Posted on 05/06/2009 7:24:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf
The state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.
The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana . The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.
Montana has gone beyond drawing a line in the sand. They have challenged the Federal Government. The fed now either takes them on and risks them saying the federal agents have no right to violate their state gun laws and arrest the federal agents that try to enforce the federal firearms acts. This will be a world-class event to watch.
Montana could go to voting for secession from the union, which is really throwing the gauntlet in Obama's face. If the federal government does nothing they lose face. Gotta love it.
Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines. Montana has the law on their side. Since when did the USA start following their own laws especially the constitution of the USA , the very document that empowers the USA .
Silencers made in Montana and sol in Montana would be fully legal and not registered. As a note silencers were first used before the 007 movies as a device to enable one to hunt without disturbing neighbors and scaring game. They were also useful as devices to control noise when practicing so as to not disturb the neighbors.
Silencers work best with a bolt-action rifle. There is a long barrel and the chamber is closed tight so as to direct all the gases though the silencer at the tip of the barrel. Semi-auto pistols and revolvers do not really muffle the sound very well except on the silver screen. The revolvers bleed gas out with the sound all over the place. The semi-auto pistols bleed the gases out when the slide recoils back.
Silencers are maybe nice for snipers picking off enemy soldiers even though they reduce velocity but not very practical for hit men shooting pistols in crowded places. Silencers were useful tools for gun enthusiasts and hunters.
There would be no firearm registration, serial numbers, criminal records check, waiting periods or paperwork required. So in a short period of time there would be millions and millions of unregistered untraceable guns in Montana . Way to go Montana !
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Every other wrangler would say
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WE don’ need no stinkin’ sarcasm tags.
God bless Oklahoma!
Pity there isn't something in the Constitution that's really clear about the subject, ya know something like "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That would clear it all up immediatly, wouldn't it?
Depends on the can and the round. I drop a .22 converter into my suppressed AR15 and run subsonic rounds, and all you hear is the action cycle (a pretty quiet sound at that). "Hollywood quiet" is a reality, if a rarity.
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Yeppers, that’s why I pinged you!
Unless of course you wish to follow strict osha guidelines concerning hearing damage and all.
I wonder if one can sue the feds based on osha guidelines regards the use of silencers and suppersors, kinda like workplace safety and all.
“God bless your willingness. It is your greatest strength on this topic. “
Bet you’d never think you’d see this kinda reply, I’ll stand corrected. I rather be an honest gentleman that screwed up and admit it than save face and run away.
I did a little more non-fictional reading. Seems, even that, can be a little conflicting at times.
Moose Drool is the best. I use it as a handle online often.
Bet you’d never think you’d see this kinda reply, I’ll stand corrected.
“Ask the sponsoring legislators to address the cases I cited here, and find out how un-serious the state yokels are. If they don’t know these cases and have a specific plan to surmount them, they aren’t serious.”
Is that you Obama?
Never see a liberal admit when they are wrong. LOL.
Gotcha. The only Zappa album I’m familiar with is Sheik Yerbouti. And it’s a good one.
Also, there was a grand tradition in the old west that applies here. Montana can forbid state officers from assisting federals as the try to enforce their gun laws in Montana. This can include Montana jails and lockups. None of this need be available for federal use. This was a Big reason that marshals used to need good relations with the sheriff back in the frontier days.
The libs have even reinforced the validity of this, all over the country, by forbidding local law enforcement from assisting the Feds on illegal immigration issues.
I listened to "Freak Out" (Suzy? Suzy Creamcheese? Is that You?) when it came out. If you like Sheik Yerbouti, you'll like Overnight Sensation and Apostrophe (very "pop" musical, fun listening). He was a liberal puke, but damn, he was a fantastic musical artist.
Montana Police arresting ATF agents sounds at least about as likely your US Govt invasion of Montana. And how exactly does the “Feds overrun Montana pretty easy” part work? You know you can’t even begin to predict how this would play in the other states.
It’s a fair bet some other states would be outraged into supporting behaviors. Including the demands their own senators and congressmen would face from their outraged constituents. Think the tea party was a turn out? Wait and see what Tanks rolling through Montana would do. Talk about mass anger! Feds wont dare make a “Concord” move.
Its definately not as easy as “line up the panzers and roll across montana”.
“None of these laws are likely to be definitive, but the sure do point to a trend”
Well put. THAT is the point, can anyone honestly imagine these legislative moves happening even 10 years ago?
Which is why this is going take many states making the push simultaneously - as they seem to be.
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