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Free health care for illegals
Las Vegas Review-Journal ^ | 19 aug 09

Posted on 08/19/2009 3:40:21 AM PDT by rellimpank

Taxpayers foot the bill at University Medical Center

Anyone who thinks illegal immigration is an insignificant wedge issue in this country's already-divisive debate over health care reform need only look at Page 18A of Sunday's Review-Journal. In a picture worth significantly more than a thousand words, three uninsured illegals lie in beds at University Medical Center, receiving emergency dialysis at a cost of between $11,000 and $18,000 apiece.

Eviscerating any claim that illegals impose a miniscule burden on our health care system, the Review-Journal's Paul Harasim reports that 80 illegal immigrants with failing kidneys are receiving about $2 million worth of dialysis treatments each month at UMC. Brian Brannman, UMC's chief financial officer, projects that these 80 people alone will be responsible for about 35 percent of the public hospital's estimated $70 million deficit in the new fiscal year.

Bills for uncompensated care are forwarded to the recession-ravaged taxpayers of Clark County.

"The federal government kicked the can down the road on the immigration issue and gave the bill to us," Mr. Brannman said. "This is a federal policy failure that is driving huge health care costs to our citizens

(Excerpt) Read more at lvrj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; healthcare; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration
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1 posted on 08/19/2009 3:40:21 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Hope and change indeed. He’s tearing this country apart for God’s sake.


2 posted on 08/19/2009 3:41:43 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: rellimpank

And grandpa and grandma will be denied care so illegals can get favored treatment.

Wait till this hits the public mind. If the rat Marxists think people are rude and angry now, this will blow the roof off public meetings.


3 posted on 08/19/2009 3:54:05 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: rellimpank

Imagine what would happen if, citizenship records were kept and after the patient was stable enough to be transported back to their home country, the cost for providing their health care and the cost of deportation was deducted from foreign aid payments to the illegals home countries?

Wonder if these foreign countries (MEXICO) would stop encouraging them to come here and send their hard earned money back there?


4 posted on 08/19/2009 3:56:06 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Common Sense - where has it gone?)
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To: toddausauras

uhbama only really wants to give hope to people who have fled here (maybe specifically FOR free health care) and to the majority of those who got him elected-the undereducated who believe his promises to make their lives easy. What a spirit cruncher uhbama is; a man who has NEVER and WILL NEVER learn that a hand up is priceless and a hand-out is devastating.


5 posted on 08/19/2009 3:56:24 AM PDT by Republic
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To: sergeantdave; Grampa Dave; HollyB; Just mythoughts; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; ...
Wait till this hits the public mind. If the Marxists think Americans are rude and angry now, this will blow the roof off townhalls.......... grandpa and grandma will be denied healthcare so illegals can get favored treatment.

Vote-hungry Dems are sucking up to illegals---visions of stolid little people pushing strollers, riding their bikes to the polls, dance in their heads.

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DO THIS NOW: Forward all crime stories committed by illegals to Congmen/Senators. Lawmakers need to know we will not tolerate these criminal invaders in our midst any longer.

ACTION Congress must initiate federal legislation that would impose severe penalties for foreigners undermining the US government and committing crimes against Americans (stealing our identities, cloning our cell phones, fraudulently registering/voting, and looting the tax assets of Americans)........

1 - Invaders' using illegal ID or documents

2 - Invaders' Federal income tax evasion

3 - Re-entry into USA after deportation

4 - Obtaining/Operating vehicles with illegal ID's

5 - ID theft/fraud - Social Security fraud

6 - Knowingly gaining employment fraudulently

7 - Recruiting other illegal alien workers

8 - Transporting illegal aliens across the border

9 - Harboring &/or housing illegal aliens on American soil

10 - Endangering Americans by undermining US national security

11 - Registering/Voting using fraudulent documentation

12 - Conspiracy to violate federal statutes

13 - Uttering false statements to public officials

14 - Obstructing law enforcement

15 - Sham marriages to avoid deportation

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Emphasize to lawmakers that Americans are demanding:

Federal grounds for expulsion from US soil

Federal grounds for denying citizenship

Provisional federal citizenship laws

Severe penalties for committing Hate Crimes Against Americans

Severe penalties for conspiring against, and undermining, the US government.

