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US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 12, 2009 | Tom Leonard

Posted on 06/12/2009 11:11:02 AM PDT by Schnucki

Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

The government looking at expanding a pioneering scheme in Flint, one of the poorest US cities, which involves razing entire districts and returning the land to nature.

Local politicians believe the city must contract by as much as 40 per cent, concentrating the dwindling population and local services into a more viable area.

The radical experiment is the brainchild of Dan Kildee, treasurer of Genesee County, which includes Flint.

Having outlined his strategy to Barack Obama during the election campaign, Mr Kildee has now been approached by the US government and a group of charities who want him to apply what he has learnt to the rest of the country.

Mr Kildee said he will concentrate on 50 cities, identified in a recent study by the Brookings Institution, an influential Washington think-tank, as potentially needing to shrink substantially to cope with their declining fortunes.

Most are former industrial cities in the "rust belt" of America's Mid-West and North East. They include Detroit, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Baltimore and Memphis.

In Detroit, shattered by the woes of the US car industry, there are already plans to split it into a collection of small urban centres separated from each other by countryside.

"The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee. "Decline is a fact of life in Flint. Resisting it is like resisting gravity."

Karina Pallagst, director of the Shrinking Cities in a Global Perspective programme at the University of California, Berkeley, said there was "both a cultural and political taboo" about admitting decline in America.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: California; US: Michigan; US: Pennsylvania
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To: dragnet2

As we may have discussed before, Center City is still in good shape, and their has been some (not enough) improvement in the near North. See our heritage in Independence Park, hit a restaurant and do your shopping on Walnut Street, but don’t go north of the expressway or west of 30th Street Station unless you want to see the Fourth World.


21 posted on 06/12/2009 11:19:02 AM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: Schnucki

Sounds good to me. The section 8 jerks can camp in a park or live in a tree.


22 posted on 06/12/2009 11:19:08 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: JRios1968
"Where have we heard this term before...hmmmm... "

Well, some of those places could use some pacification.

23 posted on 06/12/2009 11:19:49 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
I think this is where it will be in < 5 yrs...


24 posted on 06/12/2009 11:20:05 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Owl_Eagle

This idea in places like Detroit (iirc) where there are tens of thousands of empty houses, may not be a bad one.


25 posted on 06/12/2009 11:20:46 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Schnucki
sounds eerily similar to a plan implemented by Nicolae Ceauşescu in Romania, shortly before they strung him up. Bulldozing large sections of Flint is an idea that has occurred to some other people. Would make an interesting plot for yet another Michael Moore film...
26 posted on 06/12/2009 11:21:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Schnucki
Who is going to own the cleared properties? Let me guess.....Comrade Obama
27 posted on 06/12/2009 11:21:05 AM PDT by TexasBeth
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To: Schnucki
how dumb. especially for the fedgov. Let the cities do what they like, especially 25% of Detroit.

Don't force cities to condemn private property.

bye bye property rights

28 posted on 06/12/2009 11:21:13 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Schnucki
While the New Urbanism crowd is looking to march suburbanites back into the cities and plow their houses under.

Vee like being crowded into cities. You vill too.

29 posted on 06/12/2009 11:21:25 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Chrysler and GM are what Marx meant by the means of production.)
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To: Schnucki

The Kenyan has already bulldozed his way through The Constitution, so what’s a few cities here or there?


30 posted on 06/12/2009 11:21:41 AM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: GeronL

property rights? what’s that?

That’s so... old America.


31 posted on 06/12/2009 11:22:21 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Schnucki

it could also take the concept of Gerrymandering to a whole new level...


32 posted on 06/12/2009 11:24:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: FreeSouthernAmerican
What if I don’t want to live in a crowded, stinky area?

We'll have none of that talk. Now, run along little worker bee and get back to your assigned task in the hive.

33 posted on 06/12/2009 11:24:26 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: Schnucki
Obama administration ... economic decline
34 posted on 06/12/2009 11:24:45 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (0bama - A waste is a terrible thing to mind)
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To: Schnucki

Many of our large cities seem to not be able to sustain themselves. It’s usually blamed on some policy, stupidity, lack of planning, politics, demographics — something that was a mistake.

But maybe these large concentrations of people, streets and other things are inherently self-destroying, and that fixing the cities is not a matter of eliminating mistakes. Perhaps they reach a point where bulldozing and restarting is the only cure, along with a hope that the rebuilt cities will fare better.


35 posted on 06/12/2009 11:25:05 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: ConservativeMan55
HOnestly he is right about this, though I am somewhat amazed there is no

Shrinkage Czar -

Cities like Buffalo, where I grew up are laid out for more than a half a million people, right now the population is south of two hundred and fifty thousand. There are neighborhoods falling apart and it would be nice if the city would just plow them over make some Olmsted like parks and imporve live in the city..

36 posted on 06/12/2009 11:27:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: N3WBI3

LOL


37 posted on 06/12/2009 11:28:53 AM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Clemenza
A lot of Kensington, too.

I worked at two offices in the area ( one block from K&A and Hunting Park) in 1999. Lots of boarded up homes and businesses then. It must be worse now, and the blight has probably moved further up Frankford Ave.

38 posted on 06/12/2009 11:29:01 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Zeddicus

“Now, run along little worker bee and get back to your assigned task in the hive. “

Somebody needs to photoshop obama into a borg image...hehe


39 posted on 06/12/2009 11:29:16 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Schnucki
The real question is not whether these cities shrink – we're all shrinking – but whether we let it happen in a destructive or sustainable way," said Mr Kildee.

We're not shrinking in Texas, but if enough more Californians move here to vote in the stuff that killed California, all bets are off.

40 posted on 06/12/2009 11:29:39 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (We're all criminals. They just haven't figured out what some of us have done yet.)
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