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Why are so many 'conservatives' following Michael Savage?
Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 10 April, 2009 | David Codrea

Posted on 04/11/2009 11:02:34 AM PDT by marktwain

I have never understood the Michael Savage phenomenon. He's loud, he's abrasive, and he's hardly the "conservative" so many apparently think he is. I guess tapping into the border issue has convinced some that he is a kindred spirit. For anyone who place the Constitution first, he is not.

Case in point, today's amazingly ignorant screed, "Why are the police outgunned?":

So I put the question to the Savage Nation. Is it time to ban assault rifles? What are they really needed for? We know, of course, that Savage has no business defining what we "need," although I can think of many tactical situations where an outnumbered peaceable armed citizen with a semiautomatic rifle could be instrumental in deterring violence.

But forget that--we don't need to justify our property to Savage or anyone else. Where do they presume to get the authority to tell us which firearms they'll allow us to own--and how badly do they want to take them from us?

Then there's this bit of injecting doubt and fear into weaker minds:

Of course, I can already hear callers telling me, “Well, Mike, if we’re armed with these weapons, the government can’t possibly take our rights away.” That is nonsense. If the government wants to take your rights away or imprison you for whatever reason, your owning an assault rifle is not going to stop it. Gee, I don't know, Mike. If the scenario you're postulating--a government wanting to take your rights away existed--what kind of subversive cheerleader or just plain coward wouldn't resist? And remember--this is the guy telling his listeners we're being run by a dictatorship--a gang--evil rulers intent on starting another Reichstag fire.

Assuming he believes it, he wants us to disarm for that?

Have you checked the number of gun owners lately, Michael? And have you looked into the honorable patriots in the military and peace officer professions who would not participate in carrying out tyrannical orders?

They call themselves "Oath Keepers". You might want to look into that. They impress me a lot more than you do.

What Savage is proposing is nothing less than taking away from Americans their last resort means of protecting themselves from unmasked tyranny--gutting the very core of the right to keep and bear arms--something envisioned as a necessity by the Founders and codified in the Bill of Rights. He is telling his listeners the Second Amendment is useless, so we might as well give it up.

Savage sets himself up as wiser than the Framers? I don't think so.

And it doesn't surprise me to see him resort to fabrication in this next display of either profound ignorance or deliberate misdirection:

So we have to ask: If the police are not allowed to have these types of weapons, then why is the public allowed have them. What planet have you been living on, Michael? Do you even make an attempt to know what the hell you're talking about? Have you fallen for the "patrol rifle" vs. "assault weapon" deception? Or the "Only Ones" deception?

This doesn't surprise me, either. I warned gun owners about Savage back when he threw his support behind gun-grabber Jerry Brown for California attorney general--you know--the same guy who failed miserably at making a dent in Oakland's violent crime rate, but who was--surprise--endorsed by all those non-Oath Keeper police groups.

Good grief, Michael, the entire concept of "the security of a free state" escapes you, doesn't it? Is it that you're not bright enough to understand that the more good citizens are armed, the safer society will be--including the "outgunned" police?

The judgment I initially formed about you has only been cemented with this latest subversive defeatism you've injected into the "conservative" dialog, Michael:

Anyone wasting time or money following this obnoxious carnival barker is chasing a sterile queen bee. If you've ever bought one of his books, congratulations. You just helped finance the further enslavement of ourselves and our posterity. Get this, Michael: We will not disarm. If you truly think that resistance is futile and disarmament will come easy, you've deluded yourself and anyone stupid enough to believe you or craven enough to want to.

And now that I'm through, Mr. Adams would like to have a word with you:

If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen! ------------

A good Savage

That left a bad feeling in my stomach. I had an honorable, now-departed friend with that surname who served on Iwo Jima, and another who is one of the foremost champions of the right to keep and bear arms that I have the honor to know. Of course, they hadn't assumed the name, because they weren't pretenders. Anyway, now seems a pretty good time to remind you that it's not the name, it's the man.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ban; banglist; gun; michaelsavage; michaelweiner; savage; savagenation; talkradio; weinernation
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Savage may have been right when he labled liberalism as a mental disease, but he totally went over to the dark side on this issue!
1 posted on 04/11/2009 11:02:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
cause we're angry and he's angry

sort of a Thomas Paine pamphleteer with a microphone

a firebrand but not a serious ideologue

2 posted on 04/11/2009 11:04:07 AM PDT by wardaddy (America, Ship of Fools)
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Why did so many conservatives vote for Boama??
3 posted on 04/11/2009 11:04:52 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: 09Patriot; Baron OBeef Dip; BellStar; b4its2late; Blue Turtle; BootsOfEscaping; Brad's Gramma; ...

