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Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth (first T. rex, then another T. rex, now this!)
ICR ^ | May 12, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 05/12/2009 7:26:20 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts

Hadrosaur Soft Tissues Another Blow to Long-Ages Myth

by Brian Thomas, M.S.*

Recently-discovered dinosaur soft tissues, and even blood cells, represent some of the biggest hurdles for long-age evolutionary belief. Soft tissue was found in the femur of a large Tyrannosaurus rex about a decade ago, and more was discovered in another T. rex a few years later. And recently, soft tissues with proteins were found in a hadrosaur from Montana...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: belongsinreligion; creation; dinosaur; dinosaurs; evolution; goodgodimnutz; intelligentdesign; maryschweitzer; notasciencetopic; propellerbeanie; science
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To: WondrousCreation
The astute student of science will note that practically all engineering and medical advances we enjoy today are built on the pre-1900 science of these giants, before Darwin sank his monstrous claws into the philosophy.

I would go so far as to say they all are. Science builds on past discoveries.

The astute student of science will also note that you can pick any arbitrary date and person/event in the last 500 years and argue that practically all advances we enjoy today are based on work done before that event or person came along.

521 posted on 05/17/2009 8:24:18 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: WondrousCreation

the communist manifesto was published a decade before the origin of the species.
pre-1900 engineering was steam-power, all of it big and clunky. and the rudiments of germ theory were only just beginning. penicillin wasn’t discovered until world war two.
i’m sorry pal, but i’m quite happy that medicine and engineering have advanced past the early twentieth century.
you’re doing a disservice to your arguments against ‘darwinism’ by railing against everything that’s been accomplished in science since his time.


522 posted on 05/17/2009 10:48:27 AM PDT by Nipplemancer (M.S.*)
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To: tacticalogic

Will you forever remain this helpless?


523 posted on 05/17/2009 10:56:24 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Will you forever remain this helpless?

1. Radiometrics is liberalism.
2. Debate will be expressed in the form of loaded questions.

What else do we have?

524 posted on 05/17/2009 11:10:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Will you forever remain this helpless?


525 posted on 05/17/2009 11:13:00 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Okay.

1. Radiometrics is liberalism.
2. Debate will be expressed in the form of repetitive loaded questions.

Next?

526 posted on 05/17/2009 11:17:35 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You’ve already been corrected once, the question isn’t radiometrics, rather “settled science”, “the debate is over”...blah blah blah.


527 posted on 05/17/2009 11:20:39 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
You’ve already been corrected once, the question isn’t radiometrics, rather “settled science”, “the debate is over”...blah blah blah.

The question at hand is the validity of making assumptions about the age of the Earth, based on assumptions about the age of this piece of tissue, from only field observations.

528 posted on 05/17/2009 11:23:23 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Nipplemancer; WondrousCreation

i’m sorry pal, but i’m quite happy that medicine and engineering have advanced past the early twentieth century.


Yes science advanced despite the cult of Darwinism, which wasn’t the point.

It could be something that hasn’t run off the rails with everything from global warming to abortion on demand to everything else liberals have destroyed in science.

Science flourishes when pursued by Godly people, when they’re not so Godly, decide to reject Him, well, we get Dr. Mengele.

Sorry pal but Darwin and his...errrrr...”results” aren’t exactly a shining example of virtue here.


529 posted on 05/17/2009 1:32:57 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: GodGunsGuts; allmendream
All you are saying is that even what appears to be random to our finite minds is not random to God. And it is you who pretend treat God’s Word like it is a lie, and try to convince your “fellow” Christians that God’s creation is really just the product of long ages, random processes, a life-giving materialist miracle, more random processes, and dumb survival.

And that somehow the Pope doesn't think God is responsible for all that we know or ever will know, or telling little girl's when they ask someone about why God made her with two sets of teeth that "He (God)has no place in His own creation", or that evolution IS His intelligent design, or...in effect allmendream fools no one but himself.

530 posted on 05/17/2009 1:46:22 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tacticalogic

The question at hand is the validity of making assumptions about the age of the Earth, based on assumptions about the age of this piece of tissue, from only field observations.


