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MONTANA DEFIES FEDS - THREATENS SECESSION!
Post Scripts ^ | 5/4/09 | Jack Lee

Posted on 05/05/2009 11:31:04 AM PDT by OneVike

Montana Governor Signs New Gun Law

Executive Summary - The USA state of Montana has signed into power a revolutionary gun law. I mean REVOLUTIONARY.

The State of Montana has defied the federal government and their gun laws. This will prompt a showdown between the federal government and the State of Montana. The federal government fears citizens owning guns. They try to curtail what types of guns they can own. The gun control laws all have one common goal - confiscation of privately owned firearms.

(Excerpt) Read more at norcalblogs.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: 10a; 10thamendment; 2ndamendmant; banglist; donttreadonliberty; donttreadonme; fubo; gunownershiprights; liberty; lping; montana; obama; secession; sovereignty; statesrights
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham; OneVike
["Important Points - If guns and ammunition are manufactured inside the State of Montana for sale and use inside that state then the federal firearms laws have no applicability since the federal government only has the power to control commerce across state lines."]

The courts have ruled that purely intrastate events may affect interstate commerce and are, therefore, subject to federal law. The question is whether or not the Supremes would be willing to overturn United States v. Lopez.

The answer isn't with some state standing up to this nonsense, it's with the rest of the public getting behind a new constitutional amendment correcting judicial abuses concerning the Commerce Clause.

If we don't we will be eternally at the mercy of how the Supremes are stacked.

41 posted on 05/05/2009 12:03:23 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Considering that it’s presently impossible for someone to purchase newly-manufactured silencers under Federal law, the Wickard argument won’t fly for them.


42 posted on 05/05/2009 12:04:13 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: humblegunner

43 posted on 05/05/2009 12:04:27 PM PDT by Gabrial (Obama Lied - The Republic Died)
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To: skeeter
Good for Montana, but I’m waiting for a state with beaches and a boat harbor to succeed before making my move.

To succeed at seceding? You know what they say, "If at first you don't secede..."

44 posted on 05/05/2009 12:09:39 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: DTogo

But by then you’ll be a foreign national.


45 posted on 05/05/2009 12:10:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: OneVike
Way to go, Montana!

I particularly like Section 4. Prohibitions. (things the federal government is prohibited from doing.)
46 posted on 05/05/2009 12:11:18 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Geoffrey

I reply it back to you and everyone else citing Wickard v. Filburn. United States v. Lopez will have to be overturned. Wickard v. Filburn was already discussed in relation to a Federal firearms law. I grant you that Lopez was under the Rhenquist Court, but the current Supremes would have to overturn existing precedence.


47 posted on 05/05/2009 12:11:37 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: skeeter
Hawaii might succeed but I’m afraid if I go there I’ll be whats for dinner.

Skeeter, the other other white meat.

48 posted on 05/05/2009 12:12:05 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Straight Vermonter

W v F was one of the worst instances of judicial activism ever. Ranks right up there with Marshall’s dementia inspired “incorporation” farce.


49 posted on 05/05/2009 12:12:13 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (III)
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To: Geoffrey
Unfortunately, this technique was tried in agriculture back during FDR’s reign. The supreme court decided that a local farmer was still engaged in interstate commerce even if the wheat never even left the farm! This is in Mark Levin’s new book Liberty & Tyranny. But it still sends a message.

Well, since it was tried once and failed, let's never do it again.

50 posted on 05/05/2009 12:13:27 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: skeeter
Hawaii might succeed ...

Succeed at what??

51 posted on 05/05/2009 12:13:50 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Once upon a time, there was a great nation called the United States of America.....)
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To: cizinec

precedent. i type b4 i think.


52 posted on 05/05/2009 12:14:10 PM PDT by cizinec (The truth is . . . . . 127!)
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To: LearsFool
things the federal government is prohibited from doing.

...Or I should say, things the state of Montana prohibits the federal government from doing! (Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it?)
53 posted on 05/05/2009 12:15:34 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: ZULU; Straight Vermonter

Pretty cool you both came up with same case within seconds, shows FRs haven’t (entirely) lost their touch!:)


54 posted on 05/05/2009 12:16:07 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Once upon a time, there was a great nation called the United States of America.....)
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To: Still Thinking

55 posted on 05/05/2009 12:16:15 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: La Enchiladita
At seceding.
56 posted on 05/05/2009 12:17:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: FourPeas
Succession is only mentioned as speculation by the author.

Really? Or, does the author mention secession?

57 posted on 05/05/2009 12:17:47 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Once upon a time, there was a great nation called the United States of America.....)
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To: skeeter

Very good, skeeter, you may go to the head of the class!
:-)


58 posted on 05/05/2009 12:20:33 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Once upon a time, there was a great nation called the United States of America.....)
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To: OneVike

We will probably move to and live in whichever state goes ahead with this.

Enough already! The former Soviet states now have more freedom than the US.


59 posted on 05/05/2009 12:22:35 PM PDT by eleni121 (The New Byzantium - resurrect it!)
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To: OneVike
The federal government fears citizens owning guns.

They will fear even more a state standing up and telling them to shove it. Excellent news!

60 posted on 05/05/2009 12:23:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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