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A Stability Police Force for the United States: RAND CORP CALLS FOR NATIONAL POLICE FORCE???
RAND COPORATION ^ | 2009 | By: Terrence K. Kelly, Seth G. Jones, James E. Barnett, Keith Crane, Robert C. Davis, Carl Jensen

Posted on 01/12/2010 6:29:19 AM PST by RaceBannon

I know someone who purchased this from RAND.

By page 19 this report goes from discussing the need for a Special Police Force overseas to supplement interventions, to suddenly needing a force that can circumvent Posse Comitatus.

Posse Comitatus exists for a reason and any attempt to circumvent it, not matter how nicely packaged, is a step on the way to "Special" police becoming "Secret" police.

They call it :A STABILITY POLICE FORCE: This study asks several questions. First, is a Stability Police Force (SPF) necessary? An SPF is a high-end police force that engages in a range of tasks such as crowd and riot control, special weapons and tactics (SWAT), and investigations of organized criminal groups. In its ability to operate in stability operations, it is similar to such European forces as the Italian Carabinieri and French Gendarmerie. Its focus on highend tasks makes it fundamentally different from UN or other civilian police, who deal with more routine law and order functions. It is also different from most military forces, which are generally not trained and experienced to conduct policing tasks in a civilian environment. Second, if an SPF is necessary, what should it look like? This includes considering such issues as: its objectives, tasks, and size; its speed of deployment; its institutional capabilities; where it should be headquartered in the U.S. government and how it should be staffed (standing force, reserve force, and hybrid force); and its cost.


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To: DariusBane

A Faustian bargain to be sure.


201 posted on 01/12/2010 11:07:48 AM PST by VR-21 ("If it's a vision of the future you want....")
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To: Little Ray

“willing to kill them?”

“Them” will include the children, wives, mothers, fathers and friends of soldiers, Marines, Sailors and airmen.

How will those manning tanks and gunships killing “them” make out against the 1st MarDiv, the 101st Airborne and a few attack squadrons from the Air Force?


202 posted on 01/12/2010 11:12:38 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Ticonderoga34

“The Internet and phone lines would be shut down under the guise of not letting the terrorists communicate with each other,”

Ok, I’ve brought this up before....
We better start planning this now because the FBI/NSA etc. is reading everything we post and they know where you live!
How do we communicate effectively without the convenience
of FreeRepublic?

But if this happens and we start to see the “brown shirts” we know how to respond.


203 posted on 01/12/2010 11:16:47 AM PST by vanilla swirl (Maranatha!)
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To: GeronL

“Don’t worry soon everyone will spend 2 years of National Service, as serfs to the fedgov. They own us after all.”

What a very misguided statement for you to make. If a person is in the 35% Federal tax bracket and pays another 15% in state and local taxes he works the first 6 months of EVERY year as a slave to the collective.

We are not heading towards slavery my friend were are hanve have been already there.


204 posted on 01/12/2010 11:20:34 AM PST by stockpirate (While freedom fighters in Iran die for freedom, conservatives do nothing while our freedom is lost)
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To: Turbo Pig

I recently read here on FR that there are 12 BILLION rounds of ammo in public hands!


205 posted on 01/12/2010 11:23:05 AM PST by stockpirate (While freedom fighters in Iran die for freedom, conservatives do nothing while our freedom is lost)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The Council of Governors would control the National Guard which, theoretically, would be in a position to confront well-armed hunters.”

That’s a problem, too. Will the Georgia National Guard invade Florida to round up the Florida National Guard?

That would be a real killer concerning intra-service unity and cooperation. You’d have national guard units completely out of command control and at each other’s throats. You’re talking civil war. Washington DC would be burned to the ground.


206 posted on 01/12/2010 11:25:59 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: stockpirate

Right. They’ll just make it even more official.

3rd world status is coming.


207 posted on 01/12/2010 11:27:19 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: The Comedian

Dark Lord Sauron Obama and his troops will be out gunned and outnumbered.


