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Storm center over Pelosi
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| May 14, 2009
| Mike Soraghan and Jared Allen
Posted on 05/14/2009 6:01:04 PM PDT by jazusamo
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) acknowledged on Thursday that she knew in 2003 that terrorism suspects were waterboarded.
During a tense press conference, Pelosi sought to deflect criticism to the CIA, which she said lied to her about the practice.
Pelosi said she learned of the waterboarding after her national security aide, Mike Sheehy, sat in on a February 2003 briefing with her successor on the committee, Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.). Sheehy has since left Pelosis office.
Pelosi defended herself for not speaking out at the time about information disclosed in a classified briefing. Asked why she did not co-sign a formal objection by Harman after Sheehy was told of the waterboarding, Pelosi said any objection by Harman or herself would have done little good.
No letter could change the policy, she said. It was clear we had to change the leadership in Congress and in the White House. That was my job, the Congress part.
The controversy over what Pelosi knew and when she knew it has erupted into one of the toughest fights of her speakership. Republicans have criticized Pelosi for tacitly agreeing to practices she considers torture in the wake of Sept. 11, 2001, and then going after the Bush administration now that political winds have shifted.
Her accusation in her weekly press conference Thursday raised the stakes in that fight, pitting her against the agency charged with fighting international terrorism. And she twisted the knife when she compared the agencys interrogation briefings to its faulty intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, a sensitive topic at the CIA.
Those briefings gave me inaccurate and incomplete information, Pelosi told reporters at her weekly news conference.
At the same time, the Bush administration was misleading the American people about the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Asked if she was saying the briefers had lied to her, she said, Yes, misleading the Congress of the United States. She said the CIA misled us all the time, and agreed that the agency should release notes of the briefing, as Republicans have requested.
Republicans, who have reveled in watching Pelosi squirm, accused her of changing her story. One dubbed her account Pelosi 5.0.
I think the problem is that the Speaker has had way too many stories on this issue, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) said at his weekly news conference. Its pretty clear that [Democratic leaders] were well-aware of what these enhanced interrogation techniques were, they were well-aware that they had been used, and it seems to me that they want to have it both ways.
He also said he found Pelosis assertion that she was misled by the CIA highly dubious.
Ive dealt with our intelligence professionals for the last three and a half years on an almost daily basis, and its hard for me to imagine that our intelligence area would ever mislead a member of Congress ... I dont know what motivation they would have to mislead anyone.
The CIA stood by the account of its briefings, which were released last week after a request from Republicans.
The language in the chart a description of the particular EITs [enhanced interrogation techniques] that had been employed is true to the language in the agencys records, said George Little, a CIA spokesman.
The CIA records indicate Pelosi was briefed specifically about interrogation methods used on suspected terrorist Abu Zubaydah. But the records dont specifically cite the practice of waterboarding.
Pelosi said that she was told specifically in a 2002 briefing that waterboarding was not being used.
The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed, said Pelosi, who was briefed at the time as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.
Pelosi is facing criticism on an issue where Democrats thought they were going after wrongdoing by the Bush administration. Shes been jabbed for convoluted answers not just by her critics but even by the usually Democrat-friendly Daily Show with Jon Stewart.
Despite the furor, Pelosi does not appear to be losing the backing of her fellow Democrats. The liberals most angered about the use of abusive tactics are backing her and insist the fault lies with the Bush administration. When the Democratic Caucus went behind closed doors Thursday morning, no one asked about it, according to sources.
After the press conference, eight of the 13 Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee assembled with talking points to back up Pelosi. They said members of Congress, especially those in the minority, have almost no power to change intelligence policies.
It is ridiculous to argue that the Speaker, who was then the ranking minority member of the Intelligence Committee, could have prevented President Bush from carrying out this policy, said House Intelligence panel Chairman Silvestre Reyes (D-Texas).
Questions about Pelosis briefing have dominated this weeks news cycle, and built up to her press conference on Thursday.
Reporters filled up the scarce seats in the small room early, despite Pelosis reputation for starting well after the scheduled time, and the session drew more than its regular share of cable news personalities.
