Posted on 07/17/2009 4:11:33 PM PDT by madison10
Edited on 07/17/2009 4:30:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
One of the most outrageous mandates in the Democratic health care bill is found on page 416. [Mod note: try pp 425-426] On this page, you will see mandatory “end of life” counseling for seniors every five years. With this counseling, they will be spoken to about the different end of life choices that can be undertaken.
This is crazy. How could some Democrat not get an amendment approved during committee to remove this page of the new health care legislation?
This is only one outrage contained in this bill. If Obama has his way, forcing this bill to be voted on next week without members and citizens to actually see what is in it, we will definitely be surprised the next time we try to go see a doctor.
Call Democrat Mike Ross and ask him to stop this bill in committee. Also tell him you’ll donate to his campaign and do so, after he stops this bill. The energy committee must pass the bill to get it to the floor. There are many conservative Dems on that committee. Only 7 are needed to kill it. They had 10 yesterday. They need your support. Two other committees already passed it today. We need to call today. Also, can someone else post the names of other blue dog Dems on that committee? Thanks.
You can see the entire 1018 page health care bill here.
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Of course, that's true. However, in practice, for the vast majority who sign the standard forms without a full understanding what's in them, that's what it has become. The standard, template advance directives downloaded by the millions off the internet, and shoved at people in the hospital are straight DNR orders. Unless, as you point out, you have one that you've drawn up yourself, or you take the time to cross out and add stuff, you're authorizing DNR, and withholding of hydration and nutrition.
My parents had their lawyer draw up theirs, thinking they were getting something custom to their wishes, but it was the standard withhold-treatment stuff. They were horrified when I went over it and informed them of what they'd actually agreed to. (They quickly had that advance directive changed to orders that accurately reflected what they wanted.)
When my mother-in-law was admitted to the emergency room (fortunately, I was with her), the staff was adamant she sign their DNR, even though I told them there was one on file with her doctor, and at this specific hospital (which explicitly overruled the standard language.) They were not pleased, and persisted in pushing their own paperwork. I finally took it, x'd out the offending passages and wrote in DO PROVIDE Hydration, Nutrition, antibiotics, etc. And I made it very clear that I, or another of her family would be with her until she was released.
I urge all Freepers to make very sure of what they've signed, and to make sure their loved ones do, too, as well as their primary care doctors. The stuff that's being pushed on unsuspecting people is far more draconian than most people realize. Even if a person has decided on DNR, for themselves or their minor child, they may not feel the same way about withholding basic hydration.
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Yeah. It’s really simple. “We aren’t going to give you the treatment you need so to make the dying process a little more palatable, here’s some counseling.”
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Do not pass GO, Do not collect your next Social Security check, and oh BTW, sign over your entire estate to Obama, Inc ...
What? You must think this is the old days, when it was the LIBERALS who were the knee-jerkers.
America already has surpassed the Nazi death toll many times over with abortion. 50+ million surgical abortions in the US alone since 1973. The next step is mass murder of the born.
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ONE NATION UNDER GOD – OR ONE NATION GONE UNDER.
Exactly! There's a very ghoulish segment of the broader Pro-Life community that believes that misleading people and horrifying deaths help their cause. If we are saying that the Government owns us, then let's say it. But as long as we are adults able to make our own judgments, we should have a full range of options, not just removal of hydration, etc.
"Oh...boy. Shades of all the worst-case Sci-fi movies I ever saw."
1 posted on Friday, July 17, 2009 7:11:33 PM by madison10
Here we go...
First, Ginsburg puts out the feelers on eugenics...
Now Population Control Obama-style.
Don't take the shots!
Not the rest of the Bill, just that one amendment.
“Oh, I see you’re the government counselor from the Social Security Administration, here to talk about end-of-life scenarios.”
“Yes Indeed, Mr. Robinson, may I come in?”
“Surely. Misters Smith and Wesson are already in the the kitchen and eagerly looking forward to a lively exchange on the topic.”
I always say, give me a call on your 79th birthday and tell me the same thing.
Always remember, there is no such thing as an Atheist on a crashing airplane.
I guess Steven Wright’s joke about having an expiration on his birth certificate isn’t so funny now
Without the political opposition of pro-life Catholics, Protestants, and religious conservatives, they would. They are now starting the campaign for population control.
“How do they define old?”
Whether or not you follow and Obey 0. Whether you’re 30 or 70.
Just say "No!" to Population Control!
Ditto there my FRiend!
Why old people? People die at all different ages. It is the younger people who are less prepared to die.
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Old people gots da money (estate taxes) !!!
Lord, please help us to stop Obamacare.
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