208 posted on 01/12/2010 11:29:23 AM PST by stockpirate (While freedom fighters in Iran die for freedom, conservatives do nothing while our freedom is lost)
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To: Little Ray

“What are rioters going to do when they’re confronted by tanks, IFVs, and and helicopter gunships manned by folks perfectly willing to kill them?”

Who says they’d be perfectly willing to kill them? Are they going to staff the forces with foreigners? Cops love cracking skulls and national guardsmen have been known to fire on unarmed civilians. But pitched battle is different. The men shooting at us will still be Americans, and may not enjoy slaughter. Then again, the boys in the blue shirts didn’t mind raping Atlanta and the Shenandoah Valley, so who knows?


209 posted on 01/12/2010 11:30:48 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: rintense

“Looks like we should be heading to Texas soon.”


Come on down! Bring all your friends and kin!


210 posted on 01/12/2010 11:32:21 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: The Comedian; Little Ray

And if you take those 200,000,000 armed Americans you could put 4,000,000 in each state capitol. Someone posted here not too long ago that there are 12 BILLION rounds of ammo in the hands of said Americans.


211 posted on 01/12/2010 11:34:07 AM PST by stockpirate (While freedom fighters in Iran die for freedom, conservatives do nothing while our freedom is lost)
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To: sergeantdave
Obama's executive order contains this as one of the goals of the Council of Governors: "synchronization and integration of State and Federal military activities in the United States"

I seriously think he's looking for a second civil war. He's making bad choices because they are bad. He wants it to all fall apart. His goal is the transformation of America.

If he can touch this off, he wins. He doesn't have to conquer states, pacify areas, esstablish a working (?!) communist dictatorship. None of that sort of "success" is necessary.

If Obama can get part of the American government to start shooting at the other part of the American government, then he had achieved his purpose. We will be damaged and other countries will have a chance to get a bigger piece of the pie. American exceptionalism will be ended.

212 posted on 01/12/2010 11:34:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Chickensoup
Oathkeepers sounds like a good place for the Leftists to get a list of the first to eliminate/imprison.

Fortunately for us we know how the Gov/Mil/LEO works, so its just a matter of preparation. Another plus is that we still have MANY like minded friends still "embedded" within the services.

Uncle Sugar trained us well and I don't think they would take the chance of completely alienating the Mil/LEO Members and Veterans... Sooner or later the word would get out and they would have a new world of hurt coming down on them.

213 posted on 01/12/2010 11:36:30 AM PST by AvOrdVet ("Put the wagons in a circle for all the good it'll do")
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To: Chickensoup

“just making sure that the elections are not rigged”

Joseph Stalin said it isn’t who votes but who counts the votes.


214 posted on 01/12/2010 11:39:22 AM PST by stockpirate (The time will come when we least expect it, be prepared to act when it does.)
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To: stockpirate

“Joseph Stalin said it isn’t who votes but who counts the votes.”

And that old snake Soros is positioning the Secretaries of State to count those votes for the commies.


215 posted on 01/12/2010 11:42:08 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: GeronL; All

You know why have only 10 governors on the council? Then I thought about the Bible and the 10 kings....hmmmmm.

Nahhhhhhh!


216 posted on 01/12/2010 11:42:23 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: ctdonath2

“18,000,000 participate in deer season. Think about it.”

WOW, I haven’t owned a firearm in over 35 years, November 2008 I changed that and have 1,000 rounds to go with it, 12ga #2 steel high-velocity 3” shells.


217 posted on 01/12/2010 11:43:47 AM PST by stockpirate (The time will come when we least expect it, be prepared to act when it does.)
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To: DuncanWaring

If they come for me they will not return.


218 posted on 01/12/2010 11:45:57 AM PST by stockpirate (The time will come when we least expect it, be prepared to act when it does.)
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To: mdmathis6

It’s 10 Governors. Chosen by the President? 5 leftists and 5 RINO’s. They’ll meet at the behest of the President.


219 posted on 01/12/2010 11:47:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards,com)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I agree once the Dems rig the 2010 elections they (the Dems) think they will need the Police force


220 posted on 01/12/2010 11:51:43 AM PST by okokie
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