Posted on 07/27/2009 11:12:35 AM PDT by Danae
Ok here is a theory.
To preface what follows, I was born in Hawaii in 1969. I have both my long form BC and my COLB from that state.
My COLB was printed for me at my mothers request in a letter that was received (and confirmed by computer records by the Vital Stats office in the Hawaiian Dept of Health in Honolulu) and my COLB that I received should have had the date of Mar.6 2000. It states Mar. 6 2007 (!).
Stick with me through what follows.
Lets just say that in 2007 when Barry was really getting into running for President that he was facing some questions from the black community, which was indeed the case. The question in the black community was this: Is he black enough? Barry is 50% white, 44% Arab and 6% Black from the breakdown that I have repeatedly seen. So the black community isn’t sure they can support this guy because he is half white, and we have all heard the condescension that Black people have given to mulatto children. Certainly in my lifetime I can remember some rather racist black kids riding the mulatto kids I knew. Barry is most definitely Mulatto.
Ok so he has a problem with convincing the Black community to support him, and he NEEDS their support, and that of ACORN, the two go hand in hand.
So, Barry goes back to Hawaii on vacation, visits grandma. Grandma is VERY well connected in Honolulu. You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything. With connections, you can do just about anything, a favor is a favor, and Grandma likely had more than just a few to pull in. Thats just how the islands work. I am not going to try and explain it more than that, it would take too long. But I have connected family on Kauai to this day, so let’s just stipulate that I know what I am talking about.
Back to the story. Barry needs to solidly convince a lot of Black people that he has the creds to run from the Black community, to counter his detractors on the whole Black enough issue.
A COLB stating African would do that pretty convincingly. Grandma pulls a few strings and gets Barry a COLB that states African, and is actually a real document from the State of Hawaii because it indeed came from there, but under some false circumstances. Mainly that his race was African, when clearly it wasn’t, he had a White Mother. If anything, original COLB would have said Negro or Black. That might not be enough to counter the white half of his genetic make up in the Black Community, but stating “AFRICAN” WOULD. But I don’t think hid long form says Negro or Black, I think it classifies him as Caucasian.
So it is a “legit” document that was printed under false circumstances. I am theorizing that it was printed by someone in the Vital Statistics Office, but as my OWN COLB shows, by the messed up date, that anyone who knew how to do it could have printed one up with the information of choice, then put the seal on it folded it, and sent it on its way. The Date stamp on the Fact Check Document has the date stamp above Onaka’s name, which could only have been printed in the snail mail order room, like mine is. It is ALSO a separate room. There are three printing Machines in that office which could have been used, the front desk, which has a date stamper to the Side of Onaka’s stamp (also printed by the machines at the same time as the rest of the Document is printed), and the internet order area, which also has the stamp to the side, and the oldest machine, which has the date ABOVE Onaka’s stamp. Now I know this because while I was confirming the order date of my own COLB I did a little digging, and the clerk was very informative and helpful. Obama got a COLB that was printed in the Mail Order’s separate room. If it was ordered at the front desk, then it would have been printed there, not in the snail mail room, unless someone was going to change some of the info on it and wanted to conceal that...
Now is the date on the back of the fact check document on or about the same as one of his vacations to the Islands? I was told that it can take up to a month to process orders, but I think he likely got it handed to him on or about the same time he or Grandma ordered it. In reality that doesn’t matter, Grandma could have pulled strings at any time and had it mailed to him.
Now, because the COLB that Barry has is legit looking, all he has to do is make sure his Long Form Birth Certificate NEVER sees the light of day, and that his school records and financial aid applications never see the light of day either. Why? Because his Long form would say that he is Caucasian, and his school records/financial aid, under his Barry Soetoro name show him to be a foreigner from Indonesia. I could go into the whole Immigration status thing, which I do think has some validity to it, and certainly has not been looked at by a Court AS OF YET, so I will leave that alone for now, it could well be he is a citizen, but because of dual citizenship issues, he is not a Natural Born citizen.