Denying federal funds to sanctuary-cities.

Abolishing anchor-baby ruling.

STRICT ENFORCEMENT of all EXISTING laws WRT illegals.

6 posted on 08/19/2009 4:30:56 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: toddausauras
He’s tearing this country apart for God’s sake.

And he could care less.

7 posted on 08/19/2009 5:02:29 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Grumpybutt

This is what you can expect from Mexico

El Universal (Mexico City) 8/17/09

He pointed out that these children who were born in the United States and who have returned to Mexico “are practically non-existent as far as the educational and health systems, which reject them because they cannot prove their Mexican citizenship.”

http://m3report.wordpress.com/2009/08/18/a-honduran-comments-on-u-s-immigration/

Why are we helping Mexico again????????


8 posted on 08/19/2009 5:25:42 AM PDT by skoob2u
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To: Liz

Amnesty in this economy will not fly. Doing jobs Americans won’t do? Point me to this job! There are MBA’s working at McDonalds right now.


9 posted on 08/19/2009 6:20:01 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Liz
I heard on local news that Mexico second largest source of (they called it) remittances after oil was what the illegals that work here send back home was short 25 billion dollars over the past year. They showed two towns stopped in time with only old people and a few moms with children left. Sounds like Bama’s economy is hitting Mexico very hard.
10 posted on 08/19/2009 6:34:15 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: toddausauras
He’s tearing this country apart for God’s sake.

It's not God that he's doing it for,
it's the "other guy"...

11 posted on 08/19/2009 6:35:30 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Just mythoughts; Grampa Dave; HollyB; j; Tennessee Nana; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; maggief; ...
Bama’s economy is hitting Mexico very hard. Local TV news reported Mexico's second largest source of income, after oil, was illegals' remittances----short $25 billion over the past year. Showed two towns stopped in time........ with only old people and a few moms with children left.

Thanks for the heads-up.

12 posted on 08/19/2009 7:00:01 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: Liz

The left wing fishwraps and tv pseudo news have been running with articles/clips about illegal Juans and Juanita needing health care.

Someone posted on FR an article about an illegal, who got a kidney transplant and need money for his post op drugs.

How in the hell did an illegal get to the head of a line for a kidney?


13 posted on 08/19/2009 7:08:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does 0b0z0 have any friends, who aren't traitors, spies, tax cheats and criminals?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; All

Speaking of jobs...

The latest CIS study on ‘employment’ ....

Jobs Americans Won’t Do? A Detailed Look at Immigrant Employment by Occupation
By Steven A. Camarota and Karen Jensenius
CIS Memorandum, August 17, 2009
http://www.cis.org/illegalImmigration-employment

Excerpt: This analysis tests the often-made argument that immigrants only do jobs Americans don’t want. If the argument is correct, there should be occupations comprised entirely or almost entirely of immigrants. But Census Bureau data collected from 2005 to 2007, which allow for very detailed analysis, show that even before the recession there were only a tiny number of majority-immigrant occupations.

Among the findings:

* Of the 465 civilian occupations, only four are majority immigrant. These four occupations account for less than 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans comprise 47 percent of workers in these occupations.

* Many jobs often thought to be overwhelmingly immigrant are in fact majority native-born:
o Maids and housekeepers: 55 percent native-born
o Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 58 percent native-born
o Butchers and meat processors: 63 percent native-born
o Grounds maintenance workers: 65 percent native-born
o Construction laborers: 65 percent native-born
o Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 71 percent native-born
o Janitors: 75 percent native-born

* There are 93 occupations in which 20 percent or more of workers are immigrants. These high-immigrant occupations are primarily, but not exclusively, lower-wage jobs that require relatively little formal education.