When Pelosi started, she deviated from her standard practice of speaking from notes or off the cuff. Four minutes into the press conference, she started reading a statement.
Pelosi prefaced her explanation with a review of her long record of human-rights work, which she called a great focus of my time, even before I came to Congress and here, and by reminding the room of her oath pledging never to disclose classified information.
The Speaker then reiterated her previous explanations that she had been briefed only once in 2002, when she was the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee.
I was informed then that the Department of Justices opinions had concluded that the use of enhanced interrogation techniques were legal. The only mention of waterboarding at that briefing was that it was not being employed, she said, slowly punctuating each of the last four words for extra emphasis.
All but two of the 16 questions the Speaker took were on her past statements. Two questions about healthcare drew a mix of audible laugher and booing from the crowd of reporters.
When she tried to leave, she was drawn back by a persistent television reporter. When she finally left, it was on the arm of her longtime communications director, Brendan Daly.
TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cia; ciainterrogation; ciainterrogationmemo; lied; pelosi; torture; waterboarding
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Yet another article on Pelosi and the CIA
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:01:04 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
To: jazusamo
Update: Fox showed her news conference in which she said the CIA lied to her about the interrogation techniques. And the Leftist Press Whores simply smiled and said nothing.
2
posted on
05/14/2009 6:03:24 PM PDT
by
pabianice
To: jazusamo
The only thing scarier than Pelosi 2nd in line for presidency is the fact that Biden is before her
3
posted on
05/14/2009 6:04:04 PM PDT
by
Cruz
("Wherever there is a jackboot stomping on a human face there will be a well-heeled Western liberal t)
To: Cruz
I think she is soon not going to be in line for the Presidency. Time will tell.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:07:48 PM PDT
by
Enterprise
(The Porkulus brought us economic swine flu.)
To: pabianice
Yep, I saw it and they hardly flinched, a Repub would have been grilled by everyone there.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:08:02 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
Two questions about healthcare drew a mix of audible laugher and booing from the crowd of reporters. I'm sure these were suck-up questions, but three years from now, we're going to wish that a lot more questions were asked about Obama's plan to socialize medicine.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:11:16 PM PDT
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me knowr)
To: jazusamo
she deviated from her standard practice of speaking from notes or off the cuff. Four minutes into the press conference, she started reading a statement.TOTUS rules! TOTUS rules! Total domination.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:12:05 PM PDT
by
NonValueAdded
(May God save America from its government; this is no time for Obamateurs. Emmanuel = Haldeman?)
To: jazusamo
As Rahm Emanuel would say, this crisis must not be allowed to go to waste. The Republicans must not limit their attack to Pelosi. Every Democrat who egged us on to take out Saddam, then later claimed that Bush lied to take us into war in Iraq, is just as vulnerable. That means Kerry, Kennedy, Gore, and many many others.
To: jazusamo
This traitor needs a mental health sabbatical.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:14:23 PM PDT
by
Carley
(OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
To: Aquinasfan
Agreed, everyone already knows she’s lying on this but the healthcare thing is going to be a disaster if it’s passed.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:14:23 PM PDT
by
jazusamo
(But there really is no free lunch, except in the world of political rhetoric,.: Thomas Sowell)
To: jazusamo
That is one bi!ch of a woman...don't mess with her, she has mob ties to boot. The sooner she is removed from the scene, the better. She is an artist at deflection, misdirection and just plain deception. GET RID OF HER!
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:15:33 PM PDT
by
BatGuano
(USAF 1962-1967 Pelosi is torture don'cha think?)
To: Aquinasfan
For whatever reason Pelosi has always gotten grief from the presstitutes at her weekly lie-fest.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:15:34 PM PDT
by
Carley
(OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
To: Carley
Her comments are beneath contempt.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:17:53 PM PDT
by
pompelmous
(Unintended consequences)
To: Cruz
You know she fantasizes about Obama and Biden dying. You just know it.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:18:44 PM PDT
by
Psycho_Bunny
(ALSO SPRACH ZEROTHUSTRA)
To: Psycho_Bunny
Just the thought of her fantasizing, about anything, gives me the creeps.
