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House panel approves health bill (Waxman committee)
Associated Press ^ | July 31, 2009 | David Espo & Erica Werner

Posted on 07/31/2009 6:18:14 PM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

WASHINGTON — Democrats have pushed sweeping health care legislation through a key congressional committee, clearing the way for a September showdown on President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

The 31-28 vote Friday came after majority Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee agreed to a last-minute series of changes including limiting how much health insurance companies can raise premiums.

The changes were made to placate liberal Democrats — who rebelled after a deal was struck earlier in the week with conservative Democrats.

Energy and Commerce was the last of three House committees to act on the health bill. The vote came on the last day of the House's session before its annual summer recess, sending Democrats home with some momentum on health care.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

WASHINGTON (AP) — After a bruising struggle, Democrats pushed sweeping health care legislation to the brink of passage in a key congressional committee on Friday, clearing the way for a September showdown in the House on President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.

As part of a last-minute series of changes, the Energy and Commerce Committee agreed to limit increases in the cost of insurance sold under the bill, and also to give the federal government authority to negotiate directly with drug companies for lower prices under Medicare.

The new provisions were part of an intensive effort Democrats have made in recent days to satisfy the conflicting demands of liberals and conservatives on the panel. "We have agreed we need to pull together," said Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., the committee chairman.

The measure is designed to extend health insurance to millions who now lack it, at the same time it strives to slow the growth in medical costs nationwid.

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To: manc

F Ted Kennedy..
If we don’t riot now we will deserve the Marxist government will most certainly will get.
yes , I said RIOT !


61 posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:39 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: sonic109

revolution is the solution!!!!!


62 posted on 07/31/2009 9:18:48 PM PDT by angelcindy ("If you follow the crowd,you get no further than the crowd")
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To: NoobRep
What else could a state do to protect it’s interests and it’s residents, other than secede from the union?

Well... Gov. Good Hair has said that he would invoke the 10th amendment and reject the Fed healthcare bill, if it passes. I really hope that Rick Perry really means what he says. It really is one way to reject this monstrosity without seceding from the union.

Secession is plan B.
63 posted on 07/31/2009 9:25:52 PM PDT by SpottedBeaver (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: sanjoaquinvalley
You're so right.

They want them dead because they're a drag on the System. The fewer to people to keep alive---the cheaper it is.

Notice that the Government is not offering "Free Burial Services"...

64 posted on 07/31/2009 9:53:51 PM PDT by melt (Someday they'll wish their Jihad... Jihadn't.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Maybe Waxman secretly stuck something in that bill that funds medical research on how to change a Mr. Potato Head / Rat hybrid into something resembling a human.


65 posted on 07/31/2009 9:55:52 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Sounds to me like someone has already flushed, and the nation is circling the bowl as we discuss this matter.


66 posted on 07/31/2009 10:27:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (_Resident of the United States and Kenya's favorite son, Baraaaack Hussein Obamaaaa...)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

still a close vote, which is good news. Got time to kill this thing...


67 posted on 07/31/2009 10:34:41 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: headstamp 2

Interesting point. I wonder if we’d get better healthcare in prison?


68 posted on 07/31/2009 10:43:17 PM PDT by TNdandelion (This should be fun.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

How can I relinquish my citizenship and become an illegal?


69 posted on 07/31/2009 10:51:11 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: St. Louis Conservative; All
Blue Dog Dems Report Card
70 posted on 07/31/2009 11:05:21 PM PDT by LucyJo
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To: St. Louis Conservative
In my opinion, This is the way the Health care thing will go down......

They create the Health Care Bill as their grand plan for humanity, then after much deliberation and protest the bill is whittled down to a fraction of the original bill, it will then be passed as a bipartisan bill.

Fast forward slightly in time. That will be when the incrementalization will begin.

Bit by bit there will be, by manufactured so called "necessity" incremental changes made to the bill until, over the years the final product will be........TADA!!!!!!

We will have the original intended draft of the bill in all of it's glory .....or even something much much worse.

Sadly, The so called Blue Dogs and moderate Republicans will probably be suckered into this time honored Democrat strategy.

Therefore this thing has to be stopped and buried right now!!!!

This horrible bill is unconstitutional and is a detriment to this country.

We need to wake up and realize that this is not about the huge price tag, it's about being ........UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!!!!

71 posted on 07/31/2009 11:15:51 PM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Repeal 16-17
My thought is that if the midterm election result in a Republican majority in both Houses of the Congress, ObamaCare could be repealed before it begins.

Rarely do Republicans roll back social programs so as not to anger those that are dependent upon them. But you may be right, in that this is so unpopular. But it would be an all out fight with the media and Democrats.

72 posted on 08/01/2009 12:07:13 AM PDT by TheThinker
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To: Diogenesis; appleseed; hiredhand; Jeff Head; Travis McGee

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the govt. will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS
that self insure!!

Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that decides what
treatments/benefits you get.

Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!

Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
Benefits for you. YOU have no choice!

PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens,
illegal or otherwise

Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individual’s finances & a
National ID Healthcard will be issued! [Mark of the Beast? Rev 13]

Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts
for electronic funds transfer

PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in
labor unions & community organizations [such as ACORN].

Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC Exchange to bring private HC plans
under Govt control.

PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC
plans in the Exchange

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifies Benefit Levels for all Plans [The Govt will
ration your Healthcare].

PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic services. Example -
Translation for illegal aliens

Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps
to sign up individuals For Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specifics of Benefit Levels for Plans. [AARP members
- your health care WILL be rationed]

-PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individuals (redefined
elsewhere as all those under 133% of poverty level) will be automatically
enrolled in Medicaid. [No choice]

Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Govt for price fixing. No “judicial
review” against Govt Monopoly.

Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what you
can earn.

Pg 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option
plan. [NO CHOICE]

Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND
their families. (this will cut a lot of jobs)

Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll of 400k & above who does not
provide public option Pays 8% additional tax on all payroll.

Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Business w payroll between 251k & 400k who doesn’t provide
public option pays 2-6% additional tax on all payroll

Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn’t have acceptable (who decides
what is acceptable?) HC according to Govt will be taxed additional 2.5% of
income

Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual
Taxes. [however, Americans will pay]

Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Administration [GOVT] will have
access to ALL Americans’ finance/personal records

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - “The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax” [Yes, it says that]

Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid,
Seniors, low income, poor, affected [Pay attention seniors]

Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn’t matter what specialty you have,
you’ll all be paid the same salary

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of Dr’s time, professional judgment, etc.
[Literally value of humans].

PG 265 Sec 1131Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC
industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven
wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. TREATMENT BY CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS - [Cancer patients -
welcome to rationing!]

Page 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what Govt deems
preventable readmissions.

Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Drs, treat a patient during initial admission that results
in a readmission-Govt will penalize you.

Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Drs. what/how
much they can own.

Pg 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating
hospitals cannot expand

Pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community
input required. [govt permission]

Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome based
measures. [HC the way they want. Rationing]

Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans,
HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan

Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people
[such as Downs Syndrome]

Pg 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory
Committee. [HC by phone?]

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. [Think Senior
Citizens: end of life]

Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills,
durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life
resources, guiding you in death [think mandatory Kervorkian]

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The
Govt has a say in how your life ends

Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An “advocate care planning consult” will be used frequently
as patients health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advocate care consultation” may include an ORDER for end
of life plans. [An ORDER from GOV]

Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of
life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will
have at end of life

Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations.
[ACORN Medical Services]

Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. Monthly payment to a
community-based organization. [Like ACORN]

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. [Which means
they will insert Govt into your marriage]

Pg 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining,
creating, rationing those services.


73 posted on 08/01/2009 12:31:21 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Jaw on floor. Thanks Squantos! This must be put into a mass emailing and mailed all over the country.


74 posted on 08/01/2009 2:40:51 AM PDT by Two Thirds Vote Aye (America is waking up to a hideous nightmare.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

It now becomes more important than ever to keep hammering our congressmen.

Keep those cards and letters going!


75 posted on 08/01/2009 3:48:19 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I once told my husband that Alan Colmes is the ugliest man I’ve ever seen.

I had forgotten about Waxman when I said that. I was wrong.


76 posted on 08/01/2009 3:50:40 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: melt

No they are on the way to confiscate 100% of the “aged-out” eliminated’s legacies. This way they can fund their own plans and get the prosthetic spinal surgery they have always avoided.


77 posted on 08/01/2009 4:12:42 AM PDT by Shady (The Fairness Doctrine is ANYTHING but fair!!!!)
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To: doc1019

With all due respect....

I just listened to Rick Santorum on Fox news. He was asked if he thought that the congress critters would be getting a lot of flak from their constituents. Santorum said something we all should keep in mind...

He said a lot of the congress guys were NOT scheduling any meetings with constituents, town halls, anything like that, for this very fear. He checked Arlen Specter’s schedule and saw NO public meetings scheduled for the duration of the recess.

Now this might be the norm but Santorum thought that the congress guys would go out of their way to avoid public confrontations and when you think about it, it’s exactly the kind of cowardly thing they’d do.

So all this talk about “hearing from constituents” might turn out a dud.

What HAS to be done are two things...first, the pubbies, dear lord get them out of the tanning booths cause they got to be all the hell over the place lambasting this thing. Give them a pep talk that a misplaced head hair never killed anyone.

Second, the constiuents might need to go TO the congress critter. Arrange “mass meetings” at the critter’s offices. My rep has THREE offices here in Delaware, I’m sure it’s like that across the fruited plains.

Point being it won’t do to sit out here in la-la land and wait for the mythical public meetings to bring the truth to these guys.

After all, who would willingly and knowingly walk into a ring of fire?


78 posted on 08/01/2009 5:12:45 AM PDT by Fishtalk (If you're a Freeper and have a Blog Freepmail me with the link. I'll do you if you do me.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

I’m not much of a praying man but I am earnestly praying this government take over of health care fails. I don’t have to tell anyone here this...but if the government gets control of health care, then it’s over. They will control our very existence.

I can just see a mandatory questionnaire as ordered by the health czar to be given to every patient during every routine examination.

Question 1: Do you own any firearms? If yes, see question 2.

Question 2: If you answered yes to question 1, have you had a mental health exam in the past year?

If you answered no to question 2, please inform your doctor immediately. A mental health exam will be scheduled for you.


79 posted on 08/01/2009 5:50:00 AM PDT by kamikaze2000
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To: MadisonChristian

believe me
not one Democrat will ever take this health care plan for themselves and their family.


80 posted on 08/01/2009 7:27:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman , nothing else-- end racism end affirmative action)
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