* There are 23.6 million natives in these high-immigrant occupations (20 percent or more immigrant). These occupations include 19 percent of all native workers.

* Most natives do not face significant job competition from immigrants; however, those who do tend to be less-educated and poorer than those who face relatively little competition from immigrants.

* In high-immigrant occupations, 57 percent of natives have no more than a high school education. In occupations that are less than 20 percent immigrant, 35 percent of natives have no more than a high school education. And in occupations that are less than 10 percent immigrant, only 26 percent of natives have no more than a high school education.

* In high-immigrant occupations the average wages and salary for natives is one-fourth lower than in occupations that are less than 20 percent immigrant.

* Some may believe that natives in high-immigrant occupations are older and that few young natives are willing to do that kind of work. But 33 percent of natives in these occupations are age 30 or younger. In occupations that are less than 20 percent immigrant, 28 percent of natives are 30 or younger.

http://www.cis.org/illegalImmigration-employment


14 posted on 08/19/2009 7:10:23 AM PDT by AuntB (Tired of D & R globalist power brokers? How 'bout HEARTLAND AMERICA PARTY? It's a state of mind!)
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To: Liz

btt


15 posted on 08/19/2009 7:11:35 AM PDT by maggief
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To: AuntB

This was the “big lie” from Bush. For 8 years, he did everything humanly possible to increase illegal immigration.
When Bush began his presidency, the percentage of native born”doing jobs americans won’t do” was in the high 80’s. Eight years later, the number of native born doing these jobs dropped to the figures you have posted here.

“* Most natives do not face significant job competition from immigrants; however, those who do tend to be less-educated and poorer than those who face relatively little competition from immigrants.”

In the case of residential real estate construction, 500,000 high paying jobs(most of the jobs)were lost to illegal immigrants. Go to a home construction site; you will now see 150 illegal immigrants, and 2 bi-lingual foremen. Sickening!!


16 posted on 08/19/2009 7:30:26 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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ping


17 posted on 08/19/2009 8:45:44 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: Liz

My FAVORITE You Tube to educate people on Health care for illegal aliens.

Dr. Gene Rogers Paid the ULTIMATE PRICE! He lost his job, For telling the TRUTH!!

http://www.rosanna2010.com/5.html


18 posted on 08/19/2009 11:14:26 AM PDT by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: rellimpank
I know a resident who was given amnesty under Reagan in the 80s. Still knows no English living in an South East Los Angeles all Spanish speaking area.

Here's the breakdown as I understand it for her and her three precious kids.

Government babysitting at $150 a week each for two kids.
$1000 play money.
Free health care for her and her three kids. Value in CA about $800 a month.
Not confirmed. but maybe a section 8 housing voucher for part of her rent.
Food stamps and each of her three gems are in public schools.
She has NOT become a tax payer.

$40,000 a year for the public education cost.
$ 9,600 in free medical insurance a year.
$12,000 in free spending money a year.
(what ever the value of food stamps are)
$ 9,600 probably a year in home voucher.
$14,400 in paid baby sitting services from the state.

This is not uncommon and I'll let someone else add all this up to give us the heart attack total...

19 posted on 08/19/2009 11:52:57 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Amnesty in this economy will not fly”...

Or, the economy will be used as the reason FOR amnesty. Looking back at statements made by amnesty supporters, they always say the economy will suffer further if illegals are deported. If they vote on healthcare without Republicans...I expect they will do the same on amnesty.

Also...”buyer beware”, so to speak, one of the biggest Tea Party backers, Dick Armey’s FreedomWorks, SUPPORTS comprehensive immigration reform and an amnesty path to citizenship...though they, like Bush/McCain/Palin claim to “oppose” amnesty. Friend today, foe tomorrow.


20 posted on 08/19/2009 1:31:57 PM PDT by Kimberly GG (Sarah Palin supports a "path to citizenship" = AMNESTY for illegal aliens. .... DEMINT '12)
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