Posted on 11/25/2009 6:15:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
President Obama is in a fix over his country of birth.
The President started to dig the hole as Senate candidate and now he is president, the hole is getting deeper and uglier, mainly because of his evasive actions. Many Democrat supporters are either ignoring the problem or are vehemently attacking "birthers" who question the President's eligibility.
Republicans are not the only ones concerned about his eligibility. Libertarians, independents, constitutionalists and even democrats are wondering why Obama is fighting so hard to hide his origin.
Unfortunately, Obama dug the hole himself, and like a hole created when a water main leaks and then bursts, the hole is expanding day by day and as it does, the fallout is increasing.
The President and his legal teams have done everything in their power to prevent anyone from accessing his real birth certificate, if he has one, but there are other lines of investigation they cannot block.
During his campaign for the Senate, he and his team touted his Kenyan birth, possibly because it made him more appealing to the voters they needed. Unfortunately, admitting to his birth in Kenya makes him ineligible for the Presidency.
So the question now is, was he really born in Kenya and he told the truth in the Senate campaign, or was he really born in Hawaii, and the Kenya story was a lie, used to deceive Illinois voters.
Obama can't have it both ways. The answer to this question will be interesting!
Of course, he could say the campaign and the reporters all got it wrong, but it will be interesting to follow the trail on this investigation and discover the sources for the AP story that documents the apparent fact that Obama was Kenyan born.
If it wasn't the truth back then, why didn't he stop the campaign using that information and why didn't he make the AP issue a retraction?
Obama supporters who say it is nobody's business, need to take a step back, imagine the president is George Bush and ask themselves the same question they should ask now. "Is it OK for the President to hide his origin and what are his motives for doing it?"
I want there to be a simple, truthful answer to these questions, but I have a strange feeling the answer is not what any of his supporters wants to hear.
Everything you wanted to know about natural born vs citizen
http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm
Saab baby READ THIS
Everything you wanted to know about natural born vs citizen
http://www.thebirthers.org/misc/logic.htm
I’d settle for the goof coming from the normal Christian side of Kenya at this point...
How about an American Boris Godunov?
Actually your first premise was immediately destroyed in post #74 by ROCKLOBSTER.
Nope don’t agree on that one sorry
It is all moot anyway because Obama told us he was born a dual citizen because of his father's British citizenship. That made him ineligible and every senator knew it, having just signed Senate Res. 511 supposedly justifying McCain's qualifications because “both of his parents were citizens.” The fix was in an Obama had the confidence to announce his ineligibilty, because the law firm guiding him was the same one defending McCain, Kendall and Ellis. They both had a natural born citizenship problem keeping both parties silent.
If our legal system were still rooted in our Constitution, and our legislators bound by oaths, Obama wouldn't be president. The sad complicity of senior military, who also signed an oath is now coming to light. Senior military make no secret of the priority of their respect for Sharia over respect for The Constitution. I know there are officers who hate what is happening, but field grade desk jockeys have families to feed too. When the food riots come, they will still have a job - protecting the leadership from the citizens.
I have urged my nephews, one not to re-up, and two others not to enlist. They would be joining a military which has been ordered not to provide cover, and not to shoot until after incoming has been verified, and until after permission has been granted by headquarters. Men should stay near to protect their families because we are now faced with “Enemies foreign and domestic,” with the emphasis on “domestic.”
lol My fictional account derived from a plausible scenario given the circumstance of a unwed preggo teenage girl 2600 miles from home. I'd go see mom.
Since you offered Wikipedia this is from the page you supplied a URL to.
There is dispute regarding whether the foreign-born children of U.S. citizens are natural born citizens.[26] One view interprets the "natural born Citizen" clause as meaning that a person either is born in the United States or is a naturalized citizen.[27][not in citation given] According to this view, in order to be a "natural born citizen," a person must be born in the United States, or possibly an incorporated territory; otherwise, they are a citizen "by law" and are therefore a "statutory citizen," (not necessarily, however, a naturalized citizen, which implies a pre-existing foreign citizenship).[26] Another view holds that the clause only requires that a president be a citizen at the time of birth, whether under the Fourteenth Amendment or under federal law.[28]
Seems like you don't even read your own cited sources.
I am sure the links to several articles from when he ran for senate were posted here.
Here is one
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
Then you might want to read these, to see all of the documents he is hiding.
http://www.obamanotqualified.com/
http://theobamafile.com/ObamaEducation.htm#PreSchool
I am sure you will find the above two very enlightening.
You’re wrong.
Anchor-babies have DUAL citizenship, and their allegiance therefore, is split. They are not eligible to be President, just like Obama.
He forgot the salient fact of the citizenship status of his father, among other things, but it’s good that the questions aren’t stopping. The truth *will* come out .. eventually. Just hope and pray it comes in time to save our country and someone who knows the truth finds the courage to come forward.
Anyone born here appears to be a Citizen, but not Natural Born.
KENYAN BORN OBAMA ALL SET FOR SENATE former article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040627142700/eastandard.net/headlines/news26060403.htm
AllAfrica.com — “Kampala — Ugandans have formed a group to mobilise support for Kenyan-born Senator...”
http://allafrica.com/stories/200802180051.html
SECURITY CONCERNS FOR TOURISM AS SENATOR OBAMA JETS INTO KENYA
As Kenyan born US Senator Barack Obama…(13th headline down)
http://www.africa-ata.org/ug_newsletter.htm
NPR …STORIES OUT OF AFRICA:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95550177
THE NIGERIAN OBSERVER:
http://oilforimmigration.org/images/screencapt3.jpg
THE GHANAIAN TIMES:
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll1/BecJul/Go_Obama_Ghanaian_Times2.jpg?t=1255731958
What's that saying...you can't dig yourself out of a hole?
I’m on the same page. He’s going to have a nervous breakdown. Can’t be too soon.
If your great grandmother became a citizen before your grandmother was born (which you claim was prior to her marriage)..than your grandmother was a natural born citizen. I am assuming your great grandmothers husband was a citzen.
I am of Italian decent and dabble in genealogy. For years, on genealogy forums, some people, for whatever reason they have, want to apply for duel citizenship, to Italy.
You can only get it, if you one of your ancestors, managed to be not naturalized. I, myself cant get it.
On my mothers side, the immigrating ancestor was her parents. My grandfather was naturalized, which made his wife naturalized (the law during that particular time period). He renounced his Italian citizenship before I was born.
On my fathers side..he was born in italy, but was naturalized before he got married. Therefore, people on both my maternal and paternal sides..were citizens, renouncing the king of Italy..before I was born. I cannot, if I wanted to..get a duel citizenship. (Um..I would never do that anyway).
I am going to guess..this is how it also works here...so since your Ggrandmother became a citizen..if her husband was one..this would make your father a natural born citizen, since this took place before well before his birth.
Ping for reference ...
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