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Class Warfare's Next Target: 401(k) Savings
Investors.com ^ | February 17, 2010 | NEWT GINGRICH AND PETER FERRARA

Posted on 02/17/2010 5:40:59 PM PST by Kaslin

You did the responsible thing. You saved in your IRA or 401(k) to support your retirement, when you could have spent that money on another vacation, or an upscale car, or fancier clothes and jewelry. But now Washington is developing plans for your retirement savings.

BusinessWeek reports that the Treasury and Labor departments are asking for public comment on "the conversion of 401(k) savings and Individual Retirement Accounts into annuities or other steady payment streams."

In plain English, the idea is for the government to take your retirement savings in return for a promise to pay you some monthly benefit in your retirement years.

They will tell you that you are "investing" your money in U.S. Treasury bonds. But they will use your money immediately to pay for their unprecedented trillion-dollar budget deficits, leaving nothing to back up their political promises, just as they have raided the Social Security trust funds.

This "conversion" may start out as an optional choice, though you are already free to buy Treasury bonds whenever you want. But as Karl Denninger of the Market Ticker Web site reports: "'Choices' have a funny way of turning into mandates, and this looks to me like a raw admission that Treasury knows it will not be able to sell its debt in the open market — so they will effectively tax you by forcing your 'retirement' money to buy them."

Moreover, benefits based on Treasury bond interest rates may be woefully inadequate compensation for your years of savings. As Denninger adds, "What's even worse is that the government has intentionally suppressed Treasury yields during this crisis (and will keep doing so by various means, including manipulating the CPI inflation index) so as to guarantee that you lose over time compared to actual purchasing power."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 401k; classwarfare; cluelessindc; communism; cwii; cwiiping; democrat; democrats; impeachobama; ira; liberalfascism; lping; obama; savings; socialism; socialists; spreadingthewealth; trustfund; tyranny
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1 posted on 02/17/2010 5:40:59 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I already have the option to go with an annuity at retirement. What they’re really saying is they want limit your choices to just T-bond based annuities.


2 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:04 PM PST by BipolarBob (Gravity. It's not just the law it's a good idea.)
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To: Kaslin

Why am I not surprised.

Anytime a government sees a pile of cash, they immediately start looking for ways to get it.


3 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:10 PM PST by Ronin
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To: Kaslin

I already have the option to go with an annuity at retirement. What they’re really saying is they want limit your choices to just T-bond based annuities.


4 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:11 PM PST by BipolarBob (Gravity. It's not just the law it's a good idea.)
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To: Kaslin

This is a taking prohibited under the constitution, so I presume that Kennedy will go for it.


5 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:40 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Kaslin

This would bring on a revolution.


6 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:43 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Kaslin

The present administration and all who support it are thieves.

I don’t eat wagyu. You in DC can’t have the savings I have and build because you want my money.


7 posted on 02/17/2010 5:43:47 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ll burn mine to stay warm before I give it to a commie muslim from kenya.

LLS


8 posted on 02/17/2010 5:44:02 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Ronin

Anytime a government sees a pile of cash, they immediately start looking for ways to get it.

Unless of course, it’s a big union pension plan. Then it’s untouchable, because they all earned it, unlike those rich folks with 401Ks.


9 posted on 02/17/2010 5:45:35 PM PST by Sir Clancelot
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To: Kaslin

It’s the only money left. I was waiting for something like this...


10 posted on 02/17/2010 5:46:10 PM PST by bronxville
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To: Kaslin

They are very clever. They seem to be applying more and more pressure to incite violence. Then.....martial law.


11 posted on 02/17/2010 5:46:12 PM PST by clintonh8r (Nobody's 'bot!!)
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To: AndyJackson
This is a taking prohibited under the constitution, so I presume that Kennedy will go for it.

Who?

12 posted on 02/17/2010 5:46:59 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: Kaslin

I’ll cash out, take the penalty and convert it to steel and lead.


13 posted on 02/17/2010 5:47:16 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: BipolarBob

Let me be the first to say....Norfolk-n- way.


14 posted on 02/17/2010 5:48:02 PM PST by muddler (Obama is either incompetent or malicious, and it makes little difference which.)
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To: Sir Clancelot

The treasury dept wants my comments...where do I sign up to tell them to go to hell. Before I let these crooks get their paws on my cash I will take the 10% penalty and keep the rest.


15 posted on 02/17/2010 5:48:27 PM PST by JohnD9207 (REGISTERED RIGHT WING THUG!)
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To: Kaslin

Given what these characters did to Social Security, there’s no way in hell they’re getting their hands on 401Ks. They’ll have to pry it from my cold,dead hands.


16 posted on 02/17/2010 5:49:09 PM PST by mkmensinger
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To: Kaslin

If everyone hasn’t seen this coming, then they are blind or drunk. Maybe both. IRAs and 401(k)’s represent too much money that Uncle Sam doesn’t control and they don’t like that. The Dems are watering at the mouth to get control of this money in one big grab.
Hell, if they would pay off the debt, maybe I could understand it. Not like it or not fight it. But they will take this money and buy off those who blindly vote for them now.


17 posted on 02/17/2010 5:49:10 PM PST by rustyboots
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To: Kaslin

This has been talked about for a while. Not surprised, just wondering what is next that the Fed will take?


18 posted on 02/17/2010 5:49:17 PM PST by luv2ndamend (They call themselves greens because they're too yellow to admit they're reds.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Good thinking Slim.

Commodities are hot. ;)


19 posted on 02/17/2010 5:49:27 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: ought-six

I hope they pay attention....this could be the proverbial straw which breaks the camels’ back.

Heaven help us all.


20 posted on 02/17/2010 5:49:28 PM PST by LFOD (Presently - Back in Dixie)
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