Posted on 10/04/2009 4:01:24 PM PDT by Doug Loss
We've all seen calls for a third party (which would be disastrous I think, given the lack of success third parties have had since 1860) and countering calls for taking control of the Republican Party. But what has been distinctly missing is any idea of how to do either of these things.
I'm not going to bother about how to form a third party, as I think it would be at best a waste of time. Instead, I'm going to present an idea and a website that gives concrete instructions on how to start to take control of the Republican Party. Oh, they don't say "Republican Party," but you know that they don't mean the National Socialists (excuse me, the Democrats).
Wag The Dog 2010 begins to lay out the precinct concept of seizing the party from the bottom up. It differs from state to state, but usually all you need is 5-10 signatures from party members within your voting precinct to get on the primary ballot as a candidate for precinct official for your party. Once you become that official, you get to vote (generally, I'm sure it varies a bit from place to place) for the county party officials about a month later. Those county party officials in turn determine the state officials, etc.
The secret is, many precinct positions are vacant because no one is interested in getting on the ballot, and many others go to the same old folks every time for the same reason. If you're associated with a local tea party organization or anything like that, you can look into getting your people into precinct official positions and take over your county party organization.
Folks, this is what it will take to make the changes we all want to make. Go look at this website, join up if you're of a mind to, but take the ideas seriously and let's start working on actually making a change, not just talking about it!
There hasn’t been another attack on our soil and you follow Ron Paul.
‘Nuff said.
And don’t even talk to me about illegal immigrants, you have no idea.
But, ending incentives won’t stop the terrorists.
That is what we were discussing, not drunk illegals who shouldn’t be here.
But tell me, how does the messiah Ron Paul propose to prevent terrorists who wish us harm from crossing the border? Bloviate on that, not drunk drivers.
Incidentally, one of my buddies from ‘Nam lost his leg to one.
Paul opposes a fence, so what steps will he take to block terrorists, not Mexicans, from crossing the border?
Better yet, just ignore this and me, I tire of fools quickly.
What? And get kooties? No, no, no, no, .....
Man50D, you continue to display that you don’t listen. You say “There is no victory in attaching yourself to a party that is willing to compromise those principles.” You clearly don’t understand (or refuse to see, which amounts to the same thing) that I’m not advocating “attaching” ourselves to the current party, but taking over the party aparatus and in essence overthrowing the current party. Yes, you’re the problem, in so far as people might listen to you and think all is lost and there’s no reason to try anymore. Your “winning strategy of strong Conservative principles” is no such thing. It’s just chronic whining.
Good question, Baynative. But the operative word is “lately.” The GOP has and can still be successful if it puts up conservative candidates that people actually believe, agree with, and want to put in office. The Constitution Party has never been successful and never will. If you want to ask again about “lately,” wait till after the November elections and see who’s in the governors’ chairs in Virginia and New Jersey.
You don’t seem to get it either. We’re not talking about asking voters to “return to their own political vomit, by following a Party whose leadership has no principles or convictions other than winning the next election.” We’re talking about taking control of that party and infusing it with principles and convictions. You chronic complainers not only don’t help correct the problems in our country, to the extent that you convince others to be passive whiners you collude with the perpetrators of those problems.
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Sorry Man50D, but you’re as wrong as anyone can be. Your way will guarantee that you feel pure in your more-conservative-than-thou views while the entire country is pulled into socialism by the winning left. Your attitude is a big part of the problem. You don’t get it, and I suspect you never will. But it’s OK, when we take over the GOP and pull America back toward what it’s supposed to be, we’ll protect your rights too, even though you’ll complain about us for not being as pure in our convictions as you are. Go back to sleep...
“Do you have a problem with any of those? Or perhaps you think that the illegal alien is not of any significant concern to Americans, probably because, as you implied earlier, there are no illegal aliens”
Could be just another “Bush Repub-likkin” that doesn’t have a problem with illegals because the GOP wants to compete for their votes, never mind that those votes are illegal as well.
What I’m advocating doing is for the conservatives to seize the Republican party, so the question of “conservative or Republican” would be meaningless. As to term limits, of course that’s a good idea. Another would be to radically reduce the size and grasp of the federal government, so that those working in the government would have much less power than they do now. That would go some ways to making permanent careers in government unattractive to the power-hungry. And it would make the influence and effect of those who wanted such permanent careers anyway much less on the rest of us.
I’d add one. I’d require any legislator who votes for a bill that passes and that increases the federal deficit to pay .001% of the cost of the deficit increase directly from his personal funds. So if the deficit was increased by $1 billion, each legislator voting for it would be on the hook for $10,000. Make their profligacy hit them in the pocketbook.
What an attitude for developing a political party. Smacks of everything I stand against and would use deadly force to resist.
Then you don’t understand how politics works. I didn’t say seizing control violently, or unlawfully, or immorally. You have a pavlovian reaction to certain words that isn’t reflective of their actual meaning. Do you really mean you would kill someone to prevent their taking control of a political party by using the party’s rules to do so? You’re the frightening one, not me.
{And yes, I have campaigned, manned phone banks, marched in parades with candidates, and managed GOTV drives, in case you care. But more conservatives need to take part. It’s called work for a reason, folks. It doesn’t happen by itself.}
To many of the complainers, that is hard work. You would have to spend your weekends doing GOTV efforts during the campaign season. Its so much more fun to wave signs and smile for the cameras at Tea Party rallies.
Good post, rabscuttle385. I don't have any big disagreement with it. But the statement above shows that DakotaRed has never cracked open a copy of the Constitution. Only an idiot would suggest that the Feds have no business securing our borders. Why put so much effort into arguing with some DU troll?
Oh yes, anybody that doesn’t kiss Ron Paul’s a$$ is an idiot, How Ron Paulian of you.
Guess where you can put your DU Troll, a$$hole.
It is people like you that has torn the GOP to shreds and why conservatives have left it in droves.
What have you got to offer, except thinking your Liberaltarian message will be accepted if only you can attach the ‘R’ behind it.
All you Ron Paulians are doing is ensuring we have total Democrat control of the country for decades, while hopefully, a true conservative party can grow. Your devotion to a whiny loser mirrors that of the Obamaites.
As for reading the constitution, I not only have read it, I took an oath to defend it and did.
Have you?
Go away, little boy, kiss Ron Paul’s a$$ some more, the grown-ups are talking now.
If that is representative of what you consider an adult reply I think my point has been made. Back to Huff-Po with you.
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