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Mayor Ray Nagin's advice breaks census rules
The Times-Picayune ^
| 7-10-2009
| Michelle Krupa
Posted on 07/11/2009 10:44:38 AM PDT by liberty75
Aiming to maximize federal grant money and offer proof of his city's recovery, Mayor Ray Nagin is urging Hurricane Katrina victims still living elsewhere -- and longing to return -- to record New Orleans as their home when the U.S. Census Bureau conducts its decennial head count next spring.
Problem is, that strategy doesn't mesh with census rules, federal officials say.
In an e-mail response to questions about the much-anticipated count, Nagin spokesman James Ross said this week: "An area of major concern relates to New Orleanians working to return here. Many are repairing their homes, and others are trying to work out other life details.
"Mayor Nagin has called for all New Orleanians to list New Orleans as home if they plan to move back, " he said.
The unusual appeal flies in the face of a federal policy dating back more than two centuries that requires people to be counted, with few exceptions, at the address where they are "living or staying" on the official census day, which falls next year on April 1.
"The residency rule is what it's been since 1790, " said Gabriel Sanchez, director of the Census Bureau's regional office in Dallas, which oversees Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas. "We need to count people where they live, not where they plan to live or where they want to live."
Getting an accurate count, he said, is vital to guiding the distribution of $300 billion annually in federal grants and to the distribution of seats in Congress.
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2010census; census; censusfraud; corruption; democrats; hurricanekatrina; nagin; neworleans; raynagin; voterfraud
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To: liberty75
41
posted on
07/11/2009 4:16:23 PM PDT
by
Costumed Vigilante
(Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
To: gwilhelm56
Just do what I'm going to do. This is the letter that I'll be enclosing with a copy of the cesus form they send me.
To Whom it May Concern:
I have recently received the enclosed Census 2010 form.
The Constitutions Article I, Section 2 states: The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law Direct. This simple statement in the Constitution gives the Federal Government the power to count the number citizens in each state.
Nowhere does it authorize the Federal Government to compel the citizens to divulge their housing payment arrangements.
Nowhere does it give the Federal Government the power to compel citizens to provide their phone number.
Nowhere does it give the Federal Government the power to compel citizens to divulge their sex, age and date of birth.
Nowhere does it give the Federal Government the power to compel citizens to divulge their race or ethnic heritage.
The Tenth Amendment to the Constitution limits the Federal Governments powers to only those that are specifically delegated to it by the Constitution. This means that the Federal Government cannot usurp powers that have not been granted to it in the Constitution. An example of this usurpation of power is your implied threat of legal action against me if I do not respond to this form completely. The Census Bureau, as a representative of the United States Government, only has the power to enumerate me. My name is XXXX XXXXXX. I live at XXXX XXXXX Dr. Apt. XXXX., XXXXXX, TX. My wife is Mrs XXXXXXX XXXXXX of the same address. Consider me and my wife officially enumerated. Now you can determine how many congressman my state should have.
I will not provide you with any of the other information you request and you cannot compel me to without overstepping the Constitutional limits on your powers. Do not send a representative to my house. I will not answer the door.
Signed XXXXXXX
42
posted on
07/11/2009 4:38:01 PM PDT
by
CMS
( obama pres & dem majority----RIP United States of America 1776-2008 It was great while it lasted.)
To: liberty75
Uuuuh, like, here's some advice you dumbass. Uuuhh, why didn't you like use those thousands of school buses in the parking lot to like, evacuate your citizens or something, before the uuuhh, hurricane Katherine or Kat thing?
Oh, yeh. Yeh, eh, heh. It's all FEMA and George Bush's fault, yeah!
43
posted on
07/11/2009 5:12:01 PM PDT
by
Eric Blair 2084
(Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
To: gwilhelm56
44
posted on
07/11/2009 6:33:17 PM PDT
by
fishergirl
(My warrior, my soldier, my hero - my son. God bless our troops!)
To: CMS
..in such Manner as they shall by Law Direct.. Plenty of wiggle room apparently.
45
posted on
07/11/2009 6:38:35 PM PDT
by
ecomcon
To: Texas Eagle
The only question a person is legally required to answer is the amount of people in the household. The rest of the questions are like someone else posted, NOYFB. If you only answer that one question, you can look forward to someone from the census board calling you and TELLING you, you HAVE to answer all questions or you will be fined and possibly spend some time in jail. But no matter what they say, you can tell them to stick it.
To: liberty75
It's okay, he's Black.
It's racist to ask Black people to follow any rules.
For example...when will the fake accuser of the Duke University boys be charged? Not ever, she's Black.
47
posted on
07/11/2009 6:57:39 PM PDT
by
blam
To: liberty75
I have to say I’m very surprised. I have come to respect mayor Nagin as an honest, just straight talking statesman.... O.K. I couldn’t even type that with a straight face.
48
posted on
07/11/2009 7:03:52 PM PDT
by
gondramB
To: liberty75
Mayor Nagin, with ACORN right there they will figure out a way to corrupt the census for you. Have no fear.
49
posted on
07/11/2009 7:26:44 PM PDT
by
OafOfOffice
(Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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Comment #51 Removed by Moderator
To: liberty75
What about the vaunted Obama dialog? Giving up already?
52
posted on
07/11/2009 7:55:49 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
To: EGPWS
53
posted on
07/11/2009 8:04:31 PM PDT
by
diji
To: fishergirl
**Thats my answer too!**
3 live here ... as for the rest of the questions... YOU FILL THEM OUT ... YOU’re GOING TO, Anyway!!
54
posted on
07/11/2009 8:19:12 PM PDT
by
gwilhelm56
(Orwell's 1984 - To Conservatives, a WARNING - to Liberals, a TEXTBOOK!)
To: diji
47% of the residents of New Orleans cannot read or write.
55
posted on
07/11/2009 8:35:02 PM PDT
by
blam
To: The Pack Knight
They want to screw the cities which have been hosting them for years. Or are they gonna make sure they are counted twice — in both places?
To: CMS
Ping for future reference!
57
posted on
07/11/2009 9:51:38 PM PDT
by
RedCell
(Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / Declaration of Independence - 5th sentence)
To: MHGinTN
The article I’m replying to has an example of “media” people discouraging participation.
58
posted on
07/11/2009 9:53:31 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: MHGinTN
Oops, I was aiming for #39, sorry.
59
posted on
07/11/2009 9:54:28 PM PDT
by
DBrow
To: Eric Blair 2084
Well, don't forget that Mayor Nagin was a GWB supporter (incl donations, speeches, etc.) before Katrina.
But methinks the love is now gone. :`-(
60
posted on
07/11/2009 11:59:04 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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