| There will always be dirtbags who will exploit the Chicken Littles of the world, like those with Halley's Comet in 1910 who fed off fears of cyanide gas poisoning as the Earth passed through the comet's tail.
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But was it really “consensus consensus”? (Shot at Whoopi’s “rape,rape” remark).
is that supposed to be Rush in the bottom left?
BTTT
“Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed “the coming ice age.”...”
I remember it, vividly. I also remember the dozens of cheap paperbacks that came out around that time (not too mention the TV movies, etc.) all because we got some nasty blizzards and snowfalls in the mid-1970’s. I got the feeling at that time that the entire “Global Cooling” campaign was a marketing ploy just to sell more books
(magazines and of course, advertising).
I remember.
I did read this back on Dec. 5th. It is full of “goo information!” ;^)
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| There will always be dirtbags who will exploit the Chicken Littles of the world, like those with Halley's Comet in 1910 who fed off fears of cyanide gas poisoning as the Earth passed through the comet's tail.
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Cool Ping
“In 2002 I stood in a room of the Smithsonian. One entire wall charted the cooling of our globe over the last 60 million years. This was no straight line. The curve had two steep dips followed by leveling. There were no significant warming periods. Smithsonian scientists inscribed it across some 20 feet of plaster, with timelines.”
I would like to find an image of that - it would be priceless!
I remember it well....bump
Hey, why should the Smithsonian put its tax-free status at risk? If the politicians decide to whip up public fear in a different direction, get with it, oh ye subsidized servants. Downplay that embarrassing old chart and maybe nobody will notice.
Eisenhower's famous "military-industrial complex" speech in 1961 contained a little noticed prophetic warning:
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
Bump to read later. I am aware that they once warned of global cooling. Now they’ve started simply saying “climate change”.
The irony is that it really is cooling. With the sun staying quiet and the deep ocean currents reversing on schedule, we are in for some serious cold. If that volcano in the Phillipines blows, we could be looking at very serious cold and a short wet cool summer.
The “climate scientists” at this point have no credibility to say anything about this very real threat. Why does that matter? Because there are real steps that can be taken. That said, these steps don’t help the govts secure money or power, so nobody is in the grant-driven “science” community is interested.
A for instance: Have a friend who is a farmer. He desperately needed a good growing season last summer. We talked about climate, and I convinced him to expect a shorter than normal growing season. He planted seed for corn designed for a more northern climate than his - it needs less days of sunlight to mature, but its yield is slightly less than his normal corn.
Was I scared to have him base such a huge decision on my understanding of the science? You betcha. (And I was very clear that it was just my understanding and I could be dead wrong.)
What happened? He had a good crop. Many of his neighbors didn’t. If he would have planted his normal corn, he might have been screwed right along with them. Because he’d had a bad couple years previously, he couldn’t afford crop insurance, so it could have ruined him.
Another lesson: You want to know what’s going on with the climate? Talk to a farmer. It’s their livelihood at stake, so they deal with the real world, not govt funded fantasy.
Let's see now... The 70's coincided with a major dip in sunspot activity (notice the peak to the right of the tall cycle labeled "Modern Maximum"). Then solar activity started going back up for the next two cycles, and we had the "Global Warming" craze.
Now solar activity is down, and the next cycle is delayed in getting started, and we've had a mild summer and a cooler than average start of winter.
But that's just a coincidence...
Man’s control of global temperatures is like lighting a candle in a house with a furnace and a thermostat. The candle can cause local, temporary, temperature changes, but the effect on the house as a whole is completely swamped by the real control systems.
Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed "the coming ice age."
Ummmm..., they never pushed it as "Anthropogenic". To miss that point is to miss the whole thing... LOL...
It's right for us to be informed of these things -- like when we had Global Cooling back then and afterwards we had Global Warming for several decades. There's nothing wrong with telling us (the public) about these things that scientists have been observing and measuring.
It's very true that we had Global Cooling and then the Global Warming started and "broke the back" of the Global Cooling. I hope there are not FReepers who think that Global Warming has not happened... LOL...
And then, in addition, it's also valid for scientists to also let us know (as some have now) that we've entered a period of time that is like the "Dalton Minimum" and we're likely to have Global Cooling.
And after that, we'll probably go back to Global Warming, once again... :-)
It's only the "Anthropogenic Global Warming" that is the problem. "Global Warming" has happened; while "Anthropogenic Global Warming" has not...
The Cooling is coming!!! The Cooling is coming!!!
Oh wait!
The Warming is coming!!! The warming is coming!!!
My how things change yet stay the same.
“Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed “the coming ice age.”
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Nope, I remember it clearly. They preached global cooling. They also preached we’d all be dead from starvation by the year 2000. They preached the planet could not support 6 billion people, no way, no how. They also preached we would be out of oil by 1990.
Liberals are nothing but Luddites. Their little itty-bitty brains can’t handle technology so they desire the Stone Age. Funny thing, though, liberals love to live in cities.
