Birthers Proven Right: Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate Found

examiner.com ^ | August 3, 2009 | Geoff Linsley

[kellynla]

For about a year now there has been a great deal of debate about whether or not President Barack Obama is truly a natural born American citizen. According to the Constitution, Article 2, Sec. 1, “No person except a natural born citizen…shall be eligible to the office of president.” The Obama campaign and administration have always claimed that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii. A Certificate of Live Birth was presented by the Obama campaign showing that Obama is an American citizen[1]; however, Hawaiian law didn’t require Obama to actually have been born in Hawaii in order to obtain this registration.[2] This, among other things, has created a public outcry – from a group now referred to as “birthers” – for Obama to show his long form birth certificate, which would disclose information such as which hospital he was born in, who delivered him, etc. that would solidify the fact that he actually was born in America. The Obama campaign and administration have failed to present this document to anyone. Instead, they have been suppressing the issue using two tactics: hiring lawyers to defend him against the legal dilemma – such as lawyer Perkins Coie, who was paid $688,316[3] – and creating the ignorant propaganda, repeated by many liberals, that anyone who questions Obama’s eligibility is weird, crazy or racist. The liberal mainstream media has propagated the latter tactic through news broadcasts, such as Nightly News with Brian Williams, which incorrectly assert that Obama has proven his eligibility.[4]

[Red Steel]

Let me drill this further in everyone’s brain : THEY NEED THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS TO AUTHENTICATE THIS ONE. This document is NOTHING, as it can’t be proved to be authentic without the original, which everyone has been looking for months.

Not the case.

Actually, it's possible to authenticate it without the finding the original BC. A clerk's log or other tracking means for this document could be used for authentication. A first hand statement, as in Mr. Lavender, an issuer would be a powerful enough for a judge to allow it as evidence. And a body of experts who agree that the document is authentic.

[JudgemAll]

Well these things could swing either way politicaly.

What is for sure is that it is one thing to be relatively wrong or incompetent, and that is what politics shoul be about: we do not necessarily elect the best but a workable lot (like betamax vs. VHF).

However big problems arise when the political “oponent” is actualy battling demons and the truth itself. We go into the realm of absolute incompetence regardless of the opposition. Liberal/Marxists are like that, they cultivate an unusual politics of personal frustration against reality and truth.

This should really give pause to Mr. Reid and the mental illness he and his cohorts are suffering from.

Are the birthers pushing it? They have their reasons enough. The log in the liberals’ eye is really the problem, and winning elections against soft trickable people is easy, but truth is a hard rock wall I expect liberals to autistically beat their heads to bleeding death against.

[JudgemAll]

Liberals hit their heads on walls. They are ill.

1. they think and portray right wingers as some ravaged worshipers of Bush. Hence the Bush bashing and the Obamamessiah movement.

2. They think we are crazed obsessed birthers who cannot see reality outside of that, Again, we are not crazy about this idea in and of itself as they would be themselves if the tables were reversed.

These people are not normal.

[RipSawyer]

LMAO Yeah, and I’m Santa Claus.

[CaliGirlGodHelpMe]

Joker poster - creeps me out.

[y6162]

“Joker poster - creeps me out”

I like it...it says so much...disturbing..iconic..

The Kenyan is always wearing a mask, this add color.

I’m going to anonymously post them here in the east. Freak em out.

[justlurking]

I don’t understand why Ms. Taitz subpoened Clinton - unless Ms. Taitz has some info in hand directly linking Clinton to this Republic of Kenya birth cert copy.

I think it might be because Clinton is Secretary of State. Requesting Kenya to validate the BC is a diplomatic issue, not a bureaucratic one.

[muawiyah]

No doubt your pet reindeer is lonely.

[muawiyah]

Here's the trick ~ there are a gazillion font styles available for use in MS Word. Some of them are designed to look just like a typewriter. Plus (the best part) you can make various adjustments to the appearance to create an impression of irregularity, and old ribbon.

Once you're done with that, you can pop your handiwork into some sort of drawing program (e.g. Photoshop) and wrap it up.

The technological revolution has come in these matters, so just because it looks like typing doesn't mean it is.

[muawiyah]

Only if you agree that Obama is a "citizen by birth". At the time he was born his father, a foreigner, was here as a student on a student visa. The law then required that he LIST any children born in the USA on his visa.

