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How Can Glenn Beck Be Right on So Much and Yet Still Believe the book of Mormon? (serious question)

Posted on 10/26/2009 7:51:02 AM PDT by Scythian

I'm a huge Beck fan, in fact I'm listening right now here

http://www.ksfa860.com/common/gap_streamer.php

but something really confuses me. It takes the ability to use real critical thinking to know what Beck (and most of us know about the state of the country and where we are heading). That is, we have the ability to discover the truth no matter how much the media or conventional wisdom try to hide it. Yet on Mormonism, Beck is cleary wrong. Any Christian knows that the book or momonism is severely flawed and that Joseph Smith was no prophet. How can Beck cut through all the chaff of what is going on in our world and come to the truth and yet believe the writings of Joseph Smith? It doesn't make sense? I'm not saying he's up to something secret, not by any means, it's just that he's so right about so many things and completely wrong on the most important thing. Now, he just said on the air that he believes Jesus is the Savior of the world and that he is Mormon.

I also think that because he is Mormon he is not attacked near as much if he was a Evangelical Bible only believer. Anyway, am I nutz or does Beck being a Mormon seem bizarre?


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To: lawsone

The Famiily History Library,
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Oh I know the answer to this one...

That guy Winston, worked there in the Orwell book, 1984...

They go back and rewrite Inconvenient History there...

Got to have that convenience...


1,041 posted on 11/11/2009 8:25:27 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Colofornian

That would put area farmers at a distinct disadvantage in negotiating contract prices because the church-operated farm could produce spuds cheaper.
_____________________________________________

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Brigham Young would be proud...

BY was always looking for a way to make a fast easy buck...

He had expensive tastes...the biggest houses, the best booze, the best cigars, the best hats for his latest fancy piece, the best henchmen and murderers money could buy...

Anyway he could steal or cheat others without having to work for it his lazy conniving self..


1,042 posted on 11/11/2009 8:28:02 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lawsone
The home he purchased 40 years ago in a normal neighborhood.

Not NOW!

1,043 posted on 11/12/2009 3:52:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
I challenge you to read The Apostles Creed & tell me what's so "abominable" about that creed!

Heck; I'm STILL waiting for ANY Mormon to show just what was UNTRUE about PRESBYTERIANism that JS supposedly LEARNED!

1,044 posted on 11/12/2009 3:54:05 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
“The LDS Church could come in and raise 40 pivots.”

No, that is NOT perverts spelled wrong.


1,045 posted on 11/12/2009 3:59:34 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Safrguns

Read the BOM and then make your comments! You might find something in there worthwhile, but it is always better to go to the plummer for brain surgery for some.
ferv888


1,046 posted on 11/12/2009 3:59:36 AM PST by ferv888
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To: Tennessee Nana
“I’ve decided that Presbyterianism is untrue”

He may have MEANT that, but he said...

 
 I then said to my mother, “I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”


And there are NO Mormons who seem to know just WHAT he supposedly learned!

1,047 posted on 11/12/2009 4:03:00 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: lawsone
If you do a search re: LDS farming in Pascal, Wash. You will come up empty

I copied THIS exactly as you typed it and THIS came up.

http://www.agweekly.com/articles/2008/01/29/news/ag_news/news55.txt

What did you do wrong?

1,048 posted on 11/12/2009 4:06:12 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Scythian

Ah, yes; the daily drivel.....this thread has been posted daily for two weeks.....get over it.


1,049 posted on 11/12/2009 4:10:10 AM PST by traditional1 ("don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage. Don't gots to buy no gas...Obama, he gonna take care o' me")
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To: lawsone
The 12 served without salary, and missionaries served without purse or script. Following the bible is why we, and our missionaries, pay our own way.

KJV Matthew 10:5-10
5. These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7. And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. 9. Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
10. Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

Then just WHY do the MORMON missionaries show up on GENTILE doorstoops if they 'follow the BIBLE'?

1,050 posted on 11/12/2009 4:11:50 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tennessee Nana
 
That guy Winston, worked there in the Orwell book, 1984...
 
 
 

 
Eerily familiar...
 
 

Party ownership of the print media
made it easy to manipulate public opinion,
and the film and radio carried the process further.

 


 



16. Ministry Of Truth

.......

The Ministry of Truth, Winston's place of work, contained, it was said, three thousand rooms above ground level, and corresponding ramifications below.

The Ministry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the film and radio carried the process further.

The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes, plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary.

Winston worked in the RECORDS DEPARTMENT (a single branch of the Ministry of Truth) editing and writing for The Times. He dictated into a machine called a speakwrite. Winston would receive articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to alter, or, in Newspeak, rectify. If, for example, the Ministry of Plenty forecast a surplus, and in reality the result was grossly less, Winston's job was to change previous versions so the old version would agree with the new one. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs - to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance.

When his day's work started, Winston pulled the speakwrite towards him, blew the dust from its mouthpiece, and put on his spectacles. He dialed 'back numbers' on the telescreen and called for the appropriate issues of The Times, which slid out of the pneumatic tube after only a few minutes' delay. The messages he had received referred to articles or news-items which for one reason or another it was thought necessary to rectify.

