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1 posted on 12/16/2009 3:21:06 PM PST by jessduntno
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WASHINGTON -The liberals’ longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies “are no longer needed.”

Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one “which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering that is engendered by the private insurance companies.” His remarks drew handshakes and even a hug or two from Democrats who had filed into the Senate to hear him.

Sanders acknowledged the proposal lacked the votes to pass, and he chose to withdraw it after Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., exercised his prerogative and required Senate clerks to begin reading the 767-page proposal aloud to a nearly empty chamber. After three hours, they were 139 pages into it.

The political theater came as the White House and Senate Democrats sought an agreement with Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., to become the 60th supporter of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul — the number needed to overcome a Republican filibuster.

The Nebraska lawmaker told reporters he was reviewing a proposal to toughen abortion restrictions in the legislation, one of the changes he is seeking. Nelson said the compromise negotiated by anti-abortion Sen. Bob Casey, D-Pa., involves attempt to separate private and public funds, an approach that in the past failed to sway the Nebraska moderate and Catholic bishops.
Asked whether the new language was satisfactory, Nelson said, “I don’t know at this point in time. Constituency groups haven’t responded back yet.”

Nelson emerged as the lone known holdout among 60 Democrats and independents earlier in the week after Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn., forced supporters of the bill to remove a proposed Medicare expansion.


2 posted on 12/16/2009 3:22:08 PM PST by jessduntno ("The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.")
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Single-payer health care plan dies in Senate
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Quick drive a stake through its heart

dig a hole and bury it with about a ton of garlic

Put lots of dirt and a big slab of concrete on top of it


4 posted on 12/16/2009 3:26:14 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: jessduntno
"The liberals' longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate, but Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies 'are no longer needed.'"

LOL
Hopefully, *bernie*, you'll be longggggg gone by then. LOL

Won't believe this 'til I see Dingy Harry, Pelousy and 4 of their hand picked quislings carrying a casket clearly marked in bold English, "Health Care Reform".

Otherwise, just more lies by the same ol' liars. LOL

5 posted on 12/16/2009 3:26:49 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; FBD; 1776 Reborn; Liz
>ping<

For a laugh. :o)

6 posted on 12/16/2009 3:27:38 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
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HHS Secretary Sebelius Announces: HHS has the authority to implement single payer plan by adjusting parameters for Medicare.

(Law, we don’t need no stinking law)


7 posted on 12/16/2009 3:33:31 PM PST by updatedscreenname
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Profit is the price of incentive. Absent the promise of profit, no one would have the least idea what anything truly costs. If goods were provided without reference to the value of time, energy, knowledge, or ability, they would reflect only the cost of raw materials rather than their true value when transformed into commodities, leading to a scarcity of everything. See: Socialism.


12 posted on 12/16/2009 3:39:29 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: jessduntno

IT HAS NOT DIED. WE STILL HAVE A RECONCILIATION POSSIBILITY...... AND....... WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN TO INSURANCE COMPANIES BEING SUPERVISED BY A GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE UNION AGENCY?

THIS IS ONE STEP AWAY FROM SINGLE PAYER BY ANY OTHER NAME.

LETS CALL IT SINGLE PAYER 2.....OR SINGLE PAYER PLAN B.

These leftists want us by the cajones very, very badly, and they need to be sent packing.


13 posted on 12/16/2009 3:40:35 PM PST by Candor7 ((The effective weapons Against Fascism are ridicule, derision , and truth (.Member NRA))
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To: jessduntno
No health care for you!

21 posted on 12/16/2009 3:54:55 PM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: jessduntno
The liberals' longtime dream of a government-run health care system for all died Wednesday in the Senate,

It ain't dead until AFTER Christmas.

23 posted on 12/16/2009 4:00:17 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Perfection is the enemy of Good.)
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To: jessduntno; Landru

“Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont vowed it will return when the realization dawns that private insurance companies “are no longer needed.” Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one “which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering that is engendered by the private insurance companies.” His remarks drew handshakes and even a hug or two from Democrats who had filed into the Senate to hear him.”


It is just incredible that these A holes never think once about all the private sector jobs that would be eliminated.
It’s like if they aren’t government jobs, they don’t exist.


27 posted on 12/16/2009 4:41:12 PM PST by 1776 Reborn
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To: jessduntno

It’s not dead...single-payer is the inevitable result of the creation of 111 bureaucracies, as are created in the Senate reform bill. The bill describes a system that is so incomprehensible, Byzantine, and medieval, that the only result will be a single-payer system, as ALL the Dems, especially Obama, want.


34 posted on 12/16/2009 6:20:22 PM PST by browniexyz
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Nothing has died; they’ll just try another tactic.

A government takeover is the reason for the season. Never turn your back on a DemocRat!


37 posted on 12/16/2009 7:51:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: jessduntno
Sanders, an independent and socialist, said his approach is the only one "which eliminates the hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, administrative costs, bureaucracy and profiteering

He's voting to get rid of the federal goobermint? How -- he's a socialist?

46 posted on 12/17/2009 12:53:29 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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