Posted on 03/31/2009 5:17:17 AM PDT by kellynla
As I was walking through the ammunition aisle at my local Bass Pro Shops, I muttered to the man standing next to me how disappointingly empty the shelves were. Not as bad as last week, he said. I shouldnt have been surprised. Back in February, Cabelas, a publicly-traded outdoor outfitter saw its stock go up 35% in one day when earnings blew away estimates because of very strong sales of firearms and related accessories.
If President Obama has stimulated anything in America, it is demand for guns and ammunition. According to Rich Wyatt, the voluble and intense owner of Gunsmoke -- a firearms training facility just outside Denver -- If I had known it would be this good in the gun business, I might have voted for Obama.
Its not just a couple of stores seeing a run on guns and even more so on ammunition. From local gun shops to WalMart to sporting goods stores, the story is the same: When the store gets a shipment of ammo, particularly .45, 9mm, and .38 handgun ammunition, people come in and they buy it all.
The manager of a local gun shop where Ive been a customer told me that business has doubled since the election. Whereas the typical first time buyer pre-election had generally been a 30- or 40-something male, first time gun buyers now include more younger people, older people, and women than in the past. Theyre buying semi-automatic pistols and shotguns for home defense, as well as concealed weapons. Theres also a strong interest in black guns, military-style assault rifles, both from people who want to buy them because they can as well as others who believe theyll be able to sell them at higher prices someday soon.
Where politics was rarely mentioned during a gun purchase a year ago, the store manager says at least 60% of his customers mention the Obama administration now.
At Rich Wyatts Gunsmoke, We are getting Prius-driving Obama people buying guns because they realize they picked the wrong pony even though they never admit it. Just like my local gun shop, Wyatt has old ladies and young people and liberals buying guns. He says that while there were spikes in gun buying during the Clinton administration, during the Rodney King riots, and even just before Y2K, hes never seen anything remotely on this scale.
A customer I spoke with at Bass Pro Shops (the employees wouldnt speak with me for an article) actually owns a gun shop, but he was buying ammunition there because his wholesaler had run out. His customers are hoarding ammunition and, to a lesser extent, guns. He described a recent spectacle at a gun show where one vendor had a relatively large supply of ammunition and customers were swarming around him buying 50 boxes at a time and not at a bargain price.
At Dicks Sporting Goods, they were almost out of .45 ammunition after having received a shipment just that morning. Not only are people buying as much ammunition as they can find and afford, theyre doing it during the work day rather than taking the chance that it will be gone by the weekend.
As if the message werent clear enough, a sign at a local WalMart said Due to the increased demand from customers for ammunition, our suppliers are increasing production A salesman said that their ammunition supply is now infrequent and unpredictable: We used to get shipments almost every day. Now we only know well have it when we see it. I get at least a half-dozen calls a day asking for ammunition, especially for handguns, and when it arrives, the customers buy everything.
Over at Gunsmoke, Rich Wyatt says Now, its not what the ammo costs; its do you have it?
Much of the demand for ammunition is due to an NRA advertising campaign during election season which described Barack Obamas historical positions on gun issues, including having said that he would support a 500% federal tax on guns and ammunition. And while it is true that Obama has not made many anti-gun statements recently, gun rights expert David Kopel explains clearly that Barack Obama is easily the most anti-gun President in US history.
In his 2004 Senate campaign, Barack Obama said he would like to ban concealed carry permits. Now that Obama is President, Gunsmokes concealed carry courses are selling out class after class (50 people in each) in addition to their 3-day pistol classes, which are already sold out through June.
People are petrified afraid for their rights that Obama is going to attack. And while Obama says he doesnt support banning guns, a 500% tax would effectively be a financial ban on both guns and ammunition. I think the lefts goal is that in 50 or 100 years, there are people who dont even know that they could have bought guns or ammunition.
Colorado is several months behind in processing concealed carry permits because of demand. Last month, it was reported that Florida is buried under a backlog of 95,000 applications for concealed-weapons permits and it needs to hire a lot more people to handle the paperwork. In Georgia, firearm permits were up 79% in 2008 over 2007. In Oklahoma, the number is around 90%. In Ohio, the number of concealed carry licenses issued in the 4th quarter of 2008 was 111% higher than the 4th quarter of 2007.
Wyatts concealed carry classes emphasize the basics of gun use, safety, and the law, but Its Politics 101 as well, trying to make sure people understand not only their rights regarding guns but also the Constitution and their rights and responsibilities as American citizens. He tries to make sure people are conscious of the boiling the frog approach by government to infringing on our rights, and gun rights in particular, just slowly enough that the average person might not notice. Just be prepared, he warns, for the return of government saying Were not banning all guns just these guns. And thats part of the reason that theres so much demand for these guns, which is to say just about every type of gun you can imagine.
