Posted on 03/05/2010 4:09:43 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
Why is he doing this? Why let "health" "care" "reform" stagger on like the rotting husk in a low-grade creature feature who refuses to stay dead no matter how many stakes you pound through his chest?
Because it's worth it. Big time. I've been saying in this space for two years that the governmentalization of health care is the fastest way to a permanent left-of-center political culture. It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible. In most of the rest of the Western world, there are still nominally "conservative" parties, and they even win elections occasionally, but not to any great effect (Let's not forget that Jacques Chirac was, in French terms, a "conservative").
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Doesn’t matter. The Constitution means what 5 people in black robes say it means. If the people in black robes say 2 + 2 = 5 then for the legal definition it does, despite the anarchy it engenders. There’s no substitute for common sense.
I seldom disagree with Steyn, but I do on this.
It is not because of lack of will from Republicans to undo entitlements, it has been because of lack of power.
Republicans have never had a conservative majority...period. Without one, you cannot undo entitlements. There is no point in bitching about it.
All Republicans have been able to do the last thirty years is slow down the Democrats, and block power grabs like this one.....now they can’t even do that.
That’s the American people’s fault, not the Republicans. When “conservatives” turned their back on GWB and the Republicans of 2004, it opened the door for this. Conservatives forgot who the real enemy was, and that fifty percent of voters simply vote for who gives them the most goodies (Democrats).
Maybe now, just maybe, Obama and the Dem’s hubris will give us that majority, however, I doubt it. Even so, it will be impossible to repeal Healthcare with Obama in office. Nothing can be done about it until 2013 at the earliest, and that is too late.
Conservatives were warned what was at stake, but pet issues were more important. Now, we aren’t going to get a second chance....I hope everyone likes being treated like cattle, ‘cause that’s whats going to happen.
touche
Do you think all those pissed off will suddenly desire a return to a constitutional republic and do without the gravy? Half or more of those pissed off people will want more government, not less.
As I saw someone else post, the tree of liberty thirsts.
It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible.
Bears repeating:
It redefines the relationship between the citizen and the state in fundamental ways that make limited government all but impossible.
Conservatives were warned what was at stake, but pet issues were more important. Now, we aren’t going to get a second chance....I hope everyone likes being treated like cattle, ‘cause that’s whats going to happen.
Thank you
Part of his "genius" is evident in his ability to use "to" and "too" correctly.
Mark Steyn is the closest thing we have now to W F Buckley: someone you might want to learn about. Someone who can extol the virtues of conservative capitalism and the vices of marxist bammy on a level that can convert the uninformed (aka government school grads) over to "OUR" side if you will allow it.
Buckley and a handful of other opinion leaders rallied conservatism from near death after Goldwater (someone you also might want to consider reviewing in retrospect) and brought us eventually into the Reagan Era at just the right time.
You are effectively doing the opposite, unleashing fire at people who are on America's side in this war for the Republic.
Tinpot keyboardists fragging a great writer like Steyn do the Dems more good than a hundred DUers do for their own cause.
Pull your head out and dress the rank and drink a big cup of stfu.
That's an interesting reminder. Because it didn't mean that the tree of liberty will always be watered with the blood of patriots. Just that in order for it to survive, it must be so 'watered.'
IOW, if the wait is too long, then the tree slowly dies, and once dead, can do nothing but burn.
Yikes!
Part of his “genius” is evident in his ability to use “to” and “too” correctly.
I think you would call this basic English.
SLAP!!!!
Yes, you checkmated me with this:
“You are effectively doing the opposite, unleashing fire at people who are on America's side in this war for the Republic.
Tinpot keyboardists fragging a great writer like Steyn do the Dems more good than a hundred DUers do for their own cause.”
You are right of course.
You really need to wake up and smell the coffee. Who was it that got us halfway to socialized medicine in the first place?
George W. Bush, with his prescription-drug benefit program, that’s who!
And you really think that the party of ‘Communist-lite’ ideology is really going to do anything about this? Yeah, in your dreams!
Welfare reform act of 1996.
Well elections do have Consequencesas Ed Koch Once said we Had an election the people Threw me out now the people must suffer.
Obamacare is going down. - Self interest is a big facet of liberalism, and those congress critters don’t want to become civilians.
I agree, It’s a pipe dream to think that a republican congress can or would undo the mess that Obama is pushing on us. Republicans are not by definition, “conservative”, though some conservatives are republicans.
Snowe and Collins in Maine and McCain in Arizona and others. Here in Illinois we already have our “republican” nominee for the senate race in Nov. current Representative in the House, Mark Kirk, a more liberal candidate you’ll never find and people think these jokers will ever repeal anything?
Historically it doesn’t happen, government welfare programs only get bigger and bigger.
By the way, I will not vote for Mark Kirk, just as I will never vote for Mitt Romney.
Ok, I’ll play...besides extremely being critical of a fairly concise, well-written article that makes many valid points, WHAT exactly are you doing to stop healthcare reform? That is a serious, sincere question.
A straight-forward answer without changing the subject, ad hominem attacks or any mention of FR account sign-up dates would be greatly appreciated.
thanks
For the GOP to repeal this legislation, it would not only have to get control of congress, but also have enough votes to override a certain Obama veto.
That’s very unlikely.
If there is a GOP President and a GOP Congress in 2013, then it may be done, but it is still unlikely, as the GOP would need a supermajority in the Senate to prevent a Democrat filibuster.
Kill it now.
You are correct, and it has always been that way. Republicans as a party are just more conservative than Democrats have been (since Reagan).
I also agree that once government health care is in, it is in to stay.....
At this point, simply voting your conscience isn't going to hurt or help....so go for it. We aren't going to get the 3 trillion spent by Obama back, just as the lives lost in Afghanistan because of Obama's ROE's can't be recovered. Regardless of who is in office, it will be years before our economy recovers.
This is the saddest time for America in my life. Even Clinton (as dumb as he was) wasn't hell bent on destroying our country.
The Constitution means what the Constitution says it means.
He keeps getting more and more stupid. He is one of the most overrated conservative personality. He is always unfocused. He laughs at his own stupid jokes. He cannot concentrate on one issue without going on multiple issues that have nothing to do with the issue he started. This article is an example of his stupidity.
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