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1975 Warning: Global Cooling Is Coming
Forbes ^ | 12/04/09 | Gary Sutton

Posted on 12/16/2009 7:01:09 AM PST by OneVike

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Why the climatologists get it wrong.

Many of you are too young to remember, but in 1975 our government pushed "the coming ice age."

Random House dutifully printed "THE WEATHER CONSPIRACY … coming of the New Ice Age." This may be the only book ever written by 18 authors. All 18 lived just a short sled ride from Washington, D.C. Newsweek fell in line and did a cover issue warning us of global cooling on April 28, 1975. And The New York Times, Aug. 14, 1976, reported "many signs that Earth may be headed for another ice age."

OK, you say, that's media. But what did our rational scientists say?

In 1974, the National Science Board announced: "During the last 20 to 30 years, world temperature has fallen, irregularly at first but more sharply over the last decade. Judging from the record of the past interglacial ages, the present time of high temperatures should be drawing to an end…leading into the next ice age."

You can't blame these scientists for sucking up to the fed's mantra du jour. Scientists live off grants. Remember how Galileo recanted his preaching about the earth revolving around the sun? He, of course, was about to be barbecued by his leaders. Today's scientists merely lose their cash flow. Threats work.

In 2002 I stood in a room of the Smithsonian. One entire wall charted the cooling of our globe over the last 60 million years. This was no straight line. The curve had two steep dips followed by leveling. There were no significant warming periods. Smithsonian scientists inscribed it across some 20 feet of plaster, with timelines.

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To: Peter Horry

Stifle yourself, E-dit, you dingbat.


61 posted on 12/16/2009 9:18:29 AM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: OneVike

Global cooling was the big threat when i was in college in late 70s


62 posted on 12/16/2009 9:26:20 AM PST by wardaddy (Angel Flight by Radney Foster on GAC, if you don't tear up then you must be mighty cold)
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To: editor-surveyor
In coastal areas, temperatures have more to do with ocean temps and the prevailing winds than with other factors, and ocean temps tend to lag due to the heat reservoir effect of the oceans.

We're seeing colder temps in interior North America. Europe is currently still mostly fine because what keeps it warm is the Gulf Stream, a convection current that brings heat from the Gulf of Mexico up to Northern Europe. Similarly, the Mediterranean keeps surrounding land from large temperature swings.

63 posted on 12/16/2009 9:28:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Public healthcare looks like it will work as well as public housing did.)
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To: edcoil

Alex Murphy scanned in the Cover page of a book I remember so well (ICE) from that time. There was also another book published in that time frame which, though not related to any “Climate Change” nonsense, was about what would happen to New York if Bubonic plague broke out in the city and Manhattan was turned into quarantine zone. Naturally the villans in that novel were the military (who were scheming to blame Cuba) and the CIA. Ah the good ole days!


64 posted on 12/16/2009 9:32:15 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: wardaddy
You were saying ...

Global cooling was the big threat when i was in college in late 70s

And however much that was a fact (and I do remember the big concerns about Global Cooling) -- it was never presented as "Anthropogenic"... and it's "that" -- which is the primary and only problem here...

65 posted on 12/16/2009 10:14:31 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

We all understand, but fortunately most of us recognize propaganda, and Rodney King 'science.'

Well, this "Global Warming" that you're refusing to accept as having happened (as opposed to "Anthropogenic Global Warming"), and call it "Rodney King science" -- is the same thing that Lord Monckton says is true, that many FReepers use here (i.e, his information) in regards to refuting "Anthropogenic Global Warming".

So, it would appear that you're saying that many FReepers are using Lord Monckton and his "Rodney King science"... LOL... [as a result of your "Rodney King science" statement]

In addition, you're also, as a result, accusing the other FReeper Meteorologist who agrees with the facts of Global Warming having happened during the latter part of the 20th Century, as he has so well posted to you several times.

You're saying (as a result of what you've said above) that he is also using "Rodney King science" in maintaining his position in Global Warming having happened.

In addition, he says that there are thousands of other meteorologists who agree with him in regards to Global Warming having happened, while at the same time, disagreeing with "Anthropogenic Global Warming".

So, I'm sorry, but when I see FReepers like this in their professions agreeing with the fact of Global Warming, disagreeing with Anthropogenic Global Warming and also having Lord Monckton in the same position (who is used by many other FReepers) -- I have to say that you're using "Mickey Mouse science"... LOL...

