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Pterosaur Flight Plans (the idea that "they evolved flight naturally...defies common sense")
ICR ^ | August 31, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 08/31/2009 6:32:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Researchers recently discovered the world’s first pterosaur landing footprints, and the find has revealed precise coordination and other features in these mysterious flying reptiles. In a study published in Proceedings of the Royal Society B, co-author Kevin Padian and his colleagues examined some of the anatomical and behavioral features of these creatures, which are presumed to be extinct.

Based on skeletal anatomy and footprints, both found in fossilized form, it is known that pterosaurs walked on all fours. Their wings folded back so that they could walk on special forefeet located on their elbows. Their hind legs were situated underneath their bodies―like those of birds, mammals, and dinosaurs―and not out to the side like today’s four-legged reptiles.

Pterosaurs may even have been able to run on all fours. But until now, nobody has described their landing pattern. And landing correctly is critical, as any pilot will attest...

(Excerpt) Read more at icr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; catastrophism; creation; evolution; garbage; godsgravesglyphs; intelligentdesign; science
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1 posted on 08/31/2009 6:32:15 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: metmom; DaveLoneRanger; editor-surveyor; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; MrB; GourmetDan; Fichori; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 08/31/2009 6:33:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

3 posted on 08/31/2009 6:38:55 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support Sarah. http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#/sarahpalin?ref=nf)
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To: DogBarkTree

That’s actually an improvement over the real Helen Thomas!


4 posted on 08/31/2009 6:43:46 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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dammit, i keep running out of nails for that coffin...


5 posted on 08/31/2009 6:45:17 PM PDT by raygunfan
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To: GodGunsGuts

Was the Pterosaur designed by the Intelligent Designer or created by God?


6 posted on 08/31/2009 6:45:56 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: DogBarkTree

I have given HT a six month free pass for the take down she did on Obama’s press secretary.


7 posted on 08/31/2009 6:46:46 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: ColdWater

They are one in the same. Unfortunately, many IDers don’t know it yet.


8 posted on 08/31/2009 6:53:08 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
They are one in the same. Unfortunately, many IDers don’t know it yet.

Thanks for setting that issue straight.

9 posted on 08/31/2009 6:57:16 PM PDT by ColdWater
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To: GodGunsGuts
In conclusion: "And if the transitional ancestors of pterosaurs were broken and eaten (and dead), they would not have been able to reproduce or evolve. Thus, all of their biomechanical and other specifications must have been present at the same time in the very first pterosaur."

Brian Thomas *MS gets better with age. I'm quite sure he's has a mighty chuckle every time he sees his silliness posted all over the Internet. He writes the same exact ridiculous article EVERY DAY. The quote above is so heinously devoid of any knowledge of biology, I KNOW he's kidding around.

I'll give him bonus points, though, for covering his butt by noting that even though the bible clearly says that bats are "fowl," Brian Thomas *MS notes that HE knows the bible actually meant "fowl" to mean all sorts of flying things: Birds, reptiles and mammals. He's awesome.
10 posted on 08/31/2009 6:58:37 PM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: whattajoke

Don’t assume everyone has the same mentality as you, Whattajoke.


11 posted on 08/31/2009 7:05:17 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: ColdWater

I saw an article about the Pterosaur when it first came out. And the way it was written, it appeared that the author did not know how most birds land, in a flare. Having dabbled in hang gliding, besides always checking that you are clipped in, the first instinct to overcome is the desire to plant your feet on landing(not a fun outcome). The first step in landing is to convert all vertical velocity to horizontal, then let the horizontal velocity bleed off mere feet above the ground, when you hear the air starting to stall over the wing, you push the bar full forward, often at a full run on the ground, converting the remaining horizontal momentum back into vertical, stalling the airfoil, and then you land on two feet, completing a flare. That a Pterosaur would know this is not surprising. The flare is something the birds all know how to do. What I would like to know, and this was not evident from the “prehistoric runway” article, was given the flare, do they have any idea how fast the pterosaurs were flying just before the flare? Minimum controllable airspeed would say something about the efficiency of the airfoil for a given wing geometry. It would also say something about the air density.


12 posted on 08/31/2009 7:06:49 PM PDT by blackpacific
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To: GodGunsGuts
They are one in the same. Unfortunately, many IDers don’t know it yet.

Don't worry, the IDers know it. The "intelligent designer" ruse is just a way for them to claim ID isn't religion and therefore should be taught as science instead of theology.

The problem for them is that nobody's buying it. I have to hand it to admitted creationists, at least they're honest about their position.

13 posted on 08/31/2009 7:15:19 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: GodGunsGuts

Thanks for the ping!


14 posted on 08/31/2009 7:16:30 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: whattajoke
> he's has a mighty chuckle every time he sees his silliness posted all over the Internet. He writes the same exact ridiculous article EVERY DAY...

Yes, he has evolved
a routine, reproducing
articles that thrive.

15 posted on 08/31/2009 7:16:45 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: antiRepublicrat

If you think all IDers recognize the God of the Bible as the intelligent designer, then you really don’t have a very good grasp of the diversity of opinion within the ID community.


16 posted on 08/31/2009 7:21:33 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts
If you think all IDers recognize the God of the Bible as the intelligent designer, then you really don’t have a very good grasp of the diversity of opinion within the ID community.

By admission of the founders of the modern ID movement, the purpose of ID is to promote the Christian God.

I was wrong though. Not "nobody" is buying the charade. There are always enough suckers out there -- just look at the number of Scientologists.

17 posted on 08/31/2009 7:36:51 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

How can IDers promote the Christian God when their science is not guided by the Bible?


18 posted on 08/31/2009 7:42:13 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I have just two questions and I will not bother you anymore with replies or debate.

Do you get paid by the hit count on these sites you continually promote?

Do you have multiple screennames here? One person in particular replies with the exact same reply, letter for letter, usually within minutes, on every thread you start.


19 posted on 08/31/2009 7:53:46 PM PDT by socialismislost
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To: GodGunsGuts
How can IDers promote the Christian God when their science is not guided by the Bible?

Are you talking old-Earth vs. young-Earth creationists? That's a problem between you guys and your differing interpretations of the Bible.

20 posted on 08/31/2009 7:54:06 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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