But I digress.
OK so he now has his Black enough Street creds, and a “legit” COLB, he should be in the clear right? Only if you assume that the COLB he has was gotten in 2007 was 100% legit, and I have proof that a COLB can have incorrect information in it - Because MINE DOES.
Some time ago, I remember reading that Barry’s lawyer that had seen the document said that he was indeed born in Hawaii, but that his records contained information that would be “embarrassing”. Is Caucasian embarrassing enough? Is lying to the Black Community enough? Is gaining their support with a lie embarrassing enough? Do you think it possible that once this information became public, with the release of a Long Form BC stating he was Caucasian, that the black community would become apathetic to him in part or in whole?
Add to this, Barry describes his grandmother as the rock of his family, as well as describing her as “afraid of Black men”, do you think that she, with her connections, her strength of charachter, and a wayward 17 year old daughter having shown some poor decision making in the recent past from Grandma’s perspective, could have required that her daughter state the race of her child as accurately being predominately white, which he is? I do indeed think so.
Folks, I think that Barry may well have been born in Hawaii, solid evidence of some other place being missing, that he was registered with the office of Vital Statistics as being Caucasian. He states in his book that he HAD all his birth records at one time, why would he need a new COLB in 2007 if that’s the case? Because he needed one that would gain him the support of the Black Community, and indeed they got a real live “African” even better!!
So if this theory is true, do you think that come 2011 that the black community is going to be as fired up about their lying Mulatto pretending to “African” status? Ummm hummmm.
Do you think they would have supported him as strongly as they did in 2008 as a mostly white guy?? As the messiah? As the ONE? I don’t think so. I could be wrong on that... But I don’t think so. Perceptions matter sometimes, and there is a world of difference in perceiving Barry as African and White. All the difference in the world to the Black Community, enough to win the Presidency.
Remember, he only won by a few percentage points. His electoral numbers came from fewer total states that had higher numbers of Blacks in the population.
- Flame retardant garment status = ON.
Tear the theory apart please!
According to a friend (A Black Minister from Chicago to be exact) that this was the case. He did have a problem with the whole Black enough question.
7% lower numbers and Barry would have lost. He only won by what 4%?
50% Caucasian, 50% African, 0% American.
A good theory. I have speculated a different ‘embarrassing’ reason Obama would want to keep the details of his birth a secret. The whole timeline just points to concealing Stanley Ann during her pregnancy. There’s no record of her whereabouts from January 61 until August 61—when she would have been showing. That’s what began to make me wonder about his actual parentage. I mean, he could be an illegitimate child from an affair Stanley had with some woman of color. It seems so odd to me that Stanley Ann was so willing to leave the baby (and her alleged husband) in Hawaii 3 weeks after he was born to head back up to Washington to school. It also explains the lack of a marriage record, because they were never really married—it was only a cover story—maybe they paid BHO Sr to go along. It would explain the ‘fake’ Hawaii address for the newspaper announcement because that could have been faked by Grandma Toot. It would explain why Grandma and Grandpa ‘raised’ him, except for the four years in Indonesia with his ‘sister (?)’ It would explain why Obama Sr. never had any interest in BHO—because he wasn’t really his. That would explain the physical similarities to Stanley. It would explain why Obama doesn’t want to release the original birth records because it would show adoption records, name changes, etc. Perhaps this whole thing was concocted to cover up an affair Stanley Dunham had where he impregnated some young black girl. It would explain why, as a teenager, after he found his birth certificate, he went began to rebel, do drugs, etc. It would explain why he was so interested in getting Grandma Toot’s ashes tossed into the sea (now, no one could verify he had no DNA connection to her) and would also explain the photos on the internet of Michelle leaping into Obama’s arms with joy after the scattering of the ashes ceremony in Hawaii. Don’t you think this storyline would explain Obama’s secrecy, outside of a “born in Africa” scenario?
