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FR Poll: Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
July 30, 2009 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?

Please elaborate.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: article2section1; barackobama; bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; colb; naturalborn; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; obamasecrets; poll
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely he is hiding something. I am not afraid to tell anyone that I do not recognize him as president because he has not proven to me that he is legitimately eligible to hold the office. I have told my congressman and senators the same thing. Still no birth certificate. Our government is beyond out of control.


241 posted on 07/31/2009 6:36:14 AM PDT by Madashel
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To: Jim Robinson

Absolutely he is hiding something. I am not afraid to tell anyone that I do not recognize him as president because he has not proven to me that he is legitimately eligible to hold the office. I have told my congressman and senators the same thing. Still no birth certificate. Our government is beyond out of control.


242 posted on 07/31/2009 6:36:15 AM PDT by Madashel
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Now who do you suppose would want conservatives to be focusing their energy and attention on this hopeless cause (while they leave issues like socialized medicine and RKBA and union power ignored on the back burner)?

Why is there the assumption that conservatives can only deal with one issue? There is only so much we can do on any issue, as a rule, and after the letters are written, the letters to the editor are submitted, often, we are on to the next issue. It is not unusual to be addressing a half-dozen issues at once, whether we post that here or not.

That a few have spent a great deal of time and effort to keep the rest of us informed is a good thing. It not only keeps us informed, it frees the rest to pursue other issues and keep the rest of us informed.

That is one of the strengths of this site, that some know considerably more about a particular issue or item than others, and lend that expertise so that the remainder might get up to speed. As a result, we are not duplicating efforts nearly as much as we might if we were all doing every bit of research from the ground up.

243 posted on 07/31/2009 6:37:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Mount Athos
The duel newspaper announcements are on the same level of proof as this snippet from an Indonesian source posted below. Either are submitted by others and neither would hold weight in a court of law...

Barrak Hussein Obama II was born to a white American Ann Dunham and Kenyan Barrak Hussein Obama Snr, in Nyang’oma Kogelo now in Kenya.

It is not the only foreign source we've found that has similar material. But if we post a link the posting is scrubbed almost immediately......So yes he is hiding something.

244 posted on 07/31/2009 6:39:10 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Jim Robinson

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Obama is a privileged African-American, who has not shared the black American experience. By birth, blood and training, he was a Muslim, who became a member of a Marxist, Black-African church. He is a socialist whose politics are rooted in Marx and whose methods were conceived by the communist, Alinsky. He is a master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief. He is not now, nor ever has been, a “natural born citizen” — he was, at birth, a British subject and citizen of Kenya — a fact published on his own website.

He has lived for almost 50 years without leaving any footprints. None!
There is no Obama documentation. There are no records, no bona fides, no paper trail-nothing! And he’s got an army of lawyers making sure it stays that way.
The unflattering stuff on the Internet? It’s systematically disappearing down the rabbit hole.

Original, vault copy birth certificate — Not released (lawyers’ fees = $2,000,000 ~ birth certificate = $15)

Certification of Live Birth — Released — Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released (if one exists)

Obama/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)

Kindergarten records — Records lost (this is a big one — see here — read two frames)

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School School application — Released (by independent investigators)

Punahou School records — Not released

Soetoro/Dunham divorce — Released (by independent investigators)

Selective Service Registration — Released — Counterfeit

Occidental College records — Not released

Passport — Not released and records scrubbed clean by Obama’s terrorism and intelligence adviser.

Columbia College records — Not released

Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament” — Not released

Harvard College records — Not released

Harvard Law Review articles — None

Illinois Bar Records — Not released.

Baptism certificate — None

Medical records — Not released

Illinois State Senate records — None

Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost

Law practice client list — Not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles — None

The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession. In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were “not kept.”

And there’s less on the web every day. In time, the entire Obama body of knowledge will consist of 3 documents — “Dreams From My Father” — “The Audacity of Hope” — and the latest — “Change We Can Believe In” — all written by Barack Hussein Obama or his “ghost-writers.”

Just an accident? I don’t think so

____________________

From the late, great ‘The Obama File’ by Beckwith
Retrieved from Google cach....soon to be gone

The United States Library of Congress has selected The Obama File for inclusion in its historic collections of Internet materials
http://www.theobamafile.com/LibraryOfCongress.html

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245 posted on 07/31/2009 6:39:37 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Jim Robinson

No, I don’t think he’s hiding anything. I think he’s put it all out in the open but is so arrogant as to think that he won’t get caught or will be able to talk his way out of any trouble.

For example, he mentioned nothing about his British citizenship at birth until the birth certificate controversy became a significant distraction to his campaign. To dispel the rumors about being born in Kenya, he announced that because his father was a British citizen that his own birth was governed by British citizenship laws. (How can a natural-born American citizen’s birth status be governed by another country’s laws?) He then tied his British citizenship to Kenya by admitting that he received Kenyan citizenship when Kenya obtained independence from Britain.

To negate the suspicion that having foreign citizenship might cause, he announced that he lost that citizenship when he failed to affirm it at 21 years of age. He cleverly distracted everyone from the real issue which is not that he had foreign citizenship at sometime in his life but that he had foreign citizenship at birth that puts his status as a natural-born American citizen into question. To further distract from that issue, he intentionally confuses “citizen” with “natural-born citizen.”