US citizens, of course, wouldn't be required to be listed on such a visa, but here the law is clear. The question of Obama's claim on citizenship rests initially with his father's status, the legal requirement to be listed on his visa, and whether or not anyone has yet taken action to do so.

Whatever else is involved, the mother wasn't yet 19, and there are legal challenges resting on that problem.

We don't even have to have him born abroad (in Kenya or wherever) to question his citizenship.

[ckilmer]

If, however, they fail to produce the other examples, I’ll have to start thinking unkind thoughts about this form # 44O47.

better look at the double take at the top of fr.

[jamese777]

Only if you agree that Obama is a “citizen by birth”. At the time he was born his father, a foreigner, was here as a student on a student visa. The law then required that he LIST any children born in the USA on his visa.
US citizens, of course, wouldn’t be required to be listed on such a visa, but here the law is clear. The question of Obama’s claim on citizenship rests initially with his father’s status, the legal requirement to be listed on his visa, and whether or not anyone has yet taken action to do so.

Whatever else is involved, the mother wasn’t yet 19, and there are legal challenges resting on that problem.

We don’t even have to have him born abroad (in Kenya or wherever) to question his citizenship.

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We are all now very aware of the fact that Mexican “anchor babies” born a minute after their illegal alien parents cross the border are American Citizens at Birth under the 14th Amendment.
Obama has a certified document from the state of Hawaii with the Registrar’s Seal and signature on it stating that he was born at 7:24 PM on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu.
If and until that document is proved in a court of law to be forged, altered or fraudulent, it stands as proof of Citizenship at Birth.
The very first test of Citizenship at Birth is place of birth within the United States regardless of the status of one’s parents. The only exception to this is children of diplomats from foreign nations.

[muawiyah]

The "anchor babies" are declared citizens through action of an erroneous interpretation of law. That same State Department letting in the Mexicans for so many years had earlier administered the law far differently.

BTW, the "agencies of government" do not rule from the Constitution ~ just the statutes and court decisions, so the 14th Amendment is not involved in any of this.

[jamese777]

The “anchor babies” are declared citizens through action of an erroneous interpretation of law. That same State Department letting in the Mexicans for so many years had earlier administered the law far differently.
BTW, the “agencies of government” do not rule from the Constitution ~ just the statutes and court decisions, so the 14th Amendment is not involved in any of this

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The 14th Amendment is precisely the reason why anchor babies are US Citizens at birth: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
The landmark US Supreme Court testing the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment was the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark from 1898. In a 6-2 decision the Supreme Court held that the Chinese immigrant Wong Kim Ark was a citizen at birth under the Fourteenth Amendment. A child born in the United States of parents of foreign descent who, at the time of the child’s birth are subjects of a foreign power but who have a permanent domicile and residence in the United States and are carrying on business in the United States, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under a foreign power, and are not members of foreign forces in hostile occupation of United States territory, becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth.

[muawiyah]

There you hit it on the head ~ "permanant residence" ~ Obama's father was a foreign student here under a student visa. He was NOT a permanent resident, nor did he intend to be one. In fact, he wanted to be a big cheese in Kenya, returned there, and did well (compared to others, although not as well as he wanted to do). Man was killed in an auto accident in an age when only the richest and most powerful people in African had an opportunity to do so.

Using that Supreme Court decision as our guide, it's pretty obvious that Obama, as his father's son, had no claim to American citizenship.

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HAVE YA’LL READ THE COMMENT SECTION!!!!! IT IS AUTHENIC...

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Comment Section:

Carl says: "I can't identify myself here because I'd lose my job. I'm a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that "The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic." I'm not surprised."

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Jason says: kitau says: "I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy." My copy also has republic of Kenya." August 3, 9:04 PM

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Comment Section:

Carl says: "I can't identify myself here because I'd lose my job. I'm a low level employee of the US State Department attached to the Overseas Service and I just finished a conference call with two lawyers in London and two journalists from Politico.com who all stated that they just left a late meeting at the London Foreign Office and they were assured that "The Kenyan birth certificate is without question, 100% authentic." I'm not surprised."

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Jason says: kitau says: "I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy." My copy also has republic of Kenya." August 3, 9:04 PM

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Look at my above post...comments sections of this article 2 different people state the BC from Kenya is authentic!!! Pass it on.......

[Plutarch]

These comments undoubtedly trace to DU'ers attempting to sow confusion and contention.

If anybody wants to post a photograph of their 1964 Kenya BC from the coast province they are welcome. But don't believe any unsourced anonymous claims.