Since the election, the shares of gunmaker Smith & Wesson have more than doubled, with competitor Rugers shares up nearly as much. Two weeks ago a large gun and ammunition manufacturer, Olin Corp. raised its earnings guidance, anticipating a record quarterly profit for its Winchester ammunition division. The American public is speaking, and theyre saying in no uncertain terms that they dont believe President Obamas claims to support gun rights since his history says something very different.
Rich Wyatts position is typically none too subtle: Barack Obama is right about one thing. We are clinging to God and our guns, and I defy him to try to take either one from us.
As for me, after a day of thinking about the Obama administration and guns, I bought my local WalMarts last box of .38 caliber ammunition.
NO, I always keep plenty on hand .... ^_^
Dont answer that
No.
If I did have any, it would be an investment.
I got 9 mm ammo for my son for Christmas. Tried to buy more this weekend, couldn’t find any in my small city.
My stimulus plan: Going to Black Wing Shooting Center (Delaware, OH) to buy a Springfield XD40 and a Mossberg 500. Gonna make it a family event.
My suggestion is to stock up on cases of Spam.
No, I am stockpiling.
There is a difference.
I practice also.
Go the the NRA web site - they’re offering a FREE one year membership. We need to show power in numbers!
Here's my tip of the month: there is still a great pistol and ammo deal out there waiting for you. If you have waited too long to arm up, or are on a tight budget, look at the excellent milsurp CZ-52 pistol and 7.62X25 Tokarev ammo.
You can get a CZ-52 for about $200 at any gun show or at many gun stores. The ammo can be had for as low as 11 cents a round in any quantity you want. Extra mags are from $12 to $20 each.
The milsurp ammo is full metal jacket, firing an 85gr bullet at 1,600fps. These will go through car doors, kevlar helmets, kevlar vests etc like an icepick through butter. OTOH, they will also go through one bad guy and maybe hit a good guy behind him.
However, you can buy hollowpoints ("Wolf Gold" with brass shells) for about $19/50, or half the price of comparable 9mm JHPs. My test "Wolf Gold" JHP ammo expanded to .60 caliber, the same as my test 9mm JHPs.
So for $400, you could buy a CZ-52, 1,500 rounds of assorted ammo, and a few extra mags. OR, you could buy about 2/3s of a "brand name" pistol, and no ammo.
It's just a thought. This is a great bargain. The ammo is cheap and plentiful at all of the internet catalog sites. Don't wait, the libtards will soon slam the door on foreign gun and ammo imports, and the prices will go way up.
Another benefit of this pistol is that it is very accurate, with very fine sights. WIth this flat-shooting ammo, you can hit at 100 yards with ease. Downsides are brittle firing pins (buy a spare, and don't dry fire) and a decocking function that you should not trust. Just lower the SA hammer like a 1911. The safety works like a 1911, so if you are used to 1911s, it will be very easy to use the CZ-52
Or 22 ammo to shoot food with...
Think of it as
“Post-Free America currency”.
...which is why my daughters and wife will take station with their weopons, knowing it's to the death.
Someone estimated that for any protracted El Cruncho lasting a year or three, someone trying to hunt to support his family (assuming the small and medium-sized game didn’t disappear all at once) would need to lay in about 3000 rounds of each type of ammo he used, in the pre-crisis season of plenty.
No, but I wish all you guys would quit hoarding it so I can lay in some more — for responsible use of course. /sarc
The same thing is going on with reloading supplies. Primers are out or are being rationed (100 primers per person). Bullets are in limited supply and higher prices. Powder is out or in very limited supply.
I saw a guy at asking at the counter about a powder he used. None in stock. How about a different powder. Nope. Then he named several more powders. The seller had one pound of one of them. He started putting it in the buyers bag. The buyer said, “How much is it? — uh, forget that — just put it in the bag and ring it up.”
I have a CZ 52 myself, it’s a great little weapon, though I would think it more for home defense than concealed, as it is a little on the bulkier side. The recoil is negligible and the report and muzzle flash will make someone think twice if you don’t hit them.
gun ping
You're no good dead.
Might just as well let them take your stuff (but not your kids for "Americorps"), and go tell it on the mountain that the raids have begun.
Then, you go to your pre-arranged SHTF rally point, someone lets you borrow an "extra" that they have, and you organize resistance.
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