66 posted on 12/16/2009 10:26:01 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

The reference to Lord Monckton is strictly yours.

Going along with contrived data is a notable characteristic of Rodney King ‘science.’


67 posted on 12/16/2009 10:50:09 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

The reference to Lord Monckton is strictly yours.

Lord Monckton supports the idea that there has been Global Warming and that this is indisputable. And also it's Lord Monckton that many FReepers use in their support for refutation of "Anthropogenic Global Warming", which is a completely different matter from "Global Warming"...

So, as a result of your commments, you are also putting Lord Monckton, whom many FReepers use for support against Anthropogenic Global Warming -- in that category of Rodney King science... :-)


Going along with contrived data is a notable characteristic of Rodney King ‘science.’

But, there's the problem, it's only "contrived" in your own mind. It's not "contrived" in Lord Monckton's mind. It's not contrived in the minds of other FReepers who post here. It's not contrived in the mind of that FReeper meteorologist who supports the idea of Global Warming having happened, but not Anthropogenic Global Warming. It's not contrived in the minds of all those other meteorologists that he knows (that he stated here) who also believe that Global Warming has happened, but they don't support Anthropogenic Global Warming.

It would appear that for the "people who count" and are qualified to speak on the matter -- they don't have the same thing "in mind" as you do... LOL...

68 posted on 12/16/2009 11:08:18 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler
I'm confused. So we had non-anthropogenic global warming, or we have non-anthropogenic global warming? But now we're entering a cooling phase?

Or none of us really know WTF is going on? Seriously.

69 posted on 12/16/2009 11:25:13 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: SW6906
You were saying ...

Or none of us really know WTF is going on? Seriously.

Well, briefly and without extreme precision, the first part of the 20th Century -- Global Cooling. The second part of the 20th Century -- Global Warming. Within the last few years, Global Cooling -- the effect of a Dalton Minimum (i.e., sunspots) happening now.

That's just a very imprecise but mostly accurate (in the big picture way) of what's been happening with Global Cooling and Global Warming.

And then, finally, none of this Global Cooling or Global Warming has been "Anthopogenic" -- i.e., like "Anthropogenic Global Warming" (like some politicians and other politicized scientists are saying).

All the rest is a whole lot of detail... :-)

I hope that helps...

70 posted on 12/16/2009 11:52:05 AM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Thanks!


71 posted on 12/16/2009 12:01:47 PM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: Star Traveler

The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

That is a fact that you control weenies cannot sidestep.

The sun is cooling, so the Earth is and will continue to be cooling, even as the remnants of the ice age continue to melt, as they must, when viewed on a global scale.

Will a second ice age ever come along? Not likely; that would require an increase in cloud cover, whereas what we have is slowly decreasing cover. Drought may eventually be an issue, unless we increase atmospheric CO2.


72 posted on 12/16/2009 12:19:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor

Great article, thanks much.


73 posted on 12/16/2009 12:21:41 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

It's only contrived, cooked, fraudulent in your own mind. It's not -- to many others who are opposed to "Anthropogenic Global Warming"... :-)

The sun is cooling, so the Earth is and will continue to be cooling, even as the remnants of the ice age continue to melt, as they must, when viewed on a global scale.

The information given on the Great Global Warming Swindle, up above (see the video documentary, the best out there) -- does not indicate that this is the mechanism for Global Warming and Cooling. They explain it quite well as something completely different from what you are saying.

A brief diagram of what they say is the "mechanism" for the Global Warming that we have experienced and the Global Cooling that is coming on -- goes the following way...

sunspots --> solar winds --> cosmic rays --> clouds

There's a brief diagram of the mechanism. See the video for a more complete understanding of it.

I think you need to get more on board with the "real scientists" who oppose Anthropogenic Global Warming and who can educate you about the real earth and sun processes going on here in our natural universe... :-)

It's a shame to see some FReepers so far out of bounds as to understanding what is really going on...

74 posted on 12/16/2009 12:28:10 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Enjoy this one as well...since you got on here and said:

"That is a flat out lie!....The hacked emails prove that even the warmists know that we have been steadily cooling since 1936."

Where is that email...btw?

