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Liberating biology from a Procrustean bed of dogma (even the evos are abandoning the HMS Beagle!!!)
Science Literature (ARN) ^ | September 25, 2009 | David Tyler, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/29/2009 1:39:24 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

In a Commentary essay, Carl Woese and Nigel Goldenfeld provide an analysis of biological thought that differs profoundly from that presented by those celebrating the Bicentenary of Darwin's birth and, incidentally, the recently published AP Biology Standards.

"This is the story of how biology of the 20th century neglected and otherwise mishandled the study of what is arguably the most important problem in all of science: the nature of the evolutionary process. This problem [ . . ] became the private domain of a quasi-scientific movement, who secreted it away in a morass of petty scholasticism, effectively disguising the fact that their primary concern with it was ideological, not scientific."

The authors want to see biology liberated "from the Procrustean bed of dogma on which it has been cast for so long". A radical overhaul is warranted. The issues are comparable to...

(Excerpt) Read more at arn.org ...


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To: chuckles
Hit a nerve did I? <> It may eventually bring about a different species if done long enough. The COMMON ANCESTOR of the butterfly and fruit flies were mutated and acted on by natural selection to give the butterfly and fruit fly. The evidence is there in the DNA. Just look for it. The fossil record backs it up. We are just another animal, but with a soul. Why is that so hard to accept.
41 posted on 09/29/2009 7:35:25 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: Moonman62

Biblical creation has been accepted by Jews and Christians for thousands of years. Darwin’s failed evo-religious creation myth is but a transient blip on our radar screen.


42 posted on 09/29/2009 7:51:48 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

Evolution is accepted by the Catholic Church. Been around a lot longer than the Protestant sects.


43 posted on 09/29/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by Wacka
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To: GodGunsGuts

Sure, and the Earth orbiting the Sun is just a blip on the radar screen, too.


44 posted on 09/29/2009 8:19:37 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 09/29/2009 9:51:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Wacka
...."Why is that so hard to accept."....

Because it's bulsheite. There is no evidence and the DNA doesn't show it. The fossil record does NOT back that up. Like I said there are NO transitionals. You are making stuff up and calling it truth.

I'm not going to keep posting on this because that was the reason I posted in the first place. You don't know sheite from shinola. Arguing with a rock won't change the rock.

46 posted on 09/30/2009 12:40:07 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

Why the venom?

You are just showing your ignorance.
Have you ever cloned a gene?
Do you have a patent on an engineered gene?
Do you even know how DNA works?
I do.
The proof is in the DNA.

We are bald apes.


47 posted on 09/30/2009 6:49:30 AM PDT by Wacka
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To: Moonman62

I’m gonna miss toasters.


48 posted on 09/30/2009 9:29:43 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: tpanther; g.g.g.

I’d never heard of this organization, and the link looked like a scientific source. Then I did some research because, coming from GGG, I didn’t think it would be. I was right.


49 posted on 09/30/2009 10:15:35 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: chuckles
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50 posted on 09/30/2009 12:51:51 PM PDT by Ira_Louvin (Go tell them people lost in sin, They need not fear the works of men.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Thanks for confirming your opinion and the evo position is permanently impotent.

You know for like the ba-jillionth time.


51 posted on 09/30/2009 1:35:25 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther

Exactly what did I confirm? I’ve confirmed that I’ve become jaded after the ba-jillionth BS creationist article passed off as science. That I take creationist claims with a BIG grain of salt after their multiple clear examples of lies and deceit in order to further their agenda.


52 posted on 09/30/2009 2:27:36 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; GodGunsGuts; metmom
Exactly what did I confirm?

That you're incapable of answering how someone not a member (of the cult) of evolution is able to actually question (your cult of) evolution?

53 posted on 09/30/2009 6:37:09 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther
That you're incapable of answering how someone not a member (of the cult) of evolution is able to actually question (your cult of) evolution?

If you consider it a cult, then you're pretty much lost. It's science. Any scientist can question it scientifically. So far creationists, even the scientists among them, haven't been able to do that successfully.

54 posted on 09/30/2009 7:18:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

Like I said, that’s cute little set-up...just have evolutionist scientists gate-keep the ‘peer review’ fraud and call it science.

No dissent allowed.

It’s not me that’s lost...

that was blatantly apparent when you were helplessly making up answers to a question that obviously exposed you for a cultist!


55 posted on 10/01/2009 4:13:46 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther
just have evolutionist scientists gate-keep the ‘peer review’ fraud and call it science.

I know creationists and IDers don't like peer review because it exposes the non-scientific nature or poor quality of their publications that relate to creationism and ID. That's why their requirements for peer review were very lax when they decided to start their own "scientific" journal (failed journal, BTW).

I have noticed a certain behavior shared by creationists, IDers and the Jesse Jackson crowd. When things don't go your way in the real world, when your can't hack it on your meager talents, just pull out the race/ID card and scream "I'm being persecuted!" Poor babies, can't hack it in the cutthroat world of science.

56 posted on 10/01/2009 5:25:21 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat; GodGunsGuts; metmom

Uhhhh, that’s not what we have a problem with...the problem is the outright fraud...

it should be re-labeled “evo-review”, because obviously anyone that doesn’t agree is 100% of the time shouted down with “religious attacks on science” nonsense liberal cult talking points...

you can’t parrot your way out of the facts...but that’s simply not science.

You wouldn’t know science or peer review is if fell on you!

LOL...I guess everyone’s supposed to just ignore it’s you ninnies that require the courts to prop you up?

OK...

Kind of like Michael Newdow...”But I don’t WANT to be reminded of God...waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh...”

And we’re supposed to ignore that algore says “the debate is over”...along with your liberal fellow great ape Chrissy Fit Matthews demanding his apehood is “settled science”?

OK...

no wonder you clowns have insulated yourselves from reality in this alternative universe you’ve created for yourselves, the world is crashing down all around you!

LOL!


57 posted on 10/01/2009 8:02:02 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: tpanther
Have you noticed the similarity of the fanatical Darwinists and the far left fanatics.

Anyone who opposes Obama Evolutionary Dogma had better keep their mouth shut or be called Racist Anti-science.

And both use government force and threats to shut down debate and enforce their political dogma.

58 posted on 10/01/2009 8:24:01 PM PDT by OriginalIntent (undo all judicial activism and its results)
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To: tpanther
it should be re-labeled “evo-review”, because obviously anyone that doesn’t agree is 100% of the time shouted down with “religious attacks on science”

Articles get rejected all the time. You just think you're special when yours get rejected.

Pulling the ID card just makes you look like a sore loser. You shouldn't be emulating the race baiters.

59 posted on 10/01/2009 8:39:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: OriginalIntent; tpanther

Which is exactly what earns them the label of liberal, which is totally beyond their comprehension.

They just don’t seem to see that an oligarchy is an oligarchy, whatever justification you use to control and stifle debate.


60 posted on 10/02/2009 7:00:15 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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