Posted on 08/06/2009 10:36:25 AM PDT by RobinMasters
NEW YORK – The Kenyan birth document released by California attorney Orly Taitz is probably not authentic, according to WND's investigative operatives in Africa, though officials in Nairobi do not rule out the possibility President Obama may indeed have been born in their country.
WND obtained several samples of Kenyan birth certificates in use around Aug. 4, 1961, the date of Obama's birth, showing differences from the Taitz document.
She filed a motion in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California requesting the purported evidence of Obama's birth – both the alleged birth certificate and foreign records not yet obtained – be preserved from destruction. She also asked for permission to legally request documents from Kenya and is seeking a subpoena for a deposition from Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
"I filed the motion with the court asking for expedited discovery, which would allow me to start subpoenas and depositions even before Obama and the government responds," Taitz told WND then. "I am asking the judge to give me the power to subpoena the documents from the Kenyan embassy and to require a deposition from Hillary Clinton so they will be forced to authenticate [the birth certificate]."
The document she revealed:
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Oh okay.
Whether or not the certificate is real doesn’t matter. The fact is that he’s hiding his original BC and his academic records and he’s spending millions to keep them hidden.... WHY?
Keep in mind that Lightfoot vs. Bowen is still preceding in U.S. District Court, Santa Ana, CA. with Judge David O. Carter. That’s an Orly Taitz case challenging Obama.
ping
be carefull if you speak the truth about when Kenya became a republic you will be called a RINO, 0bama supporter, or Slimer. ;)
You play an ace when you need to.
If it’s fake, all that means is that we still have work to do to find the real certificate. It’s only a matter of time.
“FREE THE LONG FORM!”
Exactly. Wait till the right has totally gotten on the edge, and then yank the plank out from under them.
What? What? "Never waste a good crisis."
We're creating a 'crisis' for Obama and Rahm to use.
This is twisted. They need to get Copy’s of BC’s filed in early 1964 if they want to find a comparable BC. Gees.. how lame can you get.. yea.. there would be a difference between the Long Forms of 1961 and the COLB like Copy of 1964.. this is bizarre..
Orly needs help, and needs to listen that help.
I’m confused by the new Kenyan docs posted on WND. Although clearly different, they do not appear to be “apples to apples” comparisons.
The original Taitz BC is actually a “Certified Copy of Registration of Birth”. The new one is a “Return of Birth”. It seems the Taitz BC is a report that a Birth was registered in 1961, while the new one is actually a contamporaneous report of a birth. Likewise, I am checking now, but it seems they are from different sections of the country and may not represent forms that were in universal use in every district.
I may be grasping at straws. If so, so be it. FR is a place where we follow the facts, wherever they lead.
The two cannot even be compared. In the WND article, images of an ACTUAL, original birth certificate were shown.
The Kenyan document that Orly Taitz submitted was not in any way an original birth certificate. It was a “Certified copy of a Birth Registration”, generated 3 years later. This would be the equivalent of a “Certification of Live Birth” from Kenya, or, a COLB.
If the Kenyan document is authentic, it would have been generated to support, for example, a divorce proceeding where paternity would need to be established.
Maybe this fraudulent one was needed to force a true and legitimate look at the Kenya records, OR the copies that might exist in London from that time period.
What doesn’t nake sense is, ig Orly has the “origial”, why would she post the same first “PUNK’D” photo on her site as proof of the new COLB? Unless someone gave her the doc & photo at the same time & fooled her into posting the photo.
I won’t believe Orly was in on the scam, if it really is a scam.
Concur. The surfacing of the Kenyon BC, fake or not, gave Orly cause to file a very important motion. I assume that the motion will still have to be ruled on.
Why are they comparing a 1961 birth certificate to a 1964 Certificate of Birth?
One before and one after the independence of Kenya.
The Zanzibar issue is not even relevant because Mombasa had been a Kenyan city by lease for 75 years. Zanzibar did not claim legal authority over that city, only as legal deed holder.
Perplexing.
they have been saying this all week.
“We need to drop this!”
its like the line from Shakespeare.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”
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