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Single-payer health care plan dies in Senate
http://news.aol.com/article/gop-delay-tactics-slow-dems-on-health/808110?cid=12 ^ | 5 mins ago | AP

Posted on 12/16/2009 3:21:05 PM PST by jessduntno

WASHINGTON -The liberals' longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies "are no longer needed." Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one "which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering that is engendered by the private insurance companies." His remarks drew handshakes and even a hug or two from Democrats who had filed into the Senate to hear him. Sanders acknowledged the proposal lacked the votes to pass, and he chose to withdraw it after Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., exercised his prerogative and required Senate clerks to begin reading the 767-page proposal aloud to a nearly empty chamber. After three hours, they were 139 pages into it. The political theater came as the White House and Senate Democrats sought an agreement with Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., to become the 60th supporter of President Barack Obama's health care overhaul — the number needed to overcome a Republican filibuster. The Nebraska lawmaker told reporters he was reviewing a proposal to toughen abortion restrictions in the legislation, one of the changes he is seeking. Nelson said the compromise negotiated by anti-abortion Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., involves attempt to separate private and public funds, an approach that in the past failed to sway the Nebraska moderate and Catholic bishops. Asked whether the new language was satisfactory, Nelson said, "I don't know at this point in time. Constituency groups haven't responded back yet." Nelson emerged as the lone known holdout among 60 Democrats and independents earlier in the week after Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., forced supporters of the bill to remove a proposed Medicare expansion.

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1 posted on 12/16/2009 3:21:06 PM PST by jessduntno
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To: jessduntno

WASHINGTON -The liberals’ longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies “are no longer needed.”

Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one “which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering that is engendered by the private insurance companies.” His remarks drew handshakes and even a hug or two from Democrats who had filed into the Senate to hear him.

Sanders acknowledged the proposal lacked the votes to pass, and he chose to withdraw it after Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., exercised his prerogative and required Senate clerks to begin reading the 767-page proposal aloud to a nearly empty chamber. After three hours, they were 139 pages into it.

The political theater came as the White House and Senate Democrats sought an agreement with Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., to become the 60th supporter of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul — the number needed to overcome a Republican filibuster.

The Nebraska lawmaker told reporters he was reviewing a proposal to toughen abortion restrictions in the legislation, one of the changes he is seeking. Nelson said the compromise negotiated by anti-abortion Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., involves attempt to separate private and public funds, an approach that in the past failed to sway the Nebraska moderate and Catholic bishops.
Asked whether the new language was satisfactory, Nelson said, “I don’t know at this point in time. Constituency groups haven’t responded back yet.”

Nelson emerged as the lone known holdout among 60 Democrats and independents earlier in the week after Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., forced supporters of the bill to remove a proposed Medicare expansion.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 3:22:08 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: Admin Moderator

can you swap #2 With story lead?
I know that formatting is our friend.
Thanks and sorry...


3 posted on 12/16/2009 3:23:26 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: jessduntno

Single-payer health care plan dies in Senate
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Quick drive a stake through its heart

dig a hole and bury it with about a ton of garlic

Put lots of dirt and a big slab of concrete on top of it


4 posted on 12/16/2009 3:26:14 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: jessduntno
"The liberals' longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies 'are no longer needed.'"

LOL
Hopefully, *bernie*, you'll be longggggg gone by then. LOL

Won't believe this 'til I see Dingy Harry, Pelousy and 4 of their hand picked quislings carrying a casket clearly marked in bold English, "Health Care Reform".

Otherwise, just more lies by the same ol' liars. LOL

5 posted on 12/16/2009 3:26:49 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; FBD; 1776 Reborn; Liz
>ping<

For a laugh. :o)

6 posted on 12/16/2009 3:27:38 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: jessduntno

HHS Secretary Sebelius Announces: HHS has the authority to implement single payer plan by adjusting parameters for Medicare.

(Law, we don’t need no stinking law)


7 posted on 12/16/2009 3:33:31 PM PST by updatedscreenname
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To: Landru; jessduntno; Liz

Laugh is right LMhairyBO!

“Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies “are no longer needed.” Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one “which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering that is engendered by the private insurance companies.”

Let us see now.....private companies who must be efficient to make a profit waste HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But the federal government which DESTROYS money, will SAVE billions of dollars. Uh, Bernie? You have been dead for many years........LIE DOWN!!!!


8 posted on 12/16/2009 3:36:06 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: Landru
His remarks drew handshakes and even a hug or two from Democrats who had filed into the Senate to hear him.

Touching, isn't it?

9 posted on 12/16/2009 3:36:13 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: Tennessee Nana

Shoot it with a silver bullet just to make sure ;-)


10 posted on 12/16/2009 3:37:25 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: updatedscreenname
"HHS Secretary Sebelius Announces: HHS has the authority to implement single payer plan by adjusting parameters for Medicare."

Ahhhhhhhhh yet another end-around, ala the EPA eh?

Bring it on, this is rapidly morphing into more *fun* than anyone could've possibly imagined. LOL

11 posted on 12/16/2009 3:37:56 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: jessduntno

Profit is the price of incentive. Absent the promise of profit, no one would have the least idea what anything truly costs. If goods were provided without reference to the value of time, energy, knowledge, or ability, they would reflect only the cost of raw materials rather than their true value when transformed into commodities, leading to a scarcity of everything. See: Socialism.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 3:39:29 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: jessduntno

IT HAS NOT DIED. WE STILL HAVE A RECONCILIATION POSSIBILITY...... AND....... WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO INSURANCE COMPANIES BEING SUPERVISED BY A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE UNION AGENCY?

THIS IS ONE STEP AWAY FROM SINGLE PAYER BY ANY OTHER NAME.

LETS CALL IT SINGLE PAYER 2.....OR SINGLE PAYER PLAN B.

These leftists want us by the cajones very, very badly, and they need to be sent packing.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 3:40:35 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: stephenjohnbanker
"Let us see now...private companies who must be efficient to make a profit waste HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. But the federal government which DESTROYS money, will SAVE billions of dollars. Uh, Bernie? You have been dead for many years...LIE DOWN!!!!

BWWWHAAAA!!!!!!!

But-but, steph?
What about the Dead Constituency?
The republic's dead'uns need representation, outside Chicago, too y'know. LOL

14 posted on 12/16/2009 3:42:35 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: jessduntno
"Touching, isn't it?"

Considering it's Democrats we speak, how about felt up. LOL

15 posted on 12/16/2009 3:43:52 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
"... leading to a scarcity of everything. See: Socialism."

I was talking with a young college grad nitwit about this the other day and he responded with "yeah but there hasn't been a REAL socialist country yet.." - sigh -

16 posted on 12/16/2009 3:46:01 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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To: Landru

The Tiger Woods Stamp of Approval!


17 posted on 12/16/2009 3:46:36 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: GnuHere
"The Tiger Woods Stamp of Approval!"

In a word, Fore!. LOL

18 posted on 12/16/2009 3:50:08 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
.private companies who must be efficient to make a profit

not if they just keep raising the rates every year, my health insurance is going up 20% next year, if they were being efficient the costs should go down once in a while
19 posted on 12/16/2009 3:53:40 PM PST by houston1
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To: Landru

“But-but, steph?
What about the Dead Constituency? “

Now I know the meaning of “Grateful Dead” ;-)


20 posted on 12/16/2009 3:54:55 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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