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Are You Hoarding Ammo?
humanevents.com ^ | 03/31/2009 | Ross Kaminsky

Posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:17 AM PDT by kellynla

As I was walking through the ammunition aisle at my local Bass Pro Shops, I muttered to the man standing next to me how disappointingly empty the shelves were. “Not as bad as last week”, he said. I shouldn’t have been surprised. Back in February, Cabelas, a publicly-traded outdoor outfitter saw its stock go up 35% in one day when earnings blew away estimates because of very strong “sales of firearms and related accessories.”

If President Obama has stimulated anything in America, it is demand for guns and ammunition. According to Rich Wyatt, the voluble and intense owner of Gunsmoke -- a firearms training facility just outside Denver -- “If I had known it would be this good in the gun business, I might have voted for Obama.”

It’s not just a couple of stores seeing a run on guns and even more so on ammunition. From local gun shops to WalMart to sporting goods stores, the story is the same: When the store gets a shipment of ammo, particularly .45, 9mm, and .38 handgun ammunition, “people come in and they buy it all.”

The manager of a local gun shop where I’ve been a customer told me that business has doubled since the election. Whereas the typical first time buyer pre-election had generally been a 30- or 40-something male, first time gun buyers now include more younger people, older people, and women than in the past. “They’re buying semi-automatic pistols and shotguns for home defense, as well as ‘concealed weapons’. There’s also a strong interest in ‘black guns’”, military-style assault rifles, both from people who want to buy them “because they can” as well as others who believe they’ll be able to sell them at higher prices someday soon.

Where politics was rarely mentioned during a gun purchase a year ago, the store manager says at least 60% of his customers mention the Obama administration now.

At Rich Wyatt’s Gunsmoke, “We are getting ‘Prius-driving Obama people’ buying guns because they realize they picked the wrong pony…even though they never admit it.” Just like my local gun shop, Wyatt has “old ladies and young people and liberals” buying guns. He says that while there were spikes in gun buying during the Clinton administration, during the Rodney King riots, and even just before Y2K, he’s never seen anything remotely on this scale.

A customer I spoke with at Bass Pro Shops (the employees wouldn’t speak with me for an article) actually owns a gun shop, but he was buying ammunition there because his wholesaler had run out. His customers are hoarding ammunition and, to a lesser extent, guns. He described a recent spectacle at a gun show where one vendor had a relatively large supply of ammunition and customers were swarming around him buying 50 boxes at a time…and not at a bargain price.

At Dick’s Sporting Goods, they were almost out of .45 ammunition after having received a shipment just that morning. Not only are people buying as much ammunition as they can find and afford, they’re doing it during the work day rather than taking the chance that it will be gone by the weekend.

As if the message weren’t clear enough, a sign at a local WalMart said “Due to the increased demand from customers for ammunition, our suppliers are increasing production…” A salesman said that their ammunition supply is now infrequent and unpredictable: “We used to get shipments almost every day. Now we only know we’ll have it when we see it. I get at least a half-dozen calls a day asking for ammunition, especially for handguns, and when it arrives, the customers buy everything.”

Over at Gunsmoke, Rich Wyatt says “Now, it’s not what the ammo costs; it’s ‘do you have it?’”

Much of the demand for ammunition is due to an NRA advertising campaign during election season which described Barack Obama’s historical positions on gun issues, including having said that he would support a 500% federal tax on guns and ammunition. And while it is true that Obama has not made many anti-gun statements recently, gun rights expert David Kopel explains clearly that Barack Obama is easily the most anti-gun President in US history.

In his 2004 Senate campaign, Barack Obama said he would like to ban concealed carry permits. Now that Obama is President, Gunsmoke’s concealed carry courses are selling out class after class (50 people in each) in addition to their 3-day pistol classes, which are already sold out through June.

“People are petrified…afraid for their rights that Obama is going to attack. And while Obama says he doesn’t support banning guns, a 500% tax would effectively be a financial ban on both guns and ammunition. I think the left’s goal is that in 50 or 100 years, there are people who don’t even know that they could have bought guns or ammunition.”

Colorado is several months behind in processing concealed carry permits because of demand. Last month, it was reported that Florida “is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork.” In Georgia, firearm permits were up 79% in 2008 over 2007. In Oklahoma, the number is around 90%. In Ohio, the number of concealed carry licenses issued in the 4th quarter of 2008 was 111% higher than the 4th quarter of 2007.

Wyatt’s concealed carry classes emphasize the basics of gun use, safety, and the law, but “It’s Politics 101 as well, trying to make sure people understand not only their rights regarding guns but also the Constitution and their rights and responsibilities as American citizens.” He tries to make sure people are conscious of the “boiling the frog” approach by government to infringing on our rights, and gun rights in particular, just slowly enough that the average person might not notice. Just be prepared, he warns, for the return of government saying “We’re not banning all guns…just these guns.” And that’s part of the reason that there’s so much demand for ‘these’ guns, which is to say just about every type of gun you can imagine.

Since the election, the shares of gunmaker Smith & Wesson have more than doubled, with competitor Ruger’s shares up nearly as much. Two weeks ago a large gun and ammunition manufacturer, Olin Corp. raised its earnings guidance, anticipating a record quarterly profit for its Winchester ammunition division. The American public is speaking, and they’re saying in no uncertain terms that they don’t believe President Obama’s claims to support gun rights since his history says something very different.

