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Live Thread: House of Representatives Votes on Obamacare 11-07-09
U.S. House of Representatives ^ | 11/07/09

Posted on 11/07/2009 9:35:32 AM PST by pillut48

The House tries to pass Obamacare in a big hurry, breaking how many Constitutional rules/regulations??

FOX news coverage can be seen online at http://www.blinkotv.com/ (select "HD Test")


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; borninkenya; closetmuslimprez; government; health; healthcare; healthcarereform; healthinsurance; military; muslimsaboteur; obama; obamacare; obozohussein; pelosi
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To: paulycy

The future? We have no future.

Hang them now.


341 posted on 11/07/2009 3:32:00 PM PST by roses of sharon (Call the NFL and welcome their new Commissioner, Al Sharpton.)
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To: pillut48

Always the same old sweet stupid song!

BUT COMPASSION IS NOT STUPIDITY OR BRIBERY.
Real compassion is smart and fair and face reallity driving to individual and collective progress


342 posted on 11/07/2009 3:32:30 PM PST by Ulysse (a)
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To: beethoven
What makes me mad is a segment of the American voters elected Republicans to represent them. They should be allowed to take part in all of this, but Obama and his puppet Democrats think they own the Government.

You're right though I hadn't thought of it that way.

I have to wonder if they've been promised that their families will never have to go on gov't care. How else could they pass something like this knowing that their daughter could unnecessarily die of breast cancer or their son of prostate cancer, all the tests that will eventually be rationed because their only goal will be to save money.

Exact opposite of current system where their goal is to make money so they run the tests and catch much of it in the earliest stages.,/p>

God help us!

343 posted on 11/07/2009 3:33:02 PM PST by Kenny
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To: paulycy

The mantra is now- "Live Long & P*ss-poor!"

344 posted on 11/07/2009 3:33:38 PM PST by mikrofon (Space Cadet)
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To: Ulysse
Coverage under their parents until their 27th birthday.

WTH

345 posted on 11/07/2009 3:34:05 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: roses of sharon

The trials at Nuremburg will be small compared to the ones necessary after this travesty and treason.


346 posted on 11/07/2009 3:34:22 PM PST by clove (In God we Trust, all others need a birth certificate and picture ID)
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To: your local physicist
Everyone who cannot afford health care is eligible for health care coverage right now under Medicaid.

To join Medicaid you must meet income guidelines. Many people cannot get Medicaid because they make too much money. But at the same time they don't make enough money to buy health insurance.

347 posted on 11/07/2009 3:34:43 PM PST by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: Yaelle
I bow before a veteran FReeper twice as worthy as myself! :-)

Yuck, San Fran Gran Nan up...looking like she got beat up by Dorian Gray's painting! Think she's been hitting on the celebratory sauce a little bit early? Her words are slurring a bit...lies lies lies and more LIES!!!! Ack!

Oh, dear God, one lightning bolt, that's all I ask! Just one!
348 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:04 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: mikrofon
The mantra is now- "Live Long & P*ss-poor!"

Now THAT is funny.

And sadly true.

349 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:04 PM PST by paulycy (Predatory Pricing = Public Option = Unethical Competition.)
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To: Gene Eric
It looks like the Democrats settled on a 90-seconds-per-speaker rule because it's impossible to present an effective argument in that time. It the Democrats were interested in real debate, there would be fewer speakers, talking for 5 or 10 minutes at a time.

Strech Pelosi speaking...fear not, my friends. Remember, it's a good thing if the House passes this bill today. The bill will still get held up by the Senate or in conference, and the Blue Dogs will get branded for voting for this Statist bill -thus paving the way for the Republicans to re-take the House.

350 posted on 11/07/2009 3:35:53 PM PST by BCrago66
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To: Yaelle

AND a chicken in every pot AND a car in every garage AND a mule AND 40 acres, by golly by gum!!!

/sarc


351 posted on 11/07/2009 3:36:17 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: hennie pennie

Go hang out at Democratic Underground or Daily Kos and lurk, and you’ll get an education—REAL FAST. Talk about racists and intolerant morons!