In the walls of the cubicle there were three orifices. To the right of the speakwrite, a small pneumatic tube for written messages; to the left, a larger one for newspapers; and on the side wall, within easy reach of Winston's arm, a large oblong slit protected by a wire grating. This last was for the disposal of waste paper. Similar slits existed in thousands or tens of thousands throughout the building, not only in every room but at short intervals in every corridor. For some reason they were nicknamed memory holes. When one knew that any document was due for destruction, or even when one saw a scrap of waste paper lying about, it was an automatic action to lift the flap of the nearest memory hole and drop it in, whereupon it would be whirled away on a current of warm air to the enormous furnaces which were hidden somewhere in the recesses of the building.

As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconscious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames.

What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead.

In the cubicle next to him the little woman with sandy hair toiled day in day out, simply at tracking down and deleting from the Press the names of people who had been vaporized and were therefore considered never to have existed. And this hall, with its fifty workers or thereabouts, was only one-sub-section, a single cell, as it were, in the huge complexity of the Records Department. Beyond, above, below, were other swarms of workers engaged in an unimaginable multitude of jobs.

There were huge printing-shops and their sub editors, their typography experts, and their elaborately equipped studios for the faking of photographs. There was the tele-programmes section with its engineers, its producers and its teams of actors specially chosen for their skill in imitating voices; clerks whose job was simply to draw up lists of books and periodicals which were due for recall; vast repositories where the corrected documents were stored; and the hidden furnaces where the original copies were destroyed.

And somewhere or other, quite anonymous, there were the directing brains who co-ordinated the whole effort and laid down the lines of policy which made it necessary that this fragment of the past should be preserved, that one falsified, and the other rubbed out of existence.



1,051 posted on 11/12/2009 4:14:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ferv888
Read the BOM and then make your comments!

The D&C's are MUCH more entertaining!

1,052 posted on 11/12/2009 4:16:54 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: traditional1
 
Ah, yes; the daily drivel.....this thread has been posted daily for two weeks.....get over it.


 
 
Welcome folks, to our daily session of Theological discussions about Mormonism: Is it Christian?
 
 
 
 
 
 
Feel free to enter the talks at any time.
 
If you get dizzy, feel free to leave at any point.
 
All points are valid;
and, all points will be discussed.
 
 



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd_ucRdLLf4&NR=1

 

1,053 posted on 11/12/2009 4:18:26 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: traditional1
Ah, yes; the daily drivel.....this thread has been posted INTO daily for two weeks...
1,054 posted on 11/12/2009 4:19:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian

Talking of the Morg and the money they take...err...make...

That mall is now costing the tithe-payers more than THREE BILLION DOLLARS...

There are some good comments in cerious newspapers etc...

“The Morg’s Financial Furture is not in God’s Hands — It’s in Nordstrom’s!”


1,055 posted on 11/12/2009 8:21:05 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana; Scythian; SZonian; Godzilla; MARTIAL MONK

NUMBERS 12:1 AND MIRIAM AND AARON SPAKE AGAINST MOSES BECAUSE OF THE ETHIOPIAN WOMAN HE HAD MARRIED: FOR HE HAD MARRIED AN ETHIOPAN WOMAN. 12:9 AND THE ANGER OF THE LORD WAS KINDLED AGAINST THEM. NUMBERS 12:10 10 MIRIAM WAS TURNED LEPROUS. READ ALL OF CHAPTER 12.

I BELIEVE THAT IS CHAPTER AND VERSE AS YOU REQUESTED.
IT APPEARS TO BE POLYGAMY SANCTIONED BY THE LORD.


1,056 posted on 11/12/2009 8:40:47 AM PST by lawsone (Mormons)
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To: Tennessee Nana; Scythian; SZonian; Godzilla; MARTIAL MONK

NUMBERS 12:1 AND MIRIAM AND AARON SPAKE AGAINST MOSES BECAUSE OF THE ETHIOPIAN WOMAN HE HAD MARRIED: FOR HE HAD MARRIED AN ETHIOPAN WOMAN. 12:9 AND THE ANGER OF THE LORD WAS KINDLED AGAINST THEM. NUMBERS 12:10 10 MIRIAM WAS TURNED LEPROUS. READ ALL OF CHAPTER 12.

I BELIEVE THAT IS CHAPTER AND VERSE AS YOU REQUESTED.
IT APPEARS TO BE POLYGAMY SANCTIONED BY THE LORD.


1,057 posted on 11/12/2009 8:40:51 AM PST by lawsone (Mormons)
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To: colorcountry; lawsone

I mean at the time he married the ethiopian woman


1,059 posted on 11/12/2009 8:44:56 AM PST by colorcountry (A faith without truth is not true faith.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

MY, MY, HOW WE DO RANT AND RAVE!! GOD BLESS


1,060 posted on 11/12/2009 8:52:50 AM PST by lawsone (Mormons)
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