Rich Wyatt’s position is typically none too subtle: “Barack Obama is right about one thing. We are clinging to God and our guns, and I defy him to try to take either one from us.”

As for me, after a day of thinking about the Obama administration and guns, I bought my local WalMart’s last box of .38 caliber ammunition.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; ammo; banglist; bho2009; bho44; bhobanglist; cwii; democrats; guns; obama; shallnotbeinfringed
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1 posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:17 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

NO, I always keep plenty on hand .... ^_^


2 posted on 03/31/2009 5:18:41 AM PDT by Tarpon (You abolish your responsibilities, your surrender your rights.)
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To: kellynla

Dont answer that


3 posted on 03/31/2009 5:19:00 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's even tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Tarpon

No.

If I did have any, it would be an investment.


4 posted on 03/31/2009 5:19:35 AM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: kellynla

I got 9 mm ammo for my son for Christmas. Tried to buy more this weekend, couldn’t find any in my small city.


5 posted on 03/31/2009 5:19:54 AM PDT by Wage Slave (Good fences make good neighbors. -- Robert Frost)
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To: kellynla

My stimulus plan: Going to Black Wing Shooting Center (Delaware, OH) to buy a Springfield XD40 and a Mossberg 500. Gonna make it a family event.


6 posted on 03/31/2009 5:20:32 AM PDT by goarmy (IT'S THE SEVENTIES AGAIN!)
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To: kellynla
It is my opinion that the average "Joe" head of household type does not need an huge arsenal and deep supply of ammo. It is highly unlikely any doomsday scenario will pan out as feared. A "Joe" might get five rounds off before he is tagged in return. Fear is a strong motivator. Guns are tangible security.

My suggestion is to stock up on cases of Spam.

7 posted on 03/31/2009 5:23:06 AM PDT by Broker ( Pakikisama)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
8 posted on 03/31/2009 5:23:08 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: kellynla
Are You Hoarding Ammo?

No, I am stockpiling.

There is a difference.

9 posted on 03/31/2009 5:25:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When you're spinning round, things come undone. Welcome to Earth 3rd rock from the Sun!)
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To: kellynla

I practice also.


10 posted on 03/31/2009 5:25:54 AM PDT by bmwcyle (American voters can fix this world if they would just wake up.)
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To: kellynla

Go the the NRA web site - they’re offering a FREE one year membership. We need to show power in numbers!


11 posted on 03/31/2009 5:25:56 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: kellynla

Here's my tip of the month: there is still a great pistol and ammo deal out there waiting for you. If you have waited too long to arm up, or are on a tight budget, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.

You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a round in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.

The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.

However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.

So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.

It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.

Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52

12 posted on 03/31/2009 5:26:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Broker

Or 22 ammo to shoot food with...


13 posted on 03/31/2009 5:26:53 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Paladin2

Think of it as

“Post-Free America currency”.


14 posted on 03/31/2009 5:27:49 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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To: Broker
A "Joe" might get five rounds off before he is tagged in return.

...which is why my daughters and wife will take station with their weopons, knowing it's to the death.

15 posted on 03/31/2009 5:29:25 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: Wage Slave

Someone estimated that for any protracted El Cruncho lasting a year or three, someone trying to hunt to support his family (assuming the small and medium-sized game didn’t disappear all at once) would need to lay in about 3000 rounds of each type of ammo he used, in the pre-crisis season of plenty.


16 posted on 03/31/2009 5:29:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: kellynla

No, but I wish all you guys would quit hoarding it so I can lay in some more — for responsible use of course. /sarc

The same thing is going on with reloading supplies. Primers are out or are being rationed (100 primers per person). Bullets are in limited supply and higher prices. Powder is out or in very limited supply.

I saw a guy at asking at the counter about a powder he used. None in stock. How about a different powder. Nope. Then he named several more powders. The seller had one pound of one of them. He started putting it in the buyers bag. The buyer said, “How much is it? — uh, forget that — just put it in the bag and ring it up.”


17 posted on 03/31/2009 5:31:57 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Travis McGee

I have a CZ 52 myself, it’s a great little weapon, though I would think it more for home defense than concealed, as it is a little on the bulkier side. The recoil is negligible and the report and muzzle flash will make someone think twice if you don’t hit them.


18 posted on 03/31/2009 5:32:20 AM PDT by PVT4evr (No Quarter for enemies, Foreign and Domestic (Operation Iraqi Freedom 2007-2008 3rd Infantry))
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To: carolinacrazy

gun ping


19 posted on 03/31/2009 5:33:12 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Broker
I hope no one is planning on making a "lone wolf" stand against the feds, or the scenario will play out as you stated- 5 rounds and dead.

You're no good dead.

Might just as well let them take your stuff (but not your kids for "Americorps"), and go tell it on the mountain that the raids have begun.

Then, you go to your pre-arranged SHTF rally point, someone lets you borrow an "extra" that they have, and you organize resistance.


20 posted on 03/31/2009 5:33:16 AM PDT by MrB (irreconcilable: One of two or more conflicting ideas or beliefs that cannot be brought into harmony.)
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