but character assassination ends with physical assassination.
This is one for the ...
THUG-O-CRAT hit list [shocking links and headlines]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2464640/posts?page=4
This could easily end up worse than if they vote. Such a maneuver would be considered a unanimous vote by the democrats and everyone of them would be held responsible.
First of all, this is from the Denture Lady but it is a legitimate news story.
Second, the GOP should make the point that the Slaughter Solution means that the Dems have become unhinged and are turning the US into a banana republic.
Finally, make the analogy for the American people. You are caught stealing from your neighbor’s house and when you are hauled into court, you tell the judge that the items were just assumed stolen.
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