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To: Star Traveler

The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

That is a fact that you control weenies cannot sidestep.

The sun is cooling, so the Earth is and will continue to be cooling, even as the remnants of the ice age continue to melt, as they must, when viewed on a global scale.

Will a second ice age ever come along? Not likely; that would require an increase in cloud cover, whereas what we have is slowly decreasing cover. Drought may eventually be an issue, unless we increase atmospheric CO2.


72 posted on 12/16/2009 12:19:03 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
You were saying ...

The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

It's only contrived, cooked, fraudulent in your own mind. It's not -- to many others who are opposed to "Anthropogenic Global Warming"... :-)

The sun is cooling, so the Earth is and will continue to be cooling, even as the remnants of the ice age continue to melt, as they must, when viewed on a global scale.

The information given on the Great Global Warming Swindle, up above (see the video documentary, the best out there) -- does not indicate that this is the mechanism for Global Warming and Cooling. They explain it quite well as something completely different from what you are saying.

A brief diagram of what they say is the "mechanism" for the Global Warming that we have experienced and the Global Cooling that is coming on -- goes the following way...

sunspots --> solar winds --> cosmic rays --> clouds

There's a brief diagram of the mechanism. See the video for a more complete understanding of it.

I think you need to get more on board with the "real scientists" who oppose Anthropogenic Global Warming and who can educate you about the real earth and sun processes going on here in our natural universe... :-)

It's a shame to see some FReepers so far out of bounds as to understanding what is really going on...

74 posted on 12/16/2009 12:28:10 PM PST by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: editor-surveyor
The data are contrived, cooked, fraudulent.

Hmmm...is that the same data the Ed Blick uses...'cause as I just proved...he is using the same data as Monckton and he put that data into his paper. HE (not I)...HE said we have cooled since 2002. His work, that somehow you misquoted, shows he understands we warmed from the mid 70's until 2002.

The 31K plus scientists who signed the petition, that you also cited, signed it KNOWING that the attached paper SHOWED warming from the mid 70's to ~2000. But somehow...that is a minority opinion?

Source it. Prove me wrong with a link. Bet you can't. Put up or shut up.

You know what you are? You are someone who gets their jollies from blogging and making "loud" noises...but who can't back ANYTHING they say up. You bark a lot...but there is no bite...because you can produce one shred of evidence to back up what you say.

That's not to say you haven't tried. You toss around some things like "thousands of real meteorologists"...but then when it is pointed out that they signed a petition which CONCEEDED that there has been some warming during the last part of the 20th century...the crickets start chirping and you...like any good keyboard commando...go down another rabbit trail.

You toss around "Ed Blick" and say he was the CHIEF weatherman...but not even Ed Blick says that about himself...the signature on his papers is simply this: "Edward F Blick, PhD; Former USAF Weatherman; Retired Prof. Engineering & Meteorology; Univ. of Oklahoma"

Now...don't you think Ed Blick would acknowledge being the head of it all? And if he was...don't you think he would know better than to call himself an Air Force Weatherman? Nobody in our field, especially in the military, uses that term outside of OCMs (on camera met's). But that point is moot...'cause I have proven you didn't know what you were talking about when I listed all the Commanders and Directors of Air Force Weather and the Air Weather Service going back to 1960 (actually 1958 because thats when the first guy on my list took over)

But even Ed Blick agrees with my point...and when that's brought to your attention: crickets.

Still waiting on that email you say is there...oh...and feel free to post some verifiable data on your own (you know...with links...something other than "this dude says your wrong).

76 posted on 12/16/2009 1:02:27 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: editor-surveyor

Ok, I’ll do my part. CO2 to the rescue!


83 posted on 12/16/2009 3:38:55 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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