Being born on U.S. soil makes one a citizen through the 14th amendment, but it doesn’t automatically make one a natural-born citizen because the SCOTUS opinion in Wong Kim Ark stated that it wasn’t necessary at that time to resolve the doubts about whether or not children born on U.S. soil to foreign citizen parents were natural-born citizens. It was enough to answer the question at hand, which was whether or not such persons are citizens.

Obama releases details about his birth but distracts the public from troublesome sticking points with ancillary facts. And then we have all of these people chanting “Where’s the birth certificate” which further distracts from the question of Obama’s status as a natural-born citizen. We need a ruling from the SCOTUS. Nothing else will resolve the matter.


246 posted on 07/31/2009 6:40:09 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks..... :)


247 posted on 07/31/2009 6:40:32 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: Jim Robinson

He’s hidden a lot of things about his Commie background, but this Birther/citizenship conspiracy nonsense is an embarrassing distraction (for us, not him).


248 posted on 07/31/2009 6:41:02 AM PDT by Sloth (Irony: Freepers who call Ron Paul a "nut" but swallow all the birth certificate conspiracy crap.)
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To: Jim Robinson
It's a simple thing to put to rest. I have a pass port and a birth certificate. I can produce them at my house in a matter of minutes. I have not spent a million dollars to either acquire them...or to hide them.

This is not a unreasonable thing to ask for since being a "natural born citizen" of the US is a constitutional requirement for the job of President. It's not hateful, and it's not racist.

Proving that you are should be an honor.

Yet Obama cannot and will not produce either. Why?

THE AUDACITY OF TRUTH ABOUT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S UPBRINGING

249 posted on 07/31/2009 6:42:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jim Robinson
Yes. If he had nothing to hide, he would produce his birth certificate and college transcripts.
250 posted on 07/31/2009 6:43:57 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes.


251 posted on 07/31/2009 6:44:08 AM PDT by Stentor
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To: AnotherUnixGeek; All
No, I think the man was born in Hawaii as he claims and is the legitimately elected President of the United States.

If that is so, then why hasn't any bona fide documentation of that fact yet surfaced; i. e., a long form Hawaii birth certificate, similar to the ones the mother of the Nordyke twins (born the day after Obama was supposed to have been born and childhood friends of Obama) displayed for the Honolulu Advertiser earlier this week?

252 posted on 07/31/2009 6:44:11 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: jiminycricket000
Obama is a shady character

Anyone who is a reasonably good judge of character can see right through him.

253 posted on 07/31/2009 6:44:25 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: YellowRoseofTx

” I am so tired of reading this immature, stupid, bogus argument.”

I will check back with you in a year and we will see how this is working out for you....


254 posted on 07/31/2009 6:48:18 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: Jim Robinson
Of course he's hiding something. Otherwise, why go through the expense and effort?

He's hiding huge swaths of his past (we already know some of the things he has locked down). For a guy who has written written two(!) autobiographies he sure doesn't want people to verify any data and see who he is through official records. Whatever he is hiding, it no doubt contradicts what he has written and can't be allowed to see the light of day.

People don't hide personal things they are proud of or are telling the truth about. Whatever he is hiding, it will reveal him as a fraud and liar as a minimum.

It is hugh!

255 posted on 07/31/2009 7:06:30 AM PDT by Gritty (We are either going to stop Obama or the United States is going to cease to exist - Alan Keyes)
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To: luvEastTenn

“Sooner or later he will become a liability to the wrong people.”

Ultimately, this is what it will take to expose him.


There has been a lot of exposure already, but they have been able to marginalize it through ridicule.

When the Democrats realize that he is a political liability and close to blowing their perceived lock on Washington, I’m sure there will be some well-connected Democrats that will want to distance themselves for the sake of their own careers. They care about themselves and their own power much more than they care about us. I think a lot of them are beginning to see that he is a liability to them because people are becoming more vocal about their displeasure with the goings on in Washington. We have seen how being vocal about what we don’t like about the healthcare bill stopped its forward momentum. By sticking to the facts, throwing their own words back at them, we can slowly turn his allies more toward self-protection than Obama-protection. Presidents come and go. Senators and Representatives want their power for life, most of them. When he gets on their wrong side, they will drop him in a New York minute!

The protection from the media is beginning to crumble and we are seeing it first with those of lesser importance. Obama’s image is still largely being protected, but questions are starting to be asked, comments made.

When someone like Helen Thomas (NO PICTURES PLEASE!!!!) is upset with the guy and protesting his methods, you know his facade is crumbling, even with the media. NO ONE wants to be on the wrong side of the media. Look at what they did to Sarah Palin! I am outraged that they gave him a pass and skewered her!


256 posted on 07/31/2009 7:11:57 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this..")
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes, he’s a compulsive liar now and has lied about his origins.


257 posted on 07/31/2009 7:15:03 AM PDT by jazusamo (But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jla

Bernard Goldberg and I have a like theory..."
Ahh, referring to my "McCain Landslide Theory", I see...
258 posted on 07/31/2009 7:22:13 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Yes because he’s fought in court to hide birth records and he won’t release any school records (among others). His past is shadows and smoke. The Kenyan government also stated that his Kenyan family is off limits. He also has listed two hospitals for his birth, the first reference, Queens, has been scrubbed from the net. His claiming dual citizenship through Obama Sr has also been scrubbed.


259 posted on 07/31/2009 7:22:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
freepname

I was going to just make a new account but the system would not give two accounts to the same email - so I caught up with JR and he just changed it.

260 posted on 07/31/2009 7:27:22 AM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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