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How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?


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To: TChris; Tennessee Nana
but isn’t Tennessee Nana able to answer these questions herself?

That isn't the way the forum works...anyone can post information in reply to ANY post.

Is that your response to the information furnished in the post from a Utah government history website? How about responding to the facts!

721 posted on 10/28/2009 6:11:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: TChris; colorcountry
None of the incidents you jackals love to bring up was done at the direction of the Church. NONE OF THEM.

Utah was a theocracy at the time of these incidents. NOTHING was done by a mormon bishop that was not attributable to the mormon church...NOTHING!

You are simply snakes, deserving of nothing greater than disgust and revulsion.

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722 posted on 10/28/2009 6:19:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
making it personal, which I believe is NOT allowed on FR?

News forum..now's the time to bring your best stuff ;)

723 posted on 10/28/2009 6:25:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (ObaMugabe is turning this country into another Zimbabwe as fast as he can with MEDIA'S help.)
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To: colorcountry

CC..

For several years i lived in another state...

Close to me were 2 cults...

The mormoins and the JWs...

Every month both groups would harras me at my own front door ...

trying to push their unGodly religions down my throat...

Both groups told me that i would be their personal slave when we all got to their great beyond...

However a JW woman had clainmed me first and the mormons were upset about that...

It was a riot...

Both cults fighting over little me...

It went on for years...

Forget about telling them I’m not interested...

They wont take NO for an answer...

Both cults hated the other groups guts and I became a prize...

I was astonishing the tales they told about each other...

they were prepared to fight over me with dueling pistols if need be...

Well I moved to TN more than 20 years ago, and although theres a ward house tucked into a hidden corner here, the mormons have not bothered me all this time...

The JWs are not local and I had not seen them either...

BUT...

Les than 6 months ago...here they come 2 mormon mishies with my apostate self as a future notch on their gun and the MP off their hungry and mistreated backs...

I just told them what they had been taught in their mission classes and the bom etc and they were upset I knew...

They wanted to know how did i know ???

I taught them a thing or 3 and sent them on their way...

Then this morning, here they come...the JWs...

A bright pretty girl...Watch Tower not quite hidden to my nasty searching Flying Imam eyes...

“We would just like to share some imformation
with you...” (No honest mention of religion, bad start)

“What church do you go to?” (I dont mess around)

“We’re Jehovah Witnesses” (At least she was up front)

“No thanks I’m a Christian...” (Politely, smiling)

“Oh, but we’re Christians too..” (Beautiful smile, poor deluded kid)

“No thanks I’m not interested...” (Yo No means No)

The girl and the man with her just stood there on my property at my private door...

The one hiding down in the car was peeking through the steering wheel ...I looked back over at her...she ducked...

No one else had moved...

(Now that is a red rag to a bull)

I got right to the point...

“Please get off MY property...You are not welcome here”

The girl ran... the guy with her hesitated for a second and decided to leave...

One thing though...

They were a lot politer than the mormon guys...

and they did not preach at me like the JWs in that other state would have done all the way back to their car etc...

They left...

SOOOOOOOO

Its on...

The Jolly Ol fight over Nana’s soul

the mormons against the JWs...

Will they be back...

Yeppers...

They’ve found me...

The challenge of the cults...

:)


724 posted on 10/28/2009 6:31:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: restornu

How convenient for you to be able to show your true colors and motives. Have fun.

Off to watch the WS. Phillies up 2-0.

SZ


725 posted on 10/28/2009 7:01:57 PM PDT by SZonian (Phillies Phan in SoCal (still laying low from the Doyers fans))
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To: restornu
"You and the darkside is having a lot of fun for now anyways!"

No darkside; only truth. Joe Smith was a punk, a con-man and a dude who got shot escaping from jail. Sorry that he was never and never will be a "prophet". You're living the darkside of a cult. Just visit www.exmormon.org and they'll explain everything.

726 posted on 10/28/2009 9:20:11 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: SZonian

No it is refreshing to speak plainly!