Perhaps in a world of no liberals that shut down all debate with their endless projections and silly sabotage it would be, but clearly this is not the case, for that matter on pretty much ANY of these threads.

But this is a good place to start:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2251309/posts?q=1&;page=218


531 posted on 05/17/2009 2:07:17 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther

Are you bringing a disgreement from another thread, on another subject in to this one?


532 posted on 05/17/2009 2:09:14 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
Are you bringing a disgreement from another thread, on another subject in to this one?

You can determine that for yourself as every thread on FR IS a disagreement, including this one.

You were saying something about radiometric dating, #218 provides some insight.

533 posted on 05/17/2009 4:13:33 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
You can determine that for yourself as every thread on FR IS a disagreement, including this one.

Don't jump threads - If you get involved in an argument in one thread, it's considered poor manners to restart the previous argument in the middle of an unrelated thread.

You were saying something about radiometric dating, #218 provides some insight.

I was saying something about radiometric dating because I was referred to an article about it in the thread, and because it's relevant to the content of the article, since that is the methology that's being challenged.

534 posted on 05/17/2009 4:41:32 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

You spew liberal nonsense on a conservative website and then have the gall to pretend to have authority over a single soul to tell them what is or isn’t acceptable and what they should or shouldn’t do?

That’s a tad on the surreal side there fella! :)

I wasn’t arguing about radiometric dating on the other thread, I merely pointed out it’s not settled science. You blew that off, so in an attempt to get you to pay closer attention, I showed you post #218 on the other thread, that others understand it’s not settled science besides me.

Reading is still fundamental. But I can’t make you read.

“I was saying something about radiometric dating because I was referred to an article about it in the thread, and because it’s relevant to the content of the article, since that is the methology that’s being challenged.”

And ...

AGAIN...

I showed you it’s not settled science. It’s not settled science on this thread, not on another thread, not on FR period, and most certainly not scientifically in general.

Typically though, you want to run off the rails over decorum.

Again.

In short, you’re a train wreck.

Anything but the argument at hand because you know you don’t have one.

Radiometric dating is not “settled science”, and scientists themselves are still debating about it’s validity, so unlike algore science, “the debate isn’t over”.

So don’t keep asking the same failed questions, thread after thread after thread that have been adequately answered and knowingly ask THE SAME FAILED question AGAIN, that everyone knows you already know the answer to and expect a free pass.


535 posted on 05/17/2009 7:45:04 PM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Radiometric dating is not “settled science”, and scientists themselves are still debating about it’s validity, so unlike algore science, “the debate isn’t over”.

Of course the debate isn't over. Some of it was in progress when you showed up to inject yourself into the middle of it and shut it down.

536 posted on 05/18/2009 3:45:19 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; editor-surveyor
Of course the debate isn't over. Some of it was in progress when you showed up to inject yourself into the middle of it and shut it down.

Noooo-sir-project-alot. That happened along 156-159.

537 posted on 05/18/2009 7:41:11 AM PDT by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for g!ood men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
Noooo-sir-project-alot. That happened along 156-159.

Ah. So disagreeing with anything in the article is "shutting down the debate". Apparently the "debate" is supposed to consist of everyone agreeing with it.

538 posted on 05/18/2009 8:03:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic; tpanther; GodGunsGuts
"Apparently the "debate" is supposed to consist of everyone agreeing with it."

Well, that is the way it seems to be with evolutionism, global warming, and HIV. - When a solid body of scientific evidence has refuted them, those that worship them scream "anti-science," even though no legitimate science has ever supported any of them.

Sauce for goose, sauce for gander?

539 posted on 05/18/2009 8:42:16 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
Well, that is the way it seems to be with evolutionism, global warming, and HIV. - When a solid body of scientific evidence has refuted them, those that worship them scream "anti-science," even though no legitimate science has ever supported any of them.

Sauce for goose, sauce for gander?

If that's the choice, what do you have to offer they don't other than a different flavor of poison?

540 posted on 05/18/2009 8:48:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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