Posted on 08/06/2009 10:36:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters
NEW YORK – The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.
WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.
She filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California requesting the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction. She also asked for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and is seeking a subpoena for a deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
"I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND then. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate]."
The document she revealed:
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
They’re fake, and not too hard to prove them so, did give us hope for a few days, However, Who saw it as necessary to plant those fakes, and why? Another easy question to answer. Obots did it. And they did it to make us look like fools, in the hope that that would slow or stop the pursuit of eligibility documents. It really should inspire MORE resolve to find out where Ogabe was really born, and other records of his citizenship, or lack of. Kenyan BC wasn’t forged for fame or fortune, folks, it was to protect. We need to keep fighting all the rest of the crap he’s trying to ram down our throats, but keep trying to find out where he was really born, as it’s worrying the crap out of the Obots.
Birth certificate is a distraction...his “father” was not a citizen and his mother was not old enough to bestow citizenship. Beyond that disqualifier, he’s an illegal alien since he was never naturalized.
If Corsi's opinion is that the Kenyan BC is false, I give that a lot of weight. As a member of FR (current or past) he has shown integrity and courage as a coauthor of the book "Unfit for Command" about John Kerry. Corsi's research is solid so an accusation that he has gone over to the "dark side" is ludicrous.
Wiki:
Jamhuri Day is a national holiday in Kenya, celebrated on 12 December each year.[1] Jamhuri is the Swahili word for “republic” and the holiday is officially to mark the date of Kenya’s establishment as a republic on 12 December, 1964. However, the country also gained full independence from the United Kingdom one year earlier on 12 December, 1963, so Jamhuri Day is a double event and is generally regarded as Kenya’s most important holiday, marked by numerous cultural festivities which celebrate the country’s cultural heritage.
Jamhuri Day is often associated with Dedan Kimathi, the executed leader of the famous Mau Mau, regarded by many Kenyans as the hero who lifted the nation on his shoulders toward independence but he was executed before he completed his mision.
This is a loaded sentence.
WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.
But I thought that the document shown was more of a birth certification than a birth certificate, and therefore it would be different. Sure would love to see that Book and Page number.
Bingo! We have a winner! Ding Ding Ding Ding!
Bingo. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner!
Lol. You beat me to it.
I don’t care if it is real or not. No knowledge to have an opinion. I do want the courts to hear a case as to whether he is a “natural born citizen” or not. I don’t care how this court case comes about. I just want it to happen so we know.
My question as well --
Isn’t it amazing how cynical we have all become? And rightfully so!
It won’t be long before we won’t really believe anything at all...
Kenya’s a third world Banana Republic, more so in 1963. Whose to say they wouldn’t just start using Republic of Kenya on their govt docs after Kenyatta became President Banana & claimed their independence in Dec ‘63?
It depends what authority you consult. Wikipedia says 1964. Other sources say 1963.
Exactly. When Obama was born, Kenya was a British possession, but when the Orly’s COLB was released, it was a Republic.
Obviously the format and details would be different.
The provenance is vital because the document may have been a forgery presented to a 1964 Hawaiian court! Question then becomes, what truth was the forgery in 1964 designed to hide?
Well Orly will if they let her. HIGHLY unlikely. What we need is a rouge hero clerk, like the guy who turned on the Swiss (?) who had laundered & were holding mega Jewish money of holocost victims for decades.
I agree CD. I’ve been following Corsi a long time. He’s not a phoney, IMO.
Well, what source have you found that says Kenya was a republic in 1963? Even one?
Sources I’ve found that show Kenya was not a republic include the CIA world factbook, the official history detailed on kenyan govt websites, transcripts of british parliament, I could go on
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