352 posted on 11/07/2009 3:37:28 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: BCrago66; All

“Remember, it’s a good thing if the House passes this bill today. The bill will still get held up by the Senate or in conference, and the Blue Dogs will get branded for voting for this Statist bill -thus paving the way for the Republicans to re-take the House.”


Dang! That’ a good spin. I hope you’re right because I’m very depressed right now. I would like to have seen it killed tonight and dead for 10 more years.


353 posted on 11/07/2009 3:38:15 PM PST by ync1994
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To: upchuck
Many people cannot get Medicaid because they make too much money. But at the same time they don't make enough money to buy health insurance.

Because a few have problems, they are destroying our entire healthcare system. It's no more than an excuse, there were about a billion ways to take care of those people without trampling our freedom and killing our economy.

No one, and I mean no one even Democrats, can possibly believe they are doing anything good with this monster.

354 posted on 11/07/2009 3:38:18 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny
I have to wonder if they've been promised that their families will never have to go on gov't care.

Precisely. Don't forget that the "priviledged few" have their own Cadillac health care plan. And that amendment that supposedly "forced" them to go on what ever plan is enacted states that is a voluntary move. They can stay with what they have till they die.

355 posted on 11/07/2009 3:39:44 PM PST by upchuck (New sign on my pickup: Are you a "Hope and Change" regretter?)
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To: Aussenseiter

“Neo-Conservative”
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That is the second time I have noticed your use of the term, this ‘go-round’ applied more broadly and generally to the entirety of this website and therefore ostensibly, to the majority of those members who frequent and post here.

Some “neo-cons” are self-defined as such, and let them be who they are, as they are.

This site is NOT by/of/for a list of political positions which constitute a checklist of neocon beliefs, and you make such a judgment at risk of marginalizing yourself and making any/all of your future postings inherently suspect.

Here at FR, most of us support Israel in general terms. Not as an unqualified, they-can-do-no-wrong kind of blanket acceptance of any/all political/military choices Israel exercises, but simply as opposed, for example, to the broad, pan-arab muslim camp which ludicrously ascribes the palestinian problem and all other mid-east problems to Israel and her doings.

Simply put: the muzzies will not be “happy” until/unless Israel as a state no longer exists, and that, because thay have succeeded in murdering most or all of the Jewish people.

You have some stones on you essentially taunting longtime FReepers and baiting so many by calling FR a “NeoCon” site...

Which is neither a wise, nor recommended course of action. Also not factually accurate, personally tolerant, or generally defensible.

In general, FReepers are (by simple majority) Christian (but quite tolerant of Judaism), pro life, pro American military, supportive of the War On Terror, fiscally conservative, in favor of significantly more limited gov’t - both legal powers and spending habits, and morally conservative (anti gay marriage and not supportive of “same-sex” unions or state-provided benefits for same sex partners.

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If you want to call those principles “NeoCon” then I pity you. Your stay on FR will be both short and uncomfortable

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356 posted on 11/07/2009 3:40:45 PM PST by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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Nancy giving shout outs to dead Ted Kennedy and her hero HolyObama about how wonderful they are and how much they care/d for the American people--barf alert!

Mary Jo Kopechne and those massacred at Fort Hood have no comment!
357 posted on 11/07/2009 3:40:47 PM PST by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: BCrago66
She looks just awful - Pelosi's 1959 hairdo with the streaks is just absolutely ridiculous. I wonder if dementia is setting in, and that's why she doesn't realize that she looks ridiculous, particularly the highlight streaks of blond. Whadda she thinks she is - a Californial GIRL??? A 'babe' she is not, LOL
358 posted on 11/07/2009 3:40:47 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: pillut48

No thanks, time is too precious for that type of “education.”


359 posted on 11/07/2009 3:42:23 PM PST by hennie pennie
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To: All
Has anyone been to the website below? I didn't know it existed, but found a link to it when I was on Collin Peterson's website (looking for his positions on health care).

http://www.govbenefits.gov/

I went there, took the questionnare and after 73(!) questions it told me I may be eligible for 9 types of assistance (all related to HUD). LOL

360 posted on 11/07/2009 3:42:45 PM PST by ejdrapes (You can't lead a movement from Facebook)
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