Flame away...
How so? I was given to understand that Barak Hussein Obama the first was largely of Arab decent. I certainly don’t want to promote a theory that is incorrect because of the foundation of its premises... Not sure that it makes that much of a difference. The reality was, he had a real issue with the Black community that was asking if he was black enough.
Birth Certificate and Certificate of Live Birth. While I agree on the use of acronyms, I just have to ask. You new to this issue?
“You don’t get to the position of VP of Hawaii’s largest bank and NOT be connected. In Hawaii connections are everything.”
My experience with banks (I've owned my own businesses for nearly 25 years, and as a result have dealth with many different banks on a business level for decades) suggests that at most banks the title of “vice president” is typically given to the managers of most branches. Thus, it's a front-line or mid-level supervisory position, not a senior executive position.
Ms. Dunham’s wikipedia entry has the position merely as “vice president” with no indication that she was more than, say, a branch manager.
That's not to say that she had an unimportant job. A branch manager of any significant business is a pretty good job.
But from what I've been able to see, she wasn't something like a senior executive vice president with her own key to the executive bathroom.
If you have evidence to the contrary, I'd appreciate seeing it.
Thanks,
sitetest
I’m curious about Obama being part Arab. It stands to reason given the intermixing that happened during the slave trade. Not sure about Obama’s tribe. Anyone know the facts?
Now that is an interesting theory. I thought it (the long form BC) might show that his father wasn’t who we were told but maybe Frank Marshall or Malcolm X or whoever but your theory is pretty interesting.
Remember also....Obama ran against Bobby Rush (Black Panther) for Congress and lost. He probably lost that race because...you guessed it...he wasn’t black enough. So it’s not like he hasn’t had experience with this sort of thing.
“there is a mountain of information on his past life that is being purposefully kept under wraps. Being done for a reason.”
Bingo.
Barack Obama Sr is obviously African. Some people believe he is an Arab because he is Muslim but that is simply not true.
All of his sealed records simply keep this birth certificate story alive. Really, we know NOTHING about this person in comparison with virtually everyone else who has ever run for President. The secrecy makes it very easy to believe there is something to hide. In fact, to believe otherwise would defy logic.
Maybe. I can’t say either way. All I know is that the simplest answer is usually the correct one, Occam’s razor and what not. But even saying that, your theory could be close to the truth.
That's true.
I could imagine the imperious BHO, Sr., standing over the clerk and insisting that he is an African VIP from Kenya, not a Negro, like the descendants of those slaves his ancestors rounded up and sold to the Dutch slave traders.
“Complete BS. He has no Arab blood.”
Ummmm... Where have you been hiding? Yeah, 44% Arab unless Obama Sr. was not his real father! So, I guess maybe we don’t know, but Obama Sr. surely was mostly Arab.
I believe she worked in the Main Branch in Honolulu, I remember reading that somewhere, and I remember seeing something to that effect at her Hawaiian wake that was given before Obama got there for the funeral.
I am going from memory on this I fully admit. If this indeed correct, the information is on the net someplace.
Darn right. Don't you remember the song parody, "Barack, the Magic Negro"? It featured Paul Shanklin doing an Al Sharpton imitation—fulminating that Obama wasn't "black authentically like me." It echoed comments on the public record by the real Sharpton.
Maybe it wasn’t the blacks that needed convincing.
Maybe it was the guild laden whites...
I don’t know about this particular theory, but I would like to see more speculation on what he could be hiding other than his place of birth.
I have not been following this closely, so I could well have my facts wrong and feel free to correct me.
There were birth announcements in the two local newspapers saying he was born, so I think he likely was born in Hawaii. But the address given in the papers is wrong, the neighbors say there was no such family next door at the time. I don’t know what to make of that but it’s really odd.
It’s especially odd that he doesn’t release his birth certificate.. So he’s hiding something, maybe not where he was born. What else could it be?
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