You also said:

Ed Blick, former USAF chief meteorologist, has outlined the process in his books, and on radio programs for all who are willing to know the facts....Its unfortunate that one who wishes to be called a meteorologist also chooses to follow the propagandists, and “go along to get along,” but this is the preferred career path, isn’t it! Rodney King science.

So...Enjoy this. Its from Ed Blick's paper entitled: "Q. & A. Anthropogenic (Man-Induced) Global Warming" from July 2009.

Blick: "Both figures show there is no evidence of man-induced global warming. Fig. 4 shows that since 2002, we have entered a global cooling period due to a less active Sun (fewer sunspots). Note the falling temperatures occurred in spite of increasing CO2, which directly contradicts the Gore/UN man-induced global warming theory."

Note: The image he uses for figure 4 (found in THIS pdf is from Joseph D’Aleo @ icecap.us...and icecap is the one who put Blick's paper on their website.

You also said: "Your position is in the minority among atmospheric researchers."

Now...remembering that Blick, who you first brought up as noteworthy...uses this image from icecap...

then it seems logical he would not have a problem with this image, from the same source:

This shows what I have said...and obviously what your ONE (1) source believes...that we warmed...cooled...warmed again...and we are now cooling AGAIN.

Looks like my position really isn't in the minority. After all...I've provided ample sources to back up my point, to include 1) Ed Blick, who you sourced, 2) Images of warming temps from 1975 which are attached to the very petition signed by the "real meteorologists" you also cited and 3) Other sources such as Landscheidt.

And I am STILL waiting on you to provide one source (a source that doesn't eventually prove my point of course!).

75 posted on 12/16/2009 12:44:38 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: editor-surveyor
The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

Hmmm...is that the same data the Ed Blick uses...'cause as I just proved...he is using the same data as Monckton and he put that data into his paper. HE (not I)...HE said we have cooled since 2002. His work, that somehow you misquoted, shows he understands we warmed from the mid 70's until 2002.

The 31K plus scientists who signed the petition, that you also cited, signed it KNOWING that the attached paper SHOWED warming from the mid 70's to ~2000. But somehow...that is a minority opinion?

Source it. Prove me wrong with a link. Bet you can't. Put up or shut up.

You know what you are? You are someone who gets their jollies from blogging and making "loud" noises...but who can't back ANYTHING they say up. You bark a lot...but there is no bite...because you can produce one shred of evidence to back up what you say.

That's not to say you haven't tried. You toss around some things like "thousands of real meteorologists"...but then when it is pointed out that they signed a petition which CONCEEDED that there has been some warming during the last part of the 20th century...the crickets start chirping and you...like any good keyboard commando...go down another rabbit trail.

You toss around "Ed Blick" and say he was the CHIEF weatherman...but not even Ed Blick says that about himself...the signature on his papers is simply this: "Edward F Blick, PhD; Former USAF Weatherman; Retired Prof. Engineering & Meteorology; Univ. of Oklahoma"

Now...don't you think Ed Blick would acknowledge being the head of it all? And if he was...don't you think he would know better than to call himself an Air Force Weatherman? Nobody in our field, especially in the military, uses that term outside of OCMs (on camera met's). But that point is moot...'cause I have proven you didn't know what you were talking about when I listed all the Commanders and Directors of Air Force Weather and the Air Weather Service going back to 1960 (actually 1958 because thats when the first guy on my list took over)

But even Ed Blick agrees with my point...and when that's brought to your attention: crickets.

Still waiting on that email you say is there...oh...and feel free to post some verifiable data on your own (you know...with links...something other than "this dude says your wrong).

76 posted on 12/16/2009 1:02:27 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111
Cooked Data
77 posted on 12/16/2009 2:38:50 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: OneVike

bttt


78 posted on 12/16/2009 2:46:31 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: OneVike

bttt


79 posted on 12/16/2009 2:46:32 PM PST by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Already aware of that...but it doesn't change the satellite data....which also showed warming during that period.

And it doesn't change my points: The people you quoted agree with me. Their data matches mine.

Scoreboard. PWNED. Whatever you want to call it. Blick agrees with ME...not you...so...continue to ramble all by yourself...unless of course you care to post some data that disputes Blick (guess he's not your "fav" now...)

Oh...BTW...EMAILS?

80 posted on 12/16/2009 3:00:42 PM PST by NELSON111
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