727 posted on 10/28/2009 9:21:58 PM PDT by restornu (A humble people of the Lord is stronger than the all wicked warriors of the World)
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To: NoRedTape

No when I was in the mainstream it was the tradition of men that hinder the Lord children.

I thank the Holy Spirit for leading out of that time warp...

I watch in amazement at how so many daily want to kick against the prick!


728 posted on 10/28/2009 9:45:18 PM PDT by restornu (A humble people of the Lord is stronger than the all wicked warriors of the World)
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Great to see all the truthful info on mormonism brought to light here. Cults need to be brought out into the light.

Perfect to see the acknowledgement that Joe Smith was never, and shall never be considered a "prophet". To consider Joe or Bring'em anything close to a "prophet" is laughable at best.

There is nothing about Joe's Myth that can be proven archaeologically or anthropologically, in any manner whatsoever; not one piece of shred. Nada; Zilch.

.........still wondering why Beck switched to the cult. Do not get it all all.................

 

729 posted on 10/28/2009 9:46:52 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Tennessee Nana

You’re in safe hands Nana.....His!


730 posted on 10/28/2009 9:46:53 PM PDT by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: restornu
"No when I was in the mainstream it was the tradition of men that hinder the Lord children."

Do they talk such bizarre nonsense on planet Kolob? I now refuse to EVER travel there.

731 posted on 10/28/2009 9:59:11 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: NoRedTape

You get used to resty speak...


732 posted on 10/28/2009 10:49:36 PM PDT by ejonesie22
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To: colorcountry
” Men in the Church must be worthy Melchizedek Priesthood holders in order to receive the temple endowment and be sealed to their families for eternity. They have the authority to administer to the sick and give special blessings to family members and others. With the authorization of presiding priesthood leaders, they can bestow the gift of the Holy Ghost and ordain other worthy men to offices in the Aaronic and Melchizedek Priesthoods.

 
 

 

 
We're not worthy!


733 posted on 10/29/2009 4:33:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TChris
That's the point: Those who want to know the truth can easily find it.

Then those who 'know the truth' should be able to POST the truth as they know it; and not have a vague, "It's over there - go find it."

BOTH of those PRO-Mormon websites are KNOWN for their lengthy and obtuse 'explanations' that use mostly circular logic to try to 'prove' things.

734 posted on 10/29/2009 4:36:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TChris
All you're accomplishing is to make more and more FReepers, both Mormon and non-Mormon, really despise your posts. Haven't you noticed yet?

Yes; I sure have!

I must say that MORMON writings have that tendancy to rile up folks.

What can a fella do?

735 posted on 10/29/2009 4:37:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: colorcountry
John 8:31.... Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.

MY teaching - not JS', BY's, and the rest of the LIVING PROPHETS®.




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)

 

 

736 posted on 10/29/2009 4:40:13 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
This the News/Activism forum....!:)

It is not NEWS to regular FR posters that you must not have been very ACTIVE in the PRESBYTERIAN congregation you claim to have been part of.

If you HAD been; then you'd be able (or WILLING) to help the rest of us FR posters LEARN what JS did about the UNTRUEness of PRESBYTERIANism.

737 posted on 10/29/2009 4:43:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
Sorry you have no light!

This is News/Activism - not the MINDREADING area.

738 posted on 10/29/2009 4:44:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: restornu
If anti’s is not able to receive a witness from the Holy Ghost please do not vent on the LDS because ya antis short comings!

Your Honor;
you'll note that the MORMON defense team has been UNABLE to produce ANY evidence to back up their wild claims against my clients.

I move that the case be thrown out of court and that the MORMONs be put on trial for FRAUD.

739 posted on 10/29/2009 4:46:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: greyfoxx39
How about responding to the facts!

I will!

The FACTS are that yer momma wears COMBAT BOOTS!!!

--MormonDube(Nyah - Nyah - NYAH!!!)

740 posted on 10/29/2009 4:47:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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