To: jazusamo
I hope they talk about it night and day until she resigns and moves to France.
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:24:30 PM PDT
by
Redgirl
(Careful what you wish for, Madame Speaker.)
To: jazusamo
Pelosi and her ilk vs the CIA. I’ll take the CIA.
To: Enterprise
I think she is soon not going to be in line for the Presidency. Time will tell.No question, if all the shoes were on the other feet, that is, if this were a Republican speaker of the house, they would already have been forced to step down.
Anybody doubt it? Trent Lott, anyone?
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:30:03 PM PDT
by
Bullish
( Reality is the best cure for delusion.)
To: Enterprise
Two of my three talkshow hosts today think Obama may ask her to resign; we can only hope!?!
- Obama administration telling CIA officials they won't be prosecuted for past waterboarding
- Cheney Calls for Legal Memos to be Declassified
- Pelosi: I didn't know about waterboarding
- White House: No independent interrogations probe
- Defense Department to Release Prisoner Abuse Photos
- Commission on CIA Tactics Is Unlikely
- General who probed Abu Ghraib says Bush officials committed war crimes
- Obama's Chickens are Coming Home to Roost!
- U.S. plans to accept several Chinese Muslims from Guantanamo
- Obama's DNI reminds Obama that "enhanced interrogation" worked
(CIA Memo redactions were Partisan) - Obama wants to end 23-year-old Michigan vs Jackson
(defendants right to lawyer before questioning) - Dems don't fund Obama's bid to close Gitmo
- Democrats' Attack on CIA ... Now Total Retreat by Pelosi's Forces
- Pelosi Knew about Waterboarding from the Start
( Liar, liar... ) - Pelosi Knew about Waterboarding from the Start
(CIA memo leaked) - Several Guantanamo Bay detainees to be released in Washington, D.C., suburbs, say sources
- CBS announcer: Any U.S. soldier would shoot Pelosi, strangle Reid
- Pelosi: Torture protest improper in '03
- Pelosi: Torture protest improper in '03
- Democrats: CIA is out to get us
- Hoyer wants Pelosi facts out [brake out the popcorn....]
- Source: Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used
- House Democrats Block Republican Effort to Force Ethics Inquiries
- Did Pelosi Lie? Will Americans Die?
- Subcommittee Examines Lawyers Who Approved Harsh Methods
(Senate- LIVE THREAD- 10 AM) - Bad morning for Pelosi
- Rasmussen Report - Americans Do Not Trust Congress !!
- Pelosi About To Be Investigated Over The Interrogation Methods Used On Those Responsible For 9/11
- Obama reverses on releasing photos
- Obama Now Objects to Release of Detainee Abuse Photos
- Obama U-turn on abuse photos
- Graham threatens to pull Pelosi into Senate torture probe
- Pelosi: House Taking Up Health Care Before Recess (here comes socialized ObamaCare)
- Dems Lack Waterboarding Exit Strategy
- The hidden hand of Dick Cheney (He has them quaking in their Birckenstocks!)
- Indefinite Detention Weighed [plans to detain some terror suspects on U.S. soil -- indefinitely....]
- Liberals back Speaker in briefing controversy on interrogation tactics
- Text Of A Letter From The President To The Speaker Of The House Of Representatives
- Lie Exposed: Pelosi's Power, Oversight and Control of the CIA after being briefed on Waterboarding
- GOP targets Pelosi as witnesses tell of 'amateurish' torture methods
- Congress and Waterboarding (Nancy Pelosi was an accomplice to 'torture.')
- Obama Considers Detaining Terror Suspects Indefinitely
- Congress Comes In Dead Last In Voter Trust (Money and Power to People we don't trust?)
- Congress and Waterboarding
- Top Dem: "Don't Be A Flake"
- Republicans: Nancy Pelosi Could Have Objected
- Cheney in Manhattan: 'A giant conspiracy' on Iran
- Nancy Pelosi: Accomplice in Torture?