PINGING THE INFIDELS.................


4 posted on 04/11/2009 11:05:00 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are soooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: marktwain

In the words of the immortal Barney Fife:
“He’s a nut”


5 posted on 04/11/2009 11:06:35 AM PDT by Carl LaFong (Experts say experts should be ignored.)
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I think the confusion is in the term ‘conservative’.

It was been adopted and altered by so many people, there is no set definition anymore.

6 posted on 04/11/2009 11:07:18 AM PDT by BGHater (Tyranny is always better organised than freedom)
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To: marktwain

To the headline: good question.


7 posted on 04/11/2009 11:07:54 AM PDT by svcw
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That is nonsense. If the government wants to take your rights away or imprison you for whatever reason, your owning an assault rifle is not going to stop it...
If the scenario you're postulating--a government wanting to take your rights away existed--what kind of subversive cheerleader or just plain coward wouldn't resist?


8 posted on 04/11/2009 11:09:03 AM PDT by bill1952 (Power is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: marktwain

Emotions, Savage is a male version of the angry feminist type, he vents and his followers get an emotional release.

Feelings matter (more to some than others), Michael Savage emotes and the audience finds release.


9 posted on 04/11/2009 11:09:13 AM PDT by ansel12 (Romney (guns)"instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people")
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Because he isn’t a lap-dog; doesn’t tow the line for the republican party. An independent conservative who’ll speak his mind.


10 posted on 04/11/2009 11:10:16 AM PDT by GoldStandard
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Why are so many 'conservatives' following Michael Savage?

You won't find me following him.

11 posted on 04/11/2009 11:10:48 AM PDT by lonestar (Obama is turning Bush's "mess" into a catastrophe.)
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To: ansel12

I find comfort in knowing I’m not the only one who’s spitting mad about it all.


12 posted on 04/11/2009 11:11:14 AM PDT by Califreak (Obama is Swahili for "Death to America")
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He's loud, he's abrasive, ...

The writer of this article views this as a negative. Savage's fans view it as a positive.

13 posted on 04/11/2009 11:11:50 AM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
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To: marktwain

I find myself nodding my head when I listen to Savage, then he stops my nodding with some boneheaded statement or another.

Hi attacks on the other conservative hosts is unwarranted, and openly self-serving, and seemingly based on jealousy. I’d rather our local station carried Mark Levin in that time slot.


14 posted on 04/11/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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I guess I don’t know any conservatives who listen to Savage. I did once and lasted for about two weeks. I’m not very bright so it took that long to realize that Savage is neither liberal nor conservative. He just sounds like a nut.


15 posted on 04/11/2009 11:17:40 AM PDT by stevem
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To: marktwain

Michael Weiner (a.k.a. Michael Savage) is a radical leftist on many issues — and has nanny-state expectations one would expect to find from someone who has lived in big cities all his life.


16 posted on 04/11/2009 11:19:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: marktwain

Savage often lets his emotions get in the way of his thinking.

He lets his thoughts out.

He’s angry about where our nation is headed, and he sometimes makes mistakes in what he says.

He is not a carefully nuanced perfumed handkerchief, and I expect that he’ll come back on this issue and say the right thing in the end.


17 posted on 04/11/2009 11:21:23 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: marktwain
They aren't out gunned they're not too bright to rush headlong into the jaws of a deadly trap. They need to rethink their approach. Wait the perp out, fall back and out think a thug shouldn't bee too difficult. Instead they barge into a deadly trap trying to be Hollywood style “heroes”
18 posted on 04/11/2009 11:24:06 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: marktwain
I used to listen to Michael Savage on a local radio station
and found him abrasive and obnoxious.

His vocal talents trended toward the Berserkers
As likely to harm friend and foe

His “show” was deleted from the station ~2 years ago
I've not missed it

19 posted on 04/11/2009 11:31:58 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: marktwain

I have listened to him on the drive home for the last 5-6 years.

Micheal Savage is not your typical talk show wussie pussie. He actually believes what he rants about.

He has gotten to the core of more issues than any of his competitors. He calls a spade a spade and a queer a queer!— which is offensive to wussified phony “conservatives”


20 posted on 04/11/2009 11:34:43 AM PDT by texican01
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