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17 posted on 12/16/2009 7:29:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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Some graphs from Landscheidt et al. Landscheidt is a premier anti-AGW expert dealing with Solar Forcing and temps. Enjoy!

BTW...The dip there from the 40's to the 70's was why they were talking about another ice age....and the warming you see afte that is why they stopped talking about it. Otherwise, they'd still be talking about an ice age.

Oh...email?

22 posted on 12/16/2009 7:49:31 AM PST by NELSON111
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BTTT


23 posted on 12/16/2009 7:51:40 AM PST by E.G.C.
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From above ...

Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed "the coming ice age."

I do remember it, and indeed, they were thinking back then that we were going to possibly sink into either an ice age or a mini ice age (like the Little Ice Age of the past...)

But, it was not the same type of thing as now. Back then, it was seen as part of the climate changing, itself. HOWEVER, at the present time, you've got some politicians and certain scientists who are saying that it's "Anthropogenic". That's different than back then.

They never once said that this "ice age" was anthropogenic (back then). And there's the big difference, for sure.

You see..., it was true that it was cooler during the first part of the 20th Century than it was for the last part. In fact, the reason why everyone got off the "ice age idea" back then -- is -- because it started warming up... LOL...

So, it's the "Global Warming" which happened back then and continued for a number of decades which "broke the back" of the "ice age"... LOL...

We have had "Global Warming" and that's why everyone was finally dissuaded from the idea of a coming Ice Age -- but what we don't have is "Anthropogenic Global Warming".

And then, to throw another little monkey wrench into the discussion of what happens naturally and in cycles with our climate, now we have what looks to be another type of Dalton Minimum, which will contribute to cooling weather over the next decade.... :-)

We've had plenty of Climate Change, with Global Warming and Global Cooling, and they are very normal. It's the "Anthropogenic Global Warming" that is false idea and assertion.

29 posted on 12/16/2009 8:08:20 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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Great article, thanks much.


73 posted on 12/16/2009 12:21:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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Enjoy this one as well...since you got on here and said:

"That is a flat out lie!....The hacked emails prove that even the warmists know that we have been steadily cooling since 1936."

Where is that email...btw?

You also said:

Ed Blick, former USAF chief meteorologist, has outlined the process in his books, and on radio programs for all who are willing to know the facts....Its unfortunate that one who wishes to be called a meteorologist also chooses to follow the propagandists, and “go along to get along,” but this is the preferred career path, isn’t it! Rodney King science.

So...Enjoy this. Its from Ed Blick's paper entitled: "Q. & A. Anthropogenic (Man-Induced) Global Warming" from July 2009.

Blick: "Both figures show there is no evidence of man-induced global warming. Fig. 4 shows that since 2002, we have entered a global cooling period due to a less active Sun (fewer sunspots). Note the falling temperatures occurred in spite of increasing CO2, which directly contradicts the Gore/UN man-induced global warming theory."

Note: The image he uses for figure 4 (found in THIS pdf is from Joseph D’Aleo @ icecap.us...and icecap is the one who put Blick's paper on their website.

You also said: "Your position is in the minority among atmospheric researchers."

Now...remembering that Blick, who you first brought up as noteworthy...uses this image from icecap...

then it seems logical he would not have a problem with this image, from the same source:

This shows what I have said...and obviously what your ONE (1) source believes...that we warmed...cooled...warmed again...and we are now cooling AGAIN.

Looks like my position really isn't in the minority. After all...I've provided ample sources to back up my point, to include 1) Ed Blick, who you sourced, 2) Images of warming temps from 1975 which are attached to the very petition signed by the "real meteorologists" you also cited and 3) Other sources such as Landscheidt.

And I am STILL waiting on you to provide one source (a source that doesn't eventually prove my point of course!).

75 posted on 12/16/2009 12:44:38 PM PST by NELSON111
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Props to you Mama for finding this:

Keep the Change

We should make this FR's Signature tune! Please share with as many as you can?!

86 posted on 12/16/2009 5:21:06 PM PST by JustPiper (You think about revolution...Well...)
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