- Schumer on torture 2004: 'Do what you have to do'
- Pelosi Is Accusing the C.I.A. of Lying to Congress
("Waterboarding") - Pelosi calls CIA Liars
- Pelosi: Bush briefers lied to me
- Pelosi says Bush team misled her on waterboarding (Bush lied.. Pelosi cried)
- Holder Bars Hill Briefings on Gitmo Terrorists; House Vote on $94 Billion Today
- Pelosi Also Said
- Obama Administration to Cheney: Request Denied
- Hill, Pelosi Briefed on Waterboarding in 2002; Among the techniques described was waterboarding.
- Chris Matthews: "Torture" good, re-defining the meaning of "torture" bad
(VIDEO) - They Tortured For A Casus Belli?
- Video of Pelosi's Press Conference --Pathetic or WHAT?
- List Says Top Democrats Were Briefed on Interrogations; Appears Nancy Pelosi Lied
- Mary Matalin: Obama Brought on Cheney Criticism--The President Deserved It
- Another Obama reversal - He now OPPOSSES release of detainee photos
- Pelosi Accuses CIA of 'Misleading' Congress on Waterboarding
- Dems Try Desperately To Cut and Run From "Torture" Debate
- McCain Backs Obama on Blocking Abuse Photos
- Pelosi Video: In her own 2002 words, she exposes her waterboarding lie
- Rasmussen: Only 38% Agree With Cheney That Obama Has Hurt National Security
- Pelosi: I was duped by the most ignorant President in our nations history
(VIDEO) - Top Dem: 'Don't be a Flake'
- Pelosi says she learned of waterboarding in 2003
- Did uncounted overseas ballots give the lead to Franken in Minnesota?
- Pelosi: C.I.A. Misled Congress Over Waterboarding
(Pelosi: lie, version 7) - Pelosi denies being informed about waterboarding
- Minority Leader John Boehner: "Hard for Me to Imagine" CIA Would Mislead Congress
(Video) - CIA: Pelosi can review docs immediately
- ABC's Diane Sawyer Frets: Obama 'Caved In' to Cheney and 'Political Right'
- Lieberman 'totally disagrees' with Pelosi
(that the CIA regularly misleads Congress) - Rep. Hoekstra Responds to Pelosi's Lies: Pelosi Placed Politics Over National Security!
(Video) - Leftwing Blogosphere Erupts in Anger Over Obama Reversal on 'Torture' Photos Release
- Bill Clinton On Cheney:"I wish him well. It's over. But I hope he gets more target practice"
(Video) - Pelosi Remarks at Press Conference About Briefing on Enhanced Interrogation Techniques [transcript]
- A Lying Hypocrite?
- Pelosi in public dispute with CIA over interrogation
- Pelosi says she learned of waterboarding in 2003
- Pelosi Palaver
- Cheney says "giant conspiracy" on Iran - newspaper
- CIA denies Cheney request on interrogations
- Pelosi in the Crosshairs II
- Jesse Ventura Speaks: Wants Cheney on a Waterboard, Bush Worst President
- Opinion : The Speaker misspeaks
( Comments on the Press Briefing by Nancy ) - Congressman: Pelosi More Focused on Keeping Dems in Office Than National Security
(video report) - Dems: CIA briefers may have broken law
- Confirming Cheney by Refusing to Declassify Memos
- Pelosi: What Did She Know and When Did She Know it?...Speaker Accuses CIA of Lying!
- Lindsey Graham On Foxnews, Tears Into Pelosi "If It Was A Crime, She Was Part Of It"
(Video) - Hilarious Video: Pelosi Fumbles Through Her Tortured Re-Explanation Of What She Knew
- Hoyer Declines to Back Up Pelosi's Claim That CIA Misled Congress
- Dems: CIA briefers may have broken law
- Tonight's Poll Do you believe Speaker Pelosi is telling the truth...
- Isn't Pelosi Guilty Even on Her Own Account?
- Cheney Will Appeal CIA Decision on Memos
- CONFIRMED: Interrogation techniques DID aid in our fight against Al Qaeda
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posted on
05/14/2009 6:39:30 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
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