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To: Saab-driving Yuppie
Again, not true, per 14th amendment. Also, see "anchor babies."

Since you offered Wikipedia this is from the page you supplied a URL to.

There is dispute regarding whether the foreign-born children of U.S. citizens are natural born citizens.[26] One view interprets the "natural born Citizen" clause as meaning that a person either is born in the United States or is a naturalized citizen.[27][not in citation given] According to this view, in order to be a "natural born citizen," a person must be born in the United States, or possibly an incorporated territory; otherwise, they are a citizen "by law" and are therefore a "statutory citizen," (not necessarily, however, a naturalized citizen, which implies a pre-existing foreign citizenship).[26] Another view holds that the clause only requires that a president be a citizen at the time of birth, whether under the Fourteenth Amendment or under federal law.[28]

Seems like you don't even read your own cited sources.

111 posted on 11/25/2009 8:57:01 PM PST by TigersEye (Sarah Palin 2010 - We Can't Afford To Wait)
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To: TigersEye
TigersEye, I have noticed distinctly fewer Obots over the past months, and believe most FR are readers know the truth. But just in case, two chief justices of the court in two of the dozens of decisions addressing citizenship were especially concise, John Marshall in The Venus 12 U.S. 253:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”

and C.J. Waite in Minor V. Happersett 88 U.S.162:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

And, while we've seen the obfuscation for the past year, just a reminder, the 14th Amendment never mentions the words "Natural born citizen." Its principal author , John Bingham, in an address to a joint congressional session, repeats C.J.Waite and the Vattel definition precisely. There have been twenty four attempts by congress to amend article II Sect I, the latest in 2003 by Orren Hatch; none, I believe, cleared the Senate (though I haven't read them all), for ratification by three fourths of the states.

There has been a great deal written about natural born citizenship. The author of the legal dictionary, Law of Nations, used by our founders for much of the Constitution and the Declaration, de Vattel, was on lecturer Barack Obama’s reading list for a course on immigration law at UofC. He knows the definition, but believes the Constitution is an historical document to be used when it is useful to achieve an objective - like many attorneys.

130 posted on 11/25/2009 9:34:00 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: TigersEye
TigersEye, I have noticed distinctly fewer Obots over the past months, and believe most FR are readers know the truth. But just in case, two chief justices of the court in two of the dozens of decisions addressing citizenship were especially concise, John Marshall in The Venus 12 U.S. 253:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.”

and C.J. Waite in Minor V. Happersett 88 U.S.162:

“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.”

And, while we've seen the obfuscation for the past year, just a reminder, the 14th Amendment never mentions the words "Natural born citizen." Its principal author , John Bingham, in an address to a joint congressional session, repeats C.J.Waite and the Vattel definition precisely. There have been twenty four attempts by congress to amend article II Sect I, the latest in 2003 by Orren Hatch; none, I believe, cleared the Senate (though I haven't read them all), for ratification by three fourths of the states.

There has been a great deal written about natural born citizenship. The author of the legal dictionary, Law of Nations, used by our founders for much of the Constitution and the Declaration, de Vattel, was on lecturer Barack Obama’s reading list for a course on immigration law at UofC. He knows the definition, but believes the Constitution is an historical document to be used when it is useful to achieve an objective - like many attorneys.

131 posted on 11/25/2009 9:34:11 PM PST by Spaulding
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