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Judge postpones ‘birther’ hearing until Monday; Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth proof
ledger-enquirer.com ^ | Friday, Sep. 11, 2009 | CHUCK WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/11/2009 2:38:33 PM PDT by plenipotentiary

A U.S. District Court hearing to determine if a Army captain fighting deployment to Afghanistan because of the challenged the legitimacy of Barack Obama’s presidency was rescheduled for Monday.

Capt. Connie Rhodes filed the complaint last week and Judge Clay Land granted an emergency hearing Friday afternoon in the Columbus federal courthouse.

Rhodes, a medical doctor who was with her unit in Fort Riley, Kan., did not attend the hearing. That prompted Land to reschedule it for noon Monday.

Rhodes is scheduled to arrive at Fort Benning Saturday and deploy within seven days.

Rhodes’ attorney Orly Taitz — a national figure in the “birther” movement — was in Land’s court. Rhodes was ordered by her commanding officers not to leave Kansas, Taitz told the court.

“That is not the information I have from Fort Riley,” said Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington. Rhodes had not informed her supervisor, Ausprung told the court.

Land made it clear he wanted to hear from Rhodes.

“I am going to require her to appear, so I can ask questions of her,” Land said.

Ausprung said the Army would make Rhodes available.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birth; birthcertificate; birthers; certificate; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; orly; taitz
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To: Red Steel

Since the responsibility for the soldiers deaths goes back up the chain to the one impersonating the CiC, Barry Dunham-Soetoro, why isnt he arrested for treason, neglegance, something ???


101 posted on 09/11/2009 8:11:19 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: stormer
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102 posted on 09/11/2009 8:12:23 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: itsahoot
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103 posted on 09/11/2009 8:14:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Tennessee Nana
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104 posted on 09/11/2009 8:17:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: Drew68
Smith is not the source. The BC is the source. Smith was only the deliveryman.
105 posted on 09/11/2009 8:19:39 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Only dead fish support Obama)
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To: Neidermeyer
Joint chiefs are in the chain of command. DUH
106 posted on 09/11/2009 8:21:41 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Only dead fish support Obama)
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

AMEN!!! and right on!


107 posted on 09/11/2009 8:24:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: stormer
There are those that are ignorant and those that are stupid. Ignorance can be corrected, stupid can not.

From your postings on this thread it is obvious you have not corrected your ignorance. This leaves only stupid.

108 posted on 09/11/2009 8:29:22 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Only dead fish support Obama)
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To: W. W. SMITH
Smith is not the source. The BC is the source. Smith was only the deliveryman.

Despite efforts on this forum to completely ignore Smith's history while portraying this guy as some sort of patriot, the truth is Lucas Smith is a convicted con man with an arrest record detailing a long history of fraudulent activities and I have no doubt that the birth certificate he "delivered" (after unsuccessfully trying to sell it on eBay) is a complete forgery, manufactured solely for Smith's financial gain and notoriety.

109 posted on 09/11/2009 8:30:31 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Neidermeyer; OldDeckHand
After the 1986 reorganization of the military undertaken by the Goldwater-Nichols Act, the Joint Chiefs of Staff does not have operational command of U.S. military forces. Responsibility for conducting military operations goes from the President to the Secretary of Defense directly to the commanders of the Unified Combatant Commands and thus bypasses the Joint Chiefs of Staff completely.

You are correct Niedermeyer. I pulled out my AFPAM 36-2241 and it supports you.

Verbatim:

"The operational chain of command runs from the President to the SECDEF to the combatant commanders chief (CINC). However, a provision of the Goldwater-Nichols DoD Reorganization Act of 1986 permits the President to authorize communications through the Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS).

Consequently, DoD Directive 5100.1, Functions of the Department of Defense and Its Major Components, place the CJCS in the communications chain of command. The JCS (the chairman, vice chairman, and the four service chiefs or their deputized alternates) are not in the chain of command.

Communications between the National Command Authorities (NCA) and the CINCs pass through the CJCS. (The NCA are the President and the SECDEF together or their duly deputized alternates or successors.) Further, the CJCS can be assigned oversight responsibilities for the Secretary's control and coordination of the CINCs. That is, the CJCS provides feedback to the Secretary about the Secretary's control of the CINCs. "

OldDeckhand: What? One of the craziest statements I've seen - perhaps ever. Of course the the Chiefs are in the chain of command - in their respective branches of service. In fact, they are at the TOP of the uniformed chain of command of their respective branch of service.

OldDeck, you're batting about .100 in your posts. There it is in black and white. Right out of the book the Joint Chiefs are not part of the chain of command. You're crazy about using the word "crazy" way too much.

110 posted on 09/11/2009 8:47:34 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Drew68
The BC is still the only source that matters. If experts go over it (the BC) and validate the document then Smith is immaterial no matter his past history.
111 posted on 09/11/2009 8:52:21 PM PDT by W. W. SMITH (Only dead fish support Obama)
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To: Neidermeyer
Joint Chiefs are NOT in the chain of command, they are advisers to the president.

Again correct. They are in the "Communications Chain of Command" to be more accurate. I pretty much figured you to be correct, but checked the book to be sure.

112 posted on 09/11/2009 8:54:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: W. W. SMITH
The BC is still the only source that matters. If experts go over it (the BC) and validate the document then Smith is immaterial no matter his past history.

Good luck with that. Apparently, Orly only submitted a copy to the court because Smith is unwilling to release the "original" without financial compensation.

I can't believe otherwise intelligent people are buying into this.

113 posted on 09/11/2009 8:55:37 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Neidermeyer

He must have stayed in a Holiday Inn last night to believe himself such an expert and not have a clue.


114 posted on 09/11/2009 9:01:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Since the responsibility for the soldiers deaths goes back up the chain to the one impersonating the CiC, Barry Dunham-Soetoro, why isnt he arrested for treason, neglegance, something ???

A DA could pursue criminal charges against Obama when he gets kicked out of office. His faux orders led to unnecessary deaths after he changed the ROE. I doubt Obama or the Obamanoids thought of this one.

115 posted on 09/11/2009 9:01:27 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Neidermeyer
The poster was being evasive: "The birth certificate. Which the State of Hawaii says is valid."

You need to have such a poster making such a possibly false comment actually explain which CoLB they are referring to, because the State of HI has not verified anything Barry the bastard has ever posted as an exhibited CoLB.

116 posted on 09/11/2009 9:04:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
He must have stayed in a Holiday Inn last night to believe himself such an expert and not have a clue.

Yes, OldDeckhand should apply for a job doing Holiday Inn commercials. LoL!

117 posted on 09/11/2009 9:06:01 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Drew68

It is not as if Lucas Smith is trying to pull something over on the public. He has never denied his past, in fact, he clearly states that it took someone LIKE hime to get this information. Willing to pay bribes for people to look the other way. To him, its the results, not the method, that are important. HE delivered a “product”
Now, as a con man, if he delivers a product, and its found to be bogus. He has pretty much put everything on the line to perpetrate a hoax. I don’t think so.
He delivered the goods, then signed statements, and made himself available to the court, and its scrutiny, and its punishment (up to 5 years) if he committed fraud.
If I was a betting man, I would put my money on him, as he stands to lose far much more than a con man would be willing to wager on a fraud.
Again, your shooting the messenger, and ignoring the message. If it bothers you, ignore the messenger, and let the message speak for itself.
If it proves right, then you can judge Lucas, until then, you really have no idea...now do you....


118 posted on 09/11/2009 9:08:41 PM PDT by etraveler13
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To: Drew68
I can't believe otherwise intelligent people are buying into this.

And we can't believe "intelligent people" are buying Obama's COLB is genuine.

119 posted on 09/11/2009 9:08:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: etraveler13
Now, as a con man, if he delivers a product, and its found to be bogus. He has pretty much put everything on the line to perpetrate a hoax. I don’t think so.

Why not? He's been pulling these stunts (and getting caught) his entire adult life and has a lengthy criminal record to back it up. Why think he'll stop now?

He delivered the goods, then signed statements, and made himself available to the court, and its scrutiny, and its punishment (up to 5 years) if he committed fraud.

The only "goods" he delivered was a blurry copy which Orly promptly submitted as evidence. He won't even give a legible copy to WND to verify. Why not?

C'mon. Even WND is raising the BS flag on this guy and up till now they've embraced every Birther tale that's crossed their desks. That should say something.

120 posted on 09/11/2009 9:27:01